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Tomlin says Pickins will play against the Bengals

TDX27 said:
If Pickens pulls any antic in this game (taking plays off, taunting someone, etc.), I'd sit him for the rest of the year without pay. I'd let him know that going into the game and see if he can control himself. My guess is he would still screw up.
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As much as I agree with the premise, I don't believe it's possible under the current CBA.
 
Steelr4evr said:
We can ***** about AB the person all we want, he's a douchebag. But AB the player busted his *** and was well on his way to smashing all of the receiving records before his cheese went off the cracker.


The man was elite. I wish the person had matched the player.
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I can't remember a guy who worked harder on his craft. He made his way from a sixth-round nobody out of the MAC to one of the best wide receivers in the world. At 5-foot-10. That didn't happen by accident. Consistently among the leaders in not only yards and touchdowns, but also things like catch percentage, drop rate, and contested catches. Was there ever any question that AB was going to come down with the ball in a big situation?

Now the Steelers have lazy divas regularly running the wrong routes, or dropping routine passes, or standing around not finishing blocks or allowing the opposition to return fumbles in the other direction. It sucks to watch.
 
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TDX27 said:
If Pickens pulls any antic in this game (taking plays off, taunting someone, etc.), I'd sit him for the rest of the year without pay. I'd let him know that going into the game and see if he can control himself. My guess is he would still screw up.
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That would be very difficult to not pay him. It wouldn't hold up without serious legal issues causing it
 
Interesting take here by Clark, he got to the point he's saying Mikey must go and I have to give him credit for that. Where I don't agree with him(I can also have an opinion and not play...F U George Pickens) is:

1. Tomlin is a great coach...that's laughable to anyone who is honest with themselves and has been paying attention.

2. He will succeed somewhere else. He won't....and the reason why is because the very things Clark outlines in his rant here are the very things that will hold him back somewhere else. Allowing the players "to be themselves" That's not going to work with this generation. And If Mike is as smart as they claim, and can change why has he not seen this going all the way back to AB and adjusted? Please...take that crap somewhere else Ryan. I get it you want to say he needs to go(because you felt the fan pulse trending that way) yet you still got to kiss up because he's your buddy..it's all good.

I don't care how many teams line up for the Mike Tomlin buffet of B.S. YOU CAN HAVE HIM! I've seen enough...and I'm old now...I don't want to watch anymore of this crap before I go. God... let me at least see one more AFCCG with us in it before I push up daisies.

Here is my biggest fear, and that is that Pickett improves, Tomlin doesn't leave and we get caught in another 4 to 5 year loop of almost looking like a contender yet it will all be the same ol' smoke and mirrors. Much like an abused wife after getting beat up then later taken to dinner and getting loved on by the abusive husband saying" See he really loves me..he really is a good guy." Many will defend Tomlin just like that. Dear God...help us.

 
Gildong Sack said:
Interesting take here by Clark, he got to the point he's saying Mikey must go and I have to give him credit for that. Where I don't agree with him(I can also have an opinion and not play...F U George Pickens) is:

1. Tomlin is a great coach...that's laughable to anyone who is honest with themselves and has been paying attention.

2. He will succeed somewhere else. He won't....and the reason why is because the very things Clark outlines in his rant here are the very things that will hold him back somewhere else. Allowing the players "to be themselves" That's not going to work with this generation. And If Mike is as smart as they claim, and can change why has he not seen this going all the way back to AB and adjusted? Please...take that crap somewhere else Ryan. I get it you want to say he needs to go(because you felt the fan pulse trending that way) yet you still got to kiss up because he's your buddy..it's all good.

I don't care how many teams line up for the Mike Tomlin buffet of B.S. YOU CAN HAVE HIM! I've seen enough...and I'm old now...I don't want to watch anymore of this crap before I go. God... let me at least see one more AFCCG with us in it before I push up daisies.

Here is my biggest fear, and that is that Pickett improves, Tomlin doesn't leave and we get caught in another 4 to 5 year loop of almost looking like a contender yet it will all be the same ol' smoke and mirrors. Much like an abused wife after getting beat up then later taken to dinner and getting loved on by the abusive husband saying" See he really loves me..he really is a good guy." Many will defend Tomlin just like that. Dear God...help us.

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Tomlin is a good people person, but he wont succeed elsewhere simply because he is not a good football coach. X's and O's, game planning, schemes in general are certainly not his strong point. The only way he will be successful is with strong coordinators that he lets do their job. He cant just hire his buddies and hope for the best
 
jitter77 said:
Tomlin is a good people person, but he wont succeed elsewhere simply because he is not a good football coach. X's and O's, game planning, schemes in general are certainly not his strong point. The only way he will be successful is with strong coordinators that he lets do their job. He cant just hire his buddies and hope for the best
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Unfortunately, that’s what just may happen here. Art 2 may give him the option of staying, provided FO vetts and gives him a couple choices for cordinators. Then letting them do their thing is the questionable part. I don’t think SBWHCMVT can accommodate that.


Salute the nation
 
stillwright said:
That is the problem that Tomlin has done throughout his career. Letting certain players get away with bullshit. I honestly thought he turned the corner after moving on from AB and Bell. Nope. He is now enabling other players but expects different end results.
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Bell and Brown never showed a lack of effort. Brown had a reputation for being the hardest worker in the building. Both guys left it all out there every play as a steeler. I remember when Bell had his helmet ripped off at the goal line and he still got it in the endzone. They had there issues off the field but they were never half assing it and had the highest production in the league for the black and gold.
Pickens and dionte should not be compared to those guys in any way. They have done zero
 
Gildong Sack said:
Interesting take here by Clark, he got to the point he's saying Mikey must go and I have to give him credit for that. Where I don't agree with him(I can also have an opinion and not play...F U George Pickens) is:

1. Tomlin is a great coach...that's laughable to anyone who is honest with themselves and has been paying attention.

2. He will succeed somewhere else. He won't....and the reason why is because the very things Clark outlines in his rant here are the very things that will hold him back somewhere else. Allowing the players "to be themselves" That's not going to work with this generation. And If Mike is as smart as they claim, and can change why has he not seen this going all the way back to AB and adjusted? Please...take that crap somewhere else Ryan. I get it you want to say he needs to go(because you felt the fan pulse trending that way) yet you still got to kiss up because he's your buddy..it's all good.

I don't care how many teams line up for the Mike Tomlin buffet of B.S. YOU CAN HAVE HIM! I've seen enough...and I'm old now...I don't want to watch anymore of this crap before I go. God... let me at least see one more AFCCG with us in it before I push up daisies.

Here is my biggest fear, and that is that Pickett improves, Tomlin doesn't leave and we get caught in another 4 to 5 year loop of almost looking like a contender yet it will all be the same ol' smoke and mirrors. Much like an abused wife after getting beat up then later taken to dinner and getting loved on by the abusive husband saying" See he really loves me..he really is a good guy." Many will defend Tomlin just like that. Dear God...help us.

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I don't really care what the reasoning is, as long as the Steelers reach the conclusion that it's time to part ways with Tomlin. If they lose the last three games and close out 2023 with six straight losses, it's going to be hard for the front office to extend him yet again. If they choose to do so, I am going to spend a lot less time worrying about how the Steelers fare, because as you say, it's going to be the same old shlt as long as MT is the head coach. Except I have a feeling that the same old shlt is about to get a whole lot worse.
 
topseed said:
I don't really care what the reasoning is, as long as the Steelers reach the conclusion that it's time to part ways with Tomlin. If they lose the last three games and close out 2023 with six straight losses, it's going to be hard for the front office to extend him yet again. If they choose to do so, I am going to spend a lot less time worrying about how the Steelers fare, because as you say, it's going to be the same old shlt as long as MT is the head coach. Except I have a feeling that the same old shlt is about to get a whole lot worse.
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Well in the pregame the word was he's not going anywhere..not a chance, unless he decides to leave. Tomlin was right when he said he was going to unleash hell...it's going to be hell for us till he walks away.
 
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Superman said:
first off - Juju was not the headcase many here think he was. He was not the AB level. Sure, he went the beat of his own drummer, but he didnt take plays off that I recall. I remember him as a dude who busted his *** on every play. He had the occasional drop, but by and large seemed to be a good teammate. Yes, the TikTok bullshit was bullshit that shouldn't have been done and I won't disagree with that. But, he was a player on the field and a good teammate. He was also a kid embracing the social media atmosphere and building a brand for himself. As some dipshit said (@Hines57) he shouldn't have ever gotten a car.

and we're all correct on the current trend of today's players. They're coddled and pushed along as their coaches see the talent they bring to the table and look the other way over their bullsh1t. Pickens was an absolute DOG at Georgia. He's lost as many games this season as he did in his time at UGA, I believe. All this is new ground for many of these kids and they're unsure of how to vent their frustrations.

That said, Tomlin is still responsible for the play on the field. He's being lit up - ironically - in social media, with many saying his seat is getting hot. Which we all know isn't true. It's as hot as the leather in Al Gore's favorite recliner when he's at one of his other 31 homes.

Looking at how Tomlin was able to keep a lid on AB for so long, makes you wonder just how much actual stuff is going on in the locker room and off the field.
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bigben said:
Bell and Brown never showed a lack of effort. Brown had a reputation for being the hardest worker in the building. Both guys left it all out there every play as a steeler. I remember when Bell had his helmet ripped off at the goal line and he still got it in the endzone. They had there issues off the field but they were never half assing it and had the highest production in the league for the black and gold.
Pickens and dionte should not be compared to those guys in any way. They have done zero
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I disagree. Player creates an issue that is not best for the TEAM....the HC needs to take care of it.
 
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