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Tomlin rips O line

while we dump the blame on Tomlin, how much must also be given to Colbert? He was the GM and helped assemble this travesty.

I'd hope Omar (not the idiot who posts here and brings down the board IQ level) would have more desire to improve the team overall.
 
madinsomniac said:
Yes. I saw a similar thing about a month ago. Its definitely a concept that requires high technical attention and quick decision making… that first strike is super important and knowing when to fake it to get the dl to overcommit…

I don’t think the average fan realizes how different this is.. its like the changes in 2008… drastic and some of our guys might not be capable
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Yeah, I didn't realize what a revamp system this is. Watching the film I just see guys lunging a lot and bad hand placement. When I saw what Meyers wants to do it started to make sense. They are just uncomfortable with this system and technique. It's something that is unique in the sense you are using both your hands separately to punch, you pre-read your assignment based on how the defense aligns (not back pedal and see how the defense reacts) and are usually the aggressor making first contact. (again not backpedaling and trying to maintain poition)

I like the concept but this might take an entire season for these guys to master. Maybe the thought process is start Trubisky who seems to have the best combo of pocket awareness and ability to evade defenders and when the line starts to gel then put Pickett in so he doesn't get murdered.
 
Meyer is not a good OLine coach, check the rankings of his previous lines , ooouch
 
No Ping Pong for Green ..... this week

I hope we find some decent guys from other teams cuts. If we just find a big body to get in the way it would probably be better than Green. What we should do is run 2 TEs or an I formation and leave the FB or extra TE in to help with pass pro. It would also help Najee out
 
jitter77 said:
I hope we find some decent guys from other teams cuts. If we just find a big body to get in the way it would probably be better than Green. What we should do is run 2 TEs ...
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How much would that be if it costs $25 per TE?

Asking for a friend.
 
If only there was someone in charge who the buck stopped with.
 
Wolf44 said:
Kendrick Green is the highest drafted OlIne pick in the last 10 years for the Steelers. Let that sink in.
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It’s not a good thing when Chuks is your best lineman.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
It’s not a good thing when Chuks is your best lineman.
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Djfan said:
It's impossible to not put these problems on leadership decisions, really.
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Now that BEN's gone,............... you are correct.! (sarcasm on ben)


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Steeltime said:
2021 draft:

Creed Humphrey at 55
Quinn Meinerz or Ben Cleveland at 87

Humphrey at C, Meinerz or Cleveland at LG.

It really is that simple.

And that does not even take into account Supe's favorite player from the 2021 draft, OG Trey Smith. A 7th round pick, Smith starts for the Chiefs at RG. Rumor has it they have a decent offensive line with two guys (Humphrey and Smith) that the Steelers passed on repeatedly for "splash players."
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I'm pretty sure durring his rookie season Creed Humphry rated as best center in football, not just rookies. I'm not sure how he ended the season VS his rating but I'm sure it was pretty high and higher than our rookie strting center at the time.

I know we can't go back in time but dang........................


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Steeltime said:
And that does not even take into account Supe's favorite player from the 2021 draft, OG Trey Smith. A 7th round pick, Smith starts for the Chiefs at RG. Rumor has it they have a decent offensive line with two guys (Humphrey and Smith) that the Steelers passed on repeatedly for "splash players."
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Let me be clear, I like Harris and Freiermuth as players. However, RB and TE are arguably the two least valuable positions in football outside of special teams. It's not an exact measurement of value, but if you look at the franchise tag rates K/P is at the bottom followed by RB and TE. I personally would've preferred the combination of Humphrey/Freiermuth because RBs aren't great value in the first round for a team built like the Steelers. It defeats the purpose to invest in a back if you don't have a strong line in front of them.

I know Smith fell because of health concerns, but he was 1st/2nd round talent. I sorta understand waiting until Day 3, but I take him 10 out of 10 times over Dan Moore, Buddy Johnson, Isaiahh Loudermilk, and Quincy Roche.

The OL problem appears two fold. It's an organizational philosophy right now and that really comes down to the fact the head coach doesn't value offensive line play. The second is whoever scouts/evaluates offensive linemen needs replaced.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
Let me be clear, I like Harris and Freiermuth as players. However, RB and TE are arguably the two least valuable positions in football outside of special teams. It's not an exact measurement of value, but if you look at the franchise tag rates K/P is at the bottom followed by RB and TE. I personally would've preferred the combination of Humphrey/Freiermuth because RBs aren't great value in the first round for a team built like the Steelers. It defeats the purpose to invest in a back if you don't have a strong line in front of them.

I know Smith fell because of health concerns, but he was 1st/2nd round talent. I sorta understand waiting until Day 3, but I take him 10 out of 10 times over Dan Moore, Buddy Johnson, Isaiahh Loudermilk, and Quincy Roche.

The OL problem appears two fold. It's an organizational philosophy right now and that really comes down to the fact the head coach doesn't value offensive line play. The second is whoever scouts/evaluates offensive linemen needs replaced.
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Excellent post SteelerFan448, thanks for all you great ones along the way.

Picket in the 1st I can understand, they feel like he is the man and I'd say they know him better than any other QB and better than any other team.

As for CREED, I couldn't believe they didn't take him, virtually a lock up center for 10-15 years. Best in the league talent.

The trenches are where it is won or lost, as you stated a top RB needs a line, QB needs a line, everything is dedicated of the line play.!!!


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Drink IRON City said:
Excellent post SteelerFan448, thanks for all you great ones along the way.

Picket in the 1st I can understand, they feel like he is the man and I'd say they know him better than any other QB and better than any other team.

As for CREED, I couldn't believe they didn't take him, virtually a lock up center for 10-15 years. Best in the league talent.

The trenches are where it is won or lost, as you stated a top RB needs a line, QB needs a line, everything is dedicated of the line play.!!!


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We used to be a team that valued having a great center, those were the days!

In all situations a great OL can make an average RB (any of those you have in the roster) shine as there are OBVIOUS lanes to run through.

The greatest RBs in history couldn’t make a crappy OL create a hole though.

Funny thing is a great OL also allows a QB time to throw…with Cool Shades inability to adjust I don’t think he will ever figure out that OL>RB cuz RBs are that shiny new toy and he loves him some pedigree.

I really like Najee, but he was Obviously the wrong pick
 
IF Green doesnt improve in practice increase Dotson reps and then each day have them go hard for the starting LG job, we should as well add a vet LT as I dont want to see Heag even in emergency at LT. he is a swing but at worst case say Moore is banged up or regressing Flip Chukes to LT and Heag at RT worst case.
 
Superman said:
while we dump the blame on Tomlin, how much must also be given to Colbert? He was the GM and helped assemble this travesty.

I'd hope Omar (not the idiot who posts here and brings down the board IQ level) would have more desire to improve the team overall.
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When I take a DUMP I don't think singular,... I think plural as in Tombert................


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BLITZ said:
I love Freiermuth but Creed H should have been the pick
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Using the food analogy...Thats like picking something tasty over something that's better for your overall health.
 
stillerfaninfl said:
I'd like to see Le glue get some more reps with first team.

Can Hass play nothing but center? Just curious.
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Leglue helped instantly when he took over starter those few games, maybe there is majic in the Le'glue................

ALL for it


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Steelr4evr said:
All we can do is hope for the best. Maybe they can pick up someone early on.
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How can the line be worse as some are suggesting? Whom did we lose to make the line worse? Wouldn't this group at least grow in experience and strength? I don't understand how with a year together they would be worse.
 
This is totally on the coaching. Absolutely no reason this unit should be playing this poorly at this stage it should be sorted out by now. They hired another journeyman o-line coach one fired with chargers, fired with panthers, one who couldn’t develop young talent… should we really be surprise?? The only ones who seemed surprised is the Steeler “brain trust” if you want to call it that. this is on Canada and tomlin a total repeat of last year when the line coach quit in the middle of the season. Wasn’t until months later klemm stated he quit because of canada. this team has talent, they had a gm that would go get them talent, these o-lineman are the guys they wanted… this is total *****! fact is these guys are all good athletes there is no excuse for this hot steaming pile we are calling an o-line.
 
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