Jarvis was sec king he's a no miss player. Just like all of tomlins loves
Tomlin....he's driving a proud organization straight in to the ground.
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Jarvis was sec king he's a no miss player. Just like all of tomlins loves
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I see why he was so excited over Hood, Worilds, and Bruce Davis, too.
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Yea, I remember him saying that Hood had no holes right after he drafted him. I was floored. Hell almost everyone knew he was not a 3-4 DE.
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Tomlin is never wrong. You are not allowed to use your own eyes to see that a player is completely ill equipped for a 3-4 defense. By definition, if the steelers drafted a player, he was the best choice.
Just look at what a huge lift Dri Archer was today. 1 reception for 1 yard.
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Archer was really a 4th rounder so he doesn't count. Even though I thought he was un-coverable and could create huge mismatches against anyone. I guess these real NFL defenses aren't that easy to beat when all you have is speed?
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But Dri opened the field up for Brown today.
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I saw Troy fly into a couple of plays....after they were over. I love #43, but man put a fork in him. He would need to get 2 Int's next week to restore my faith in him at this point. Age has finally caught up with him. Last year he had lost a step, this year he has lost his game.
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Our first round stud pass rusher gets injured and is replaced by a journeyman from Buffalo and an old man off his couch and it's an upgrade. That speaks volumes.
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those ******* don't DARE show up these weeks. they only dust off old posts calling for his ousting after a W. lose? crickets
even if you have defended him, there's no getting past the same old, same old let down to the teams they should beat year after year. This past game is a glaring body of work that we have come to expect. No true Steeler fan should sit back and feel everything is A-OK. It's not. It's miles from it. At times, we are decent, but when we are bad, they make the nobodies look like world beaters. We lost to Terrell Pryer last year. Where is he at now? Tim Tebow? I could go on. . .
The problem is there doesn't seem to be much pride in this organization. The vast majority of the team seems to just be collecting a paycheck. 3 years of losing to the bottom feeders of the league and the players don't seem to give a ****; I see no fire in the defense at all. I can't imagine getting embarrased as often as this group does and not geting pissed off. Maybe sense of entitlement has finally overtaken personal pride??? Lack of talent is one thing, but the lack of discipline and basic football fundamentals is inexcusable. That shows laziness not inability. I can't remember the last time I saw a Steelers defense miss so many tackles and blow so many assignments.
Ok. Let's say we fire the head coach now. Right? Where exactly do you think this organization will go when "you" do find a replacement mid-stream?
I say this because I don't see Coach Tomlin running from this loss, or any other, without owning it. As it has been stated previously, a head coach - a good head coach, does not micro-manage. He manages his managers. So, to be brutally honest - the only way the naysayers will be happy is if the entire coaching staff is fired and parts of the FO too.
Is this a good assessment???
I say this because I don't see Coach Tomlin running from this loss, or any other, without owning it. As it has been stated previously, a head coach - a good head coach, does not micro-manage. He manages his managers. So, to be brutally honest - the only way the naysayers will be happy is if the entire coaching staff is fired and parts of the FO too.
Is this a good assessment???
I'm okay with it, but like I said elsewhere, it ain't gonna happen so I don't waste a lot of time worrying about it. Best we can hope for is that LeBeau "retires" after this season. Toddster maybe if someone offers him a HC gig. Coach Cool Shades isn't going anywhere until he decides he wants to go. I've got a dollar on the table that says Cool Shades is still the Steelers head coach on Sept. 29, 2019.
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I'm not there yet but this is the last year I let Mr Tomlin have before I show him the door if I was the teams owner.
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So, I take it your solution is to NEVER fire the coach. Ever. After all, how could a coach be replaced?
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You just need to be more patient with his press conferences.
This cannot be underscored enough. It just CAN'T.
Tomlin has been the head coach for more than 7 years. The average NFL career is less than 4 years. He has had 7 drafts, with more than 50 draft picks and who knows how many free agents, to make the Steelers his team.
He has done so, with selections like Ziggy Hood, Lawrence Timmons, Jarvis Jones, Marcus Gilbert, Mike Adams, Ryan McBean, Matt Spaeth, Ryan Mundy, Dennis Dixon, Tony Hills, Bruce Davis, Ra'shon Harris, Frank Summers, Joe Burnett, Jason Worilds, Chris Scott, Crezdon Butler, Chris Rainey, David Paulsen, Dri Archer, Landry Jones, Terrance Hawthorne, and zero DB's of any worth. His 1st round successes - Decastro, Pouncey - were picks that were so obvious that even Tomlin could not @#$% them up.
His best players as of January 1, 2007: Ben Roethlisberger, Troy Polamalu, Hines Ward, Heath Miller, Willie Parker, Santonio Holmes, James Farrior, Ike Taylor.
His best players as of January 1, 2014: Ben Roethlisberger, Heath Miller, Antonio Brown, Le'Veon Bell, Ike Taylor, David Decastro, Maurkice Pouncey, Craig Heyward, Troy Polamalu.
The 1st group has 3 likely HOF players.
The 2nd group has 2 remaining from that HOF core, plus two very good skill position players and some good players. No great players. No future HOF players. Just really good and good, to go along with the mediocre.
Look what Noll and Cowher did when they came to the Steelers - they turned over the roster, and added game-changers, future HOF guys. Look what Tomlin has done - relied on the players his predecessor obtained, and filled in with some good players, but no great players.
For both Noll and Cowher, as they replaced the predecessor's players and made the teams their own, the teams got better.
For Tomlin, as he replaces Cowher's players with his own, the team has become worse - much, much, much worse.
Unfortunately, like Captain Smith, I think that Tomlin will go down with the Titanic he has made the Steelers. We have some tough years ahead at this rate.
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Everyone knows the only responsibility a HC has is to give press conferences. He gave a PC so he did his job.
Its pretty bad when a deceased RB is one of you best players ...Craig Heyward has been gone since 2006
I would suspect he meant Cam, his son.
well good golly miss molly I would never have thought that...
No, it's not a good assessment.
First, the team is not going to fire Tomlin mid-season.
Second, if the team sleepwalks through another undisciplined, flaccid, 8-8 season or something along those lines, with this candy-*** schedule, then Tomlin needs to go - before the 2015 draft.
Third, the new coach will make decisions on the staff. That is part of the new coach's responsibility. If the new coach wants to keep certain coaches, he will.
Fourth, the new coach will be responsible for the team he puts on the field. Chip Kelly has made the Eagles a fast-paced, no-huddle offense, one that looks to wear down defenses in large part simply by the pace of the game. Whatever you may think of his approach - good, bad or indifferent - it is his approach, and his team.
Instead of that, right now, Tomlin is adding 4-3 defensive players to the Steelers, while Lebeau runs a 3-4. He therefore winds up with no nose tackle, OLB'ers that cannot rush the passer, and CB's that are simply awful. This just cannot go on any more.
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