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Trubisky or Rudolph?

Even if one believes Rudolph is the better option, putting his immobile self in this week is basically signing his death warrant (particularly in a Canada offense). I think it has to be Trubs this week for no other reason than nmobility.
 
Steel Reign said:
Even if one believes Rudolph is the better option, putting his immobile self in this week is basically signing his death warrant (particularly in a Canada offense). I think it has to be Trubs this week for no other reason than mobility.
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To overcome immobility you have to be able to have a quick release, squeeze it accurately in between tight windows, and be able to feel the pressure in the pocket while maneuvering to avoid incoming traffic.

Meatloaf says 0 out of 3 is ba a a add.
 
slashsteel said:
To overcome immobility you have to be able to have a quick release, squeeze it accurately in between tight windows, and be able to feel the pressure in the pocket while maneuvering to avoid incoming traffic.

Meatloaf says 0 out of 3 is ba a a add.
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I agree with this. But Canada doesn't run an offense where we have a lot of fast options. Our play calls basically are all throws to the sidelines. Not a lot of quick slants etc that other teams abuse us with.
 
Steel Reign said:
Even if one believes Rudolph is the better option, putting his immobile self in this week is basically signing his death warrant (particularly in a Canada offense). I think it has to be Trubs this week for no other reason than nmobility.
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Exactly… you wouldn’t want to bring in late career Ben to run this O either… unless you absolutely hated him and wanted him punished
 
Hate to see Kenny hurt BUT maybe he will get a mind adjustment and play better when he comes back. Reality he has looked bad this year, three out of four games lost on the field. Look at his face he is having no fun, has that look Tomlin gets as what do I do now. His passing has not been accurate and his decisions of throwing to tight coverage he has been lucky with. The love affair for a Pitt player, maybe has blinded us for his being the next star. This team need a readjustment and doubt it will matter who we have behind center. I was so excited by all the new faces but we still have the same coaches and nothing has changed.
 
Interesting fact
Mitch Trubisky has thrown for 6 td in a game,
2 more than Kenny has thrown all season.
1 less Than kenny threw all of last season.
Mitch is obviously not the future I'm hoping he plays well enough to show everyone Kenny isn't either
 
bigben said:
Interesting fact
Mitch Trubisky has thrown for 6 td in a game,
2 more than Kenny has thrown all season.
1 less Than kenny threw all of last season.
Mitch is obviously not the future I'm hoping he plays well enough to show everyone Kenny isn't either
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I hope you are wrong but I will say after watching Stroud just pick our defense apart in what, his 3rd start, I was very disappointed at what our first round QB looked like. He did have his best NFL game vs the Raiders so hopefully this was just one step back and next game will be 2 steps forward.
 
FordFairLane said:
I hope you are wrong but I will say after watching Stroud just pick our defense apart in what, his 3rd start, I was very disappointed at what our first round QB looked like. He did have his best NFL game vs the Raiders so hopefully this was just one step back and next game will be 2 steps forward.
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Shocker here. Nobody realizes you are down on Kenny. Wow learn something every day.
 
FordFairLane said:
I hope you are wrong but I will say after watching Stroud just pick our defense apart in what, his 3rd start, I was very disappointed at what our first round QB looked like. He did have his best NFL game vs the Raiders so hopefully this was just one step back and next game will be 2 steps forward.
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True but did you look at the plays being called by the opposing OC? I said this a couple of times yesterday. Canaduh has no clue what he's doing or how to help his young QB. He had no idea how to handle a HOF QB either. Stroud's pass plays were quick and used most of the field (even a nice 20-yard pass to the TE down the middle). Some will say Stroud works through his progressions but that was rarely the case. He almost always threw to the guy he was staring at - the first read. He had to get the ball out quickly as they knew he had a terrible OL in front of him. The OC made the adjustments needed. Then, you look at our plays and they are high school in comparison. Canaduh is clueless in all aspects. Stroud's WR's were wide-open on most of his throws as well. That sure helps.
 
TDX27 said:
True but did you look at the plays being called by the opposing OC? I said this a couple of times yesterday. Canaduh has no clue what he's doing or how to help his young QB. He had no idea how to handle a HOF QB either. Stroud's pass plays were quick and used most of the field (even a nice 20-yard pass to the TE down the middle). Some will say Stroud works through his progressions but that was rarely the case. He almost always threw to the guy he was staring at - the first read. He had to get the ball out quickly as they knew he had a terrible OL in front of him. The OC made the adjustments needed. Then, you look at our plays and they are high school in comparison. Canaduh is clueless in all aspects. Stroud's WR's were wide-open on most of his throws as well. That sure helps.
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I am not defending Matt Canada. But I did again see several plays where Kenny missed the open man. If Kenny had a better grasp on route combinations and didn't get happy feet I honestly think our offense would be middle of the pack. Certainly not where we need it to be. But definitely not as bad. Stoud just seems to see the field better, had better anticipation, and threw a more accurate ball. There's going to be growing pains with a young QB. I am hoping the raiders game wasn't a fluke because he took steps forward and not because of how bad the raiders are. There's blame to go around. Tomlin, Austin, Rooney, Canada, and Pickett.
 
FordFairLane said:
I am not defending Matt Canada. But I did again see several plays where Kenny missed the open man. If Kenny had a better grasp on route combinations and didn't get happy feet I honestly think our offense would be middle of the pack. Certainly not where we need it to be. But definitely not as bad. Stoud just seems to see the field better, had better anticipation, and threw a more accurate ball. There's going to be growing pains with a young QB. I am hoping the raiders game wasn't a fluke because he took steps forward and not because of how bad the raiders are. There's blame to go around. Tomlin, Austin, Rooney, Canada, and Pickett.
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You should just rebuttal everytime but Kenny Kenny Kenny.

Never mind that that OC or HC isn't coaching him up.

B b b but Kenny Kenny Kenny!

Yes Kenny had deficiencies but the ones supposedly coaching him up have bigger deficiencies.
 
Ya know to me it doesn’t really matter if it’s Mitch or Mason since the both will be running the same ****** up offensive schemes and plays. The OL will still be bad. The running game will still be below the line. The offense will still be predictable.
I’m already gassed for this season with absolutely zero hope and we’ve only played four games.
And making things worse the owner doesn’t seem to recognize there are problems with mediocrity being the new standard.
 
I hope they replace Tomlin. But I was really hoping for that last time and then Rooney foolishly extended his contract.
 
Anyone watched the Foundation Season 2 series and the "Castling" device? Put Mitch or Rudy in - doesn't really matter - and have them Castle with Canada when the play goes South and they are about to get killed.
 
bigben said:
Interesting fact
Mitch Trubisky has thrown for 6 td in a game,
2 more than Kenny has thrown all season.
1 less Than kenny threw all of last season.
Mitch is obviously not the future I'm hoping he plays well enough to show everyone Kenny isn't either
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Your hopes all revolve around the players? The trends of this team paint a different picture.


1 Canada is not a NFL caliber OC.
2 The head coach hasn't shown he is capable of identifying the above mentioned.
3 The D isn't playing well but belong in this spot.

Without solving these first two problems the QB room will remain unsettled.
 
FordFairLane said:
I am not defending Matt Canada. But I did again see several plays where Kenny missed the open man. If Kenny had a better grasp on route combinations and didn't get happy feet I honestly think our offense would be middle of the pack. Certainly not where we need it to be. But definitely not as bad. Stoud just seems to see the field better, had better anticipation, and threw a more accurate ball. There's going to be growing pains with a young QB. I am hoping the raiders game wasn't a fluke because he took steps forward and not because of how bad the raiders are. There's blame to go around. Tomlin, Austin, Rooney, Canada, and Pickett.
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I agree and didn't think you were defending Canaduh. I just think the other, very young, OC is doing a much better job with what he has and obviously had a much better game plan to start with. KP did miss an open guy in the endzone on the one play but he was also about to get hit and may not have seen him break open behind the multiple rows of plays between him and the corner of the endzone. I think it was Heyward that might have ended up free in the corner but it was too late. Everyone and I mean everyone has known the plays we are running for the past 3 years since Canaduh took over. There is just no way he should still have a job and this week truly highlighted that fact.
 
In response to the original question, I would have to say Mitch.

But as others have said previously.... the preparation, (or lack thereof for a team we should beat by 3 points) play calling, (abysmal as usual) adjustments, (what adjustments) and poor on-field decisions, (every game) are such a mess I honestly don't think it'll matter. Only Art II can fix this.
 
TDX27 said:
I agree and didn't think you were defending Canaduh. I just think the other, very young, OC is doing a much better job with what he has and obviously had a much better game plan to start with. KP did miss an open guy in the endzone on the one play but he was also about to get hit and may not have seen him break open behind the multiple rows of plays between him and the corner of the endzone. I think it was Heyward that might have ended up free in the corner but it was too late. Everyone and I mean everyone has known the plays we are running for the past 3 years since Canaduh took over. There is just no way he should still have a job and this week truly highlighted that fact.
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We have a lot of subpar to mediocre coaches and starters. I agree. I think that is what this team has become. Average. I just have learned to be very blunt about my position. Because the people who venomously attack Canada will vehemently defend Pickett. Canada is the new scapegoat for the teams problems. Canada isn’t a good OC. A dead legged Ben Roethlisberger could barely make the offense move. 10+ years ago Ben would have made him look competent. But what he does every other team does as well. Just more effectively. Canada is uninspiring. But if KP hits his 5-6 misses a game maybe the offense would be competitive enough. Not enough to save Canadas job but enough to steal a few more wins. So at the end of the day we have a mediocre HC, OC, DC, OL Coach, OL play, QB play, and owner. There’s plenty of blame to go around.
 
It’s obvious. It is Trubisky. He’s next on the depth chart. If Pickett is out long term and Trubisky is struggling or the offense is struggling, then you switch to Rudolph.
 
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