This is police brutality

[Steelworth]

I wonder when Biden's gonna say "If I could adopt a son (since my real one is a no-good shitbag), he'd look just like George"?

 

[Steelworth]

****'s getting ugly:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At the Target in Minneapolis that was being looted tonight during the BLM riot, a woman in a wheelchair was attacked. <a href="https://t.co/JxsXTB30xI">pic.twitter.com/JxsXTB30xI</a></p>— Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1265860082408943616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Steelmann]

This has nothing to do with race IMHO. Cops do the same stuff to white people but nobody cares. I saw a video from a few years ago where a guy crashes his car. I assume he was running from the police. He climbs out of his car (that has flipped) and the cop just shoots him. He isn't armed and the cop doesn't even warn him. He isn't running. He's just climbing out of his car. To this day the cop hasn't been prosecuted. But the guy he shot was white. So no protest, marches, white lives matter no nothing.

Also as far as "This needs to stop". It's never going to stop. Just like medical malpractice is never going to stop. Murder is never going to stop. Why do people think that mistakes aren't going to be made by guys that are full of adrenalin, chasing people, shooting at people ETC...? It happens to fully trained doctors who receive some of the best education in the world along with years of certification. It is never going to end because it involves people.

I put down "this needs to stop"in my comment. What I really meant is that they have to be held accountable. What needs to stop is the other cops always turning a blind eye. These ******* guys should rot in jail for a long time. Just like I would if I did this to another human. Adrenaline or not. You call that a mistake? Get ******* real. These power tripping ******** roaming the streets are worse than the criminals. Puts his hands in his pockets and leans back nonchalantly as the guy begs for his life. While that other little **** circles around and watches. Sweet.

As I said........no wonder the police of today has no respect from our youth. These videos are absolutely everywhere. The stuff that has not been caught on video that they have gotten away with for decades must be truly staggering. The police force......truly the biggest organized gang in the world.

Question. Are the police Drug tested routinely? Or at all? I would love to know how much steroid use there is. Some of those guys act like roided out animals.

 

[steeltruckin]

I wonder when Biden's gonna say "If I could adopt a son (since my real one is a no-good shitbag), he'd look just like George"?

Glad this dead man can entertain you, immature coward.

 

[Steelworth]

Glad this dead man can entertain you, immature coward.

If you actually looked at my posts in this thread, you'd know I was disgusted by what happened to this poor man. I think the cop who drove his ******* leg into the man's neck should be publically hung (if it were up to me). That said;

What politicians do (capitalize on politicising a tragedy) is par for the course, and I was simply ******** on Biden for being a politician who does that sort of nonsense. The post had nothing to do with the man, it had everything to do with our corrupt politicians who try to score political points when something tragic like this happens.

So **** you for making assumptions.

 

[Booted]

****'s getting ugly:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At the Target in Minneapolis that was being looted tonight during the BLM riot, a woman in a wheelchair was attacked. <a href="https://t.co/JxsXTB30xI">pic.twitter.com/JxsXTB30xI</a></p>— Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1265860082408943616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The lady in the wheelchair is ramming people, kicking at them and wielding a big knife. Is she trying to stop looters? Not knowing all the details, the lady needed to be restrained.

Edit: reading that guy's twitter, The lady was there trying to stop the looting. Not too smart to go up against 100s of crazed animals with a knife. She's lucky she wasn't killed. I was disgusted by all the videos on his page.

 

[Tibs]

After weeks of crazed right-wingers screaming at cops and parading around armed to the teeth while protesting covid shutdown measures, I am sure we're all cool with protestors showing up armed at the Minneapolis rallies, correct?


<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All of a sudden Fox News doesn't think it's a good idea for protesters to be armed, how weird <a href="https://t.co/S0gFLloE8D">pic.twitter.com/S0gFLloE8D</a></p>— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) <a href="https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1265824523837980673?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

 

[Tibs]

This has nothing to do with race

Golly, how outraged we were by Colin Kaepernick peacefully taking a knee to bring light to such injustice. Kaepernick was attacked mercilessly for observing a moment of silence. And the cycle of police violence against minorities continues unabated. Shocking, I tell you, to see cities like St. Louis and Minneapolis up in flames.

By no means should you look into the background of the cop who murdered George Floyd. You won't like what you see. The Make Whites Great Again hat, the pictures posted from Trump rallies, et al. Nah, this isn't about race. It never is, is it?

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Listen to this young man, listen. Wise beyond his years. Speaking truth, 100%. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/minneapolisriots?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#minneapolisriots</a> <a href="https://t.co/tqRN1aondj">pic.twitter.com/tqRN1aondj</a></p>— Cody Reese (@CodyReese_) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyReese_/status/1265933297281929216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

 

[CharlesDavenport]

After weeks of crazed right-wingers screaming at cops and parading around armed to the teeth while protesting covid shutdown measures, I am sure we're all cool with protestors showing up armed at the Minneapolis rallies, correct?

Shocking, no fact check before regurgitating some bullshit.

Sean Hannity criticized armed protesters who demonstrated against Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's stay-at-home orders last week outside Michigan's Capitol building, saying they were not helping their cause.

"I'm the number one supporter [on] radio and television, that I know of, [of the] First Amendment and the Second Amendment. Now, no one is a bigger defendant of the Second Amendment than yours truly," Hannity said Monday night on his televison program.

"Everyone has the right to protest, protect themselves and try to get the country open," the host said as video rolled of Thursday's protest in Lansing. "This, with the militia look here, and these long guns, uh... no. Show of force is dangerous. That puts our police at risk. And by the way, your message will never be heard, whoever you people are."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/sean-hannity-message-to-armed-michigan-protesters

For the record, these BLM things are riots, not peaceful protests.

 

[hamster]

After weeks of crazed right-wingers screaming at cops and parading around armed to the teeth while protesting covid shutdown measures, I am sure we're all cool with protestors showing up armed at the Minneapolis rallies, correct?

When Americans, who protest unconstitutional government overreach, are now referred to as crazy, we have entered a dangerous time in this country.


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[Tibs]

When Americans, who protest unconstitutional government overreach, are now referred to as crazy, we have entered a dangerous time in this country.

Terrible injustice, you were asked to wear a mask in public and stay at home for a few weeks while a worldwide pandemic was raging out of control. Grab your automatic weapons and march to the mayor's office, hang an effigy of the governor! Unconstitutional government overreach, my ***.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Terrible injustice, you were asked to wear a mask in public and stay at home for a few weeks while a worldwide pandemic was raging out of control. Grab your automatic weapons and march to the mayor's office, hang an effigy of the governor! Unconstitutional government overreach, my ***.

We were forced, not asked. Of course it's Constitutional overreach.

 

[hamster]

Terrible injustice, you were asked to wear a mask in public and stay at home for a few weeks while a worldwide pandemic was raging out of control. Grab your automatic weapons and march to the mayor's office, hang an effigy of the governor! Unconstitutional government overreach, my ***.

Stop with the Karen emotional response. The governor didn't ask. She ordered. She ordered places to lockdown, even where the pandemic wasn't raging out of control. She ordered the shutdown of businesses. It wasn't a few weeks, it was months. Never before happened in the history of our country. First time in history where we have quarantined the healthy. This wasn't a curfew, it was an unconsitutional violation of our rights.

We will look back on this as a shameful period in American history.

 

[Tibs]

After the riots you’ll still be able to find work boots. Just like Ferguson.

I know you won't be able to find Air Jordan's, a rap CD or a TV any time soon.

Nice to know we have some good 'ol boy racists on the board. Flying the confederate flag high this morning, gents? Credit to you, at least you flaunt your racism, out in the open. Makes it easier to know what we're dealing with around here. By all means, carry on...

 

[Booted]

Terrible injustice, you were asked to wear a mask in public and stay at home for a few weeks while a worldwide pandemic was raging out of control. Grab your automatic weapons and march to the mayor's office, hang an effigy of the governor! Unconstitutional government overreach, my ***.

Yup we were asked to wear masks. That all it was.

 

[Tibs]

We will look back on this as a shameful period in American history.

Indeed, a period that began with the inauguration on January 20, 2017. It's been all downhill from there.

 

[Tibs]

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Very relevant MLK quote <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/minneapolisriots?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#minneapolisriots</a> <a href="https://t.co/NEhMfWTHsI">pic.twitter.com/NEhMfWTHsI</a></p>— Langston (@langisaac64) <a href="https://twitter.com/langisaac64/status/1265937761581891586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

 

[NCSteelerfan]

I suspect CD was talking about interracial crimes. The data are tough to interpret accurately in large part because the FBI data for some reason combines Hispanics and whites as "offenders" when listing murders of blacks, so very tough to determine how many offenders guilty of murdering a black were actually white, rather than Hispanic. Also, the FBI data for some reason details only incidents of one victim, one offender. Not sure why.

Anyway, as of 2016, the latest report I've found, there were a total of 1,049 interracial murders. Excluding the "race unknown" for either victim or the offender, that leaves 869 interracial murders, again where Hispanics are deemed white in the calculation, apparently under the George Zimmerman rule.

Of those 869 interracial murders, 533 involved a black killing a white and 243 involved a white killing a black. Therefore, blacks account for 66% (570 out of 869) such murders, whites 34% (299 out of 869), once again where white includes Hispanic as an offender.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

Those are the raw numbers, but if we convert to proportionate share of the population, the data are worse as to African-American interracial offenders in homicides. Much, much worse.

Whites are 73% of the population, blacks 13% where the term white includes Hispanics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race

Therefore, to convert the raw numbers to per capita involves the following:

0.13 x 869 = 113 expected homicides, African-American killing other race.
0.73 x 869 = 634 expected homicides, whites killing other race.

So instead of 113 homicides for the African-American population, the number is 533, or 470% of the expected result. Using the same numbers for whites, the results show just 38% (0.38) of the expected homicides. The 81% number is not accurate in terms of the gross numbers but is close to the facts for interracial crime.



Two points. The background information matters in certain cases with claims of self-defense by the assailant or suspicion of criminal activity by the person who winds up getting injured or killed. If it turns out the victim had a history of participating in the "knock-out game" then a claim of self-defense makes a lot more sense than if the victim was a 48-year old pastor. If the victim had a history of being a thief, than that plays a role in determining motive or intent when checking out possible theft.

I know you think a video is it, the be-all and end-all, but it is just evidence. The best evidence around, almost certainly, but the video does not show intent, or motive, or thought process, or the reasons why things were what they were when the camera came on. So adding other evidence to the story makes perfect sense, particularly where a claim is made (Michael Brown) that the dead suspect was a sweet guy, not violent, loved people, would never attack a cop, etc. - and where a video shows that guy roughing up a store owner when stealing just minutes earlier.

Right? Or should we not disparage the wonderful character of Michael Brown and just string up the cop??



Not true unless the police witness the offense. If you or I are involved in some physical altercation and a guy winds up dead, the police don't simply "arrest us" cuz a guy is dead. They get statements, evidence, get a warrant issued by a judge and then arrest us.

Same is true for a cop. The court needs to issue a warrant after the state makes out the charges. If the police **** up a warrant and the warrant is not valid, guess what? Evidence seized as a result of a bad warrant goes buh-bye.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

Here's the link to the most recent data from the FBI from 2018. They haven't update for 2019 yet. As Hispanic is an ethnicity and not a race it was included in both black and white perpetrators, not just the white ones. There are black hispanics. The point I was making is that in total numbers whites kill more whites and blacks kill more blacks. Vaders original comment made it seem like there was some sort of melee on whites from blacks. Now, this is my assumption, but I'm going to say quite a bit of those are probably drug/gang involved on BOTH sides and not just a racial driven thing.

Yes, I get the background information matters in cases as it can show patterns of behavior. That should ring true for the cop putting his knee on the neck of Floyd and the over zealous idiots with the Arbery case, and yet, the comments I saw focused on Arbery's past in the other thread, but not the yokels that chased him and ultimately murdered him. Why?

As you don't know me and what I absolutely believe you are wrong about the video being the end all be all. Michael Brown? Did I bring him up as an example? That video was in no way definitive. Hell, even the snippet they had from the Raleigh cops last year that seemed to show a group of cops beating a black guy down was incorrect. I didn't "jump" to conclusions on that one as again it was a snippet of what happened and later the whole video showed a disturbed individual attacking the cops and showed the whole pic justifying the ends. Seems to me as more video is coming out on both of these cases it's not looking good for the perps as the guy video taping the Arbery incident was found to be involved and arrested because the rest of the video showed they chased him for at least 4 minutes blocking his escape whenever he tried to get away. There is a video from a business in the area of the Floyd arrest that shows the beginning of him being led out of his car and being detained. No resisting was shown in that video, but he did look pretty annoyed and looked like he was letting it be known. What's missing is what happened after that part and up to officer ******** holding him down with his knee on his neck.

So now the police have to witness the offense to make an arrest and wait for a warrant in all cases? Was there not 3 other cops standing there and a crowd of people who witnessed the event? And if they have to wait for a warrant, why isn't one issued like right now. Seems they have a shitload of witnesses and 3 other cops that were right there.

 

[hamster]

Indeed, a period that began with the inauguration on January 20, 2017. It's been all downhill from there.

The real shameful period started far before the election, when the Obama Admin corrupted the FBI, DOJ, and FISA courts. Indictments on the way.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Very relevant MLK quote <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/minneapolisriots?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#minneapolisriots</a> <a href="https://t.co/NEhMfWTHsI">pic.twitter.com/NEhMfWTHsI</a></p>— Langston (@langisaac64) <a href="https://twitter.com/langisaac64/status/1265937761581891586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Many of the shops destroyed along this stretch of Lake Street are immigrant-owned businesses — many of which were already struggling during the pandemic. “Now it’s worse,” said Roberto Hernandez, who stood guard outside his nutrition store for 5 hours to protect it from looters.</p>— Liz Sawyer (@ByLizSawyer) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByLizSawyer/status/1265890471869636608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The language of the unheard in this case is that the rioters are a bunch of stupid criminal ********.

 

[thesteelcity]

Tibs, you are posting lies about this cop to feed your agenda. He was not at a Trump rally and it's not him wearing that hat. It's some guy from Tampa Bay. Research before you post lies, please. This is not about Trump or Republicans. This is about police officers that over-stepped their bounds and killed a man with no regard for his life.

https://www.facebook.com/DavidJHarrisJr/videos/278151180234400/

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Tibs, you are posting lies about this cop to feed your agenda. He was not at a Trump rally and it's not him wearing that hat. It's some guy from Tampa Bay. Research before you post lies, please. This is not about Trump or Republicans. This is about police officers that over-stepped their bounds and killed a man with no regard for his life.

https://www.facebook.com/DavidJHarrisJr/videos/278151180234400/

He's gotten really sloppy. Just reposting crap.

 

[SCSteeler4life]

He's gotten really sloppy. Just reposting crap.

He doesn't care, his TDS is so bad.

 

[thesteelcity]

Indeed, a period that began with the inauguration on January 20, 2017. It's been all downhill from there.

don't you mean when the Dems have lost their heads and have tried EVERYDAY to get Donald Trump out of the WH? EVERY. DAY. He's been ridiculed, harassed, have MANY lies told about him, any dirt that will stick to the wall, went after his family(son, wife, daughters, sons) and will go after him again because of this "pandemic". I have never been a big Trump fan, but the **** he has put up with from the Left for three years, I can empathize with him. I empathize with Barack Obama, for what he had to endure. How can you do your job when so many are sabotaging you everyday? He's far from perfect, but damn, the hate for him is unprecendented.

 

[Supersteeler]

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheView?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheView</a> here’s the murdering cop next to the corrupt union leader at the <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realDonaldTrump</a> rally in Mpls. Tell me they don’t feel emboldened. Tell me they don’t feel righteous. <a href="https://t.co/7TVodnobkY">pic.twitter.com/7TVodnobkY</a></p>— Zelenograd (@PanCisMan) <a href="https://twitter.com/PanCisMan/status/1265661908545306625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Man this killing has you super excited and has kicked your Trump mania into overdrive. You haven't been this active and energized on the site for months. I wonder if that says something about your current state of mind and well being?