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Rand is almost as extreme as his father. Rand wants to gut the military and pull out of anything that has to do with the rest of the world. That kind of view is beyond naive.

The Patriot Act was ruled to be constitutional. Sure, it could be modified but having the tools to keep this country safe is much better than losing what some call a tiny bit of liberty. You have no liberty if the country isn't safe. Safety is number 1 in my book. As soon as ISIS has their first large attack on our homeland, and they will, all those Rand lovers will be hiding with their tales between their legs.
It's going to take something extreme to fix this mess we're in.
 
Why not. I think the GOP is obviously trying to see what sticks. The arrow is pointing up on Mr. Trump. He has vote potential. He's got some funky hair issues and we acknowledge that. Obviously there are have been some character issues in the past and we acknowledge that and accept it
 
You have negative knowledge of what you are talking about. Non-interventionist foreign policy is not the same as isolationism. And the fact of the mater is the domestic spying and infringements of personal liberty and individual rights codified into law in the patriot act caught ZERO terrorists and actually allowed some terror attacks to occur(Boston Marathon Bombing ring a bell). We are spending our selves into oblivion on objectiveless war that is actually creating more terrorists. The USA could cut our defense budget in half and still out spend more than the 5 countries with the next largest defense budgets combined. Those 5 countries are all our allies by the way. I think we would be much safer if we pulled all our troops out of Korea, Germany, Okinawa and the myriad other places where we have troops stationed and secured our borders with them rather than enforcing a defacto empire with them.

Pamela Geller has flushed out more terrorists than the NSA did.
 
I am a republican. Rand is beyond republican. He is as far right as socialist/communist, Bernie, is to the left. Both would destroy this country.

You are not trading one for the other. If you don't have security, you have no liberty. It really is pretty obvious.

Sooo......how much liberty are you willing to sacrifice for "security"?
 
I ripped this off from Spike in another thread. Not a bad showing for Trump, especially since he hasn't announced he's running yet.

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Why are my pics always the size of a ******* postage stamp? Dammit!
 
We would have the hottest first lady in history. Moose's polar opposite. And yes, that matters.

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Never happen but I do like his idea to put a 50% tariff on everything from China and increase it 50% every year until they stop manipulating their currency. **** China.
 
Funny thing is the liberal states are higher educated, have higher incomes and a lower murder rate.

LMFAO. Chicago, Baltimore, and NYC are all liberal cities in liberal states. Wanna talk murder rates there?
 
LMFAO. Chicago, Baltimore, and NYC are all liberal cities in liberal states. Wanna talk murder rates there?

Yes please let's talk murder rate funny thing is conservatives talk with no actual data. facts are NYC has the lowest murder rate of large cities below the national average. Let's also talk Chicago I love how conservatives bring Chicago up its not even in the top 10. You know what 7 out of the top 10 deadliest cities have in common all from conservative states. So I'm glad you want too talk facts. Lmfao olat you for not having knowledge of what he truths are
 
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I'll be waiting steelerlynn since you want to talk about murder rates don't go hiding
 
Most large cities are overwhelmingly Democrat regardless of the composition of the rest of the state. Duh.
 
What do all of these cities have in common? You can argue the stats all you want by per how ever many. Bottom line everybody knows where the most are dieing.


Here’s how the most dangerous cities fared in 2013.

1. Chicago—412

2013 was a pretty good year for Chicagoans. With 412 deaths, more murders happened in the Second City than any other, but 91 fewer people there lost their lives in 2013 than in 2012, an 18 percent decline. That’s the fewest since 1965. It’s an accomplishment that Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy is proud of, but not resting on. “Four hundred murders is nothing to celebrate, let’s be clear. But the fact is, progress is being made,” he told reporters. The rate fell to about 15 murders per 100,000 residents from of 18.5 last year.

2. New York—333

New York murders fell to a record low in 2013. At less than one murder a day, the rate per 100,000 residents fell 20 percent from last year, and at 4.0, it was the only top-ten city to fall below the national average of 4.7. Though 2014 has gotten off to a less than stellar start: two people were killed there on New Year’s Day.

3. Detroit—332

One more murder and Detroit would have taken the number two spot. Although the murder rate is still the highest of the big cities, there were 54 fewer murders in the Motor City than in 2012, a drop of 14 percent. It’s only the fourth time in 30 years that murders have fallen below 350. Detroit Police Chief James Craig has credited the drop in violent crime to a data-driven approach and says, “This reduction is going to be sustainable.”

Despite the headlines, Chicago was a safer city in 2013.

4. Los Angeles—255

Like the rest of the country, L.A.’s murders dropped this year and 44 fewer people lost their lives. But what’s really impressive is the ten-year change. In 2003, 515 people were killed, almost double this year’s count.

5. Philadelphia—246

The City of Brotherly Love is closer to earning its moniker. Killings there were lower than any count since 1967. 85 fewer people died there, cutting the murder rate by over 25 percent.

6. Baltimore—234

It was one of the few cities to see an increase in murders, and Baltimore’s City Police Commissioner Anthony Batts says that 80 percent are drug-related. Murders were up seven percent over last year, up from 218. Baltimore’s violent crime overall saw a decrease from last year.

7. Houston—201

Texas’ largest city saw 201 murders last year, a seven percent decline from last year and the second-lowest since 1965, when 139 people were killed.

8. New Orleans—155

The murder rate in New Orleans dropped almost 20 percent last year and is down 40 percent since 2003, but its rate is still one of the highest in the nation at 42 per 100,000 residents, more than eight times the national average. And as always, data can be deceiving; part of the drop is explained by the survival rate of shooting victims.

9. Memphis—150

With 150 killings as of Tuesday, the largest city in Tennessee was the second in the top ten to see a rise in murders last year, of about 13 percent. The 10-year count is up 19 percent from 2003 and the rate is over four times the national average. Police Lt. Joe Scott explained the uptick in violence earlier this year, saying, “This year there just seems to be a lot of neighborhood arguing.”

10. Dallas—137

Murders in Dallas dropped to 137 last year, continuing the steady decline from 226 murders just a decade ago. First Assistant Chief Cindy Villarreal told The Dallas Morning News that a renewed fight against drug-dealing was the reason for the decline. In general, violent crime slightly rose, however.
 
What do all of these cities have in common? You can argue the stats all you want by per how ever many. Bottom line everybody knows where the most are dieing.


Here’s how the most dangerous cities fared in 2013.

1. Chicago—412

2013 was a pretty good year for Chicagoans. With 412 deaths, more murders happened in the Second City than any other, but 91 fewer people there lost their lives in 2013 than in 2012, an 18 percent decline. That’s the fewest since 1965. It’s an accomplishment that Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy is proud of, but not resting on. “Four hundred murders is nothing to celebrate, let’s be clear. But the fact is, progress is being made,” he told reporters. The rate fell to about 15 murders per 100,000 residents from of 18.5 last year.

2. New York—333

New York murders fell to a record low in 2013. At less than one murder a day, the rate per 100,000 residents fell 20 percent from last year, and at 4.0, it was the only top-ten city to fall below the national average of 4.7. Though 2014 has gotten off to a less than stellar start: two people were killed there on New Year’s Day.

3. Detroit—332

One more murder and Detroit would have taken the number two spot. Although the murder rate is still the highest of the big cities, there were 54 fewer murders in the Motor City than in 2012, a drop of 14 percent. It’s only the fourth time in 30 years that murders have fallen below 350. Detroit Police Chief James Craig has credited the drop in violent crime to a data-driven approach and says, “This reduction is going to be sustainable.”

Despite the headlines, Chicago was a safer city in 2013.

4. Los Angeles—255

Like the rest of the country, L.A.’s murders dropped this year and 44 fewer people lost their lives. But what’s really impressive is the ten-year change. In 2003, 515 people were killed, almost double this year’s count.

5. Philadelphia—246

The City of Brotherly Love is closer to earning its moniker. Killings there were lower than any count since 1967. 85 fewer people died there, cutting the murder rate by over 25 percent.

6. Baltimore—234

It was one of the few cities to see an increase in murders, and Baltimore’s City Police Commissioner Anthony Batts says that 80 percent are drug-related. Murders were up seven percent over last year, up from 218. Baltimore’s violent crime overall saw a decrease from last year.

7. Houston—201

Texas’ largest city saw 201 murders last year, a seven percent decline from last year and the second-lowest since 1965, when 139 people were killed.

8. New Orleans—155

The murder rate in New Orleans dropped almost 20 percent last year and is down 40 percent since 2003, but its rate is still one of the highest in the nation at 42 per 100,000 residents, more than eight times the national average. And as always, data can be deceiving; part of the drop is explained by the survival rate of shooting victims.

9. Memphis—150

With 150 killings as of Tuesday, the largest city in Tennessee was the second in the top ten to see a rise in murders last year, of about 13 percent. The 10-year count is up 19 percent from 2003 and the rate is over four times the national average. Police Lt. Joe Scott explained the uptick in violence earlier this year, saying, “This year there just seems to be a lot of neighborhood arguing.”

10. Dallas—137

Murders in Dallas dropped to 137 last year, continuing the steady decline from 226 murders just a decade ago. First Assistant Chief Cindy Villarreal told The Dallas Morning News that a renewed fight against drug-dealing was the reason for the decline. In general, violent crime slightly rose, however.
Shows your education level when you compare a 7 mill person city to 100k city. Facts are your Pct of getting shot are way lower in NYC then most states. . I also love how Pittsburgh murder rate is over 4 x NYC. So everyday you have a 4 x greater chance of getting murdered in Pittsburgh then NYC. Those are the facts
 
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What do all of these cities have in common? You can argue the stats all you want by per how ever many. Bottom line everybody knows where the most are dieing.


Here’s how the most dangerous cities fared in 2013.

1. Chicago—412

2013 was a pretty good year for Chicagoans. With 412 deaths, more murders happened in the Second City than any other, but 91 fewer people there lost their lives in 2013 than in 2012, an 18 percent decline. That’s the fewest since 1965. It’s an accomplishment that Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy is proud of, but not resting on. “Four hundred murders is nothing to celebrate, let’s be clear. But the fact is, progress is being made,” he told reporters. The rate fell to about 15 murders per 100,000 residents from of 18.5 last year.

2. New York—333

New York murders fell to a record low in 2013. At less than one murder a day, the rate per 100,000 residents fell 20 percent from last year, and at 4.0, it was the only top-ten city to fall below the national average of 4.7. Though 2014 has gotten off to a less than stellar start: two people were killed there on New Year’s Day.

3. Detroit—332

One more murder and Detroit would have taken the number two spot. Although the murder rate is still the highest of the big cities, there were 54 fewer murders in the Motor City than in 2012, a drop of 14 percent. It’s only the fourth time in 30 years that murders have fallen below 350. Detroit Police Chief James Craig has credited the drop in violent crime to a data-driven approach and says, “This reduction is going to be sustainable.”

Despite the headlines, Chicago was a safer city in 2013.

4. Los Angeles—255

Like the rest of the country, L.A.’s murders dropped this year and 44 fewer people lost their lives. But what’s really impressive is the ten-year change. In 2003, 515 people were killed, almost double this year’s count.

5. Philadelphia—246

The City of Brotherly Love is closer to earning its moniker. Killings there were lower than any count since 1967. 85 fewer people died there, cutting the murder rate by over 25 percent.

6. Baltimore—234

It was one of the few cities to see an increase in murders, and Baltimore’s City Police Commissioner Anthony Batts says that 80 percent are drug-related. Murders were up seven percent over last year, up from 218. Baltimore’s violent crime overall saw a decrease from last year.

7. Houston—201

Texas’ largest city saw 201 murders last year, a seven percent decline from last year and the second-lowest since 1965, when 139 people were killed.

8. New Orleans—155

The murder rate in New Orleans dropped almost 20 percent last year and is down 40 percent since 2003, but its rate is still one of the highest in the nation at 42 per 100,000 residents, more than eight times the national average. And as always, data can be deceiving; part of the drop is explained by the survival rate of shooting victims.

9. Memphis—150

With 150 killings as of Tuesday, the largest city in Tennessee was the second in the top ten to see a rise in murders last year, of about 13 percent. The 10-year count is up 19 percent from 2003 and the rate is over four times the national average. Police Lt. Joe Scott explained the uptick in violence earlier this year, saying, “This year there just seems to be a lot of neighborhood arguing.”

10. Dallas—137

Murders in Dallas dropped to 137 last year, continuing the steady decline from 226 murders just a decade ago. First Assistant Chief Cindy Villarreal told The Dallas Morning News that a renewed fight against drug-dealing was the reason for the decline. In general, violent crime slightly rose, however.

I also see South Carolina has a high murder rate much higher then NYC. You're absolutrly right we do know where people are dieng and south Carolina is one of those places lmfao. NYC 4.0 rate South Carolina 6.2 rate. Over 50% higher what a shithole
 
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I am a republican. Rand is beyond republican. He is as far right as socialist/communist, Bernie, is to the left. Both would destroy this country.

You are not trading one for the other. If you don't have security, you have no liberty. It really is pretty obvious.

Sooo......how much liberty are you willing to sacrifice for "security"?

I'll be waiting steelerlynn since you want to talk about murder rates don't go hiding

Hold on.....how 'bout you answer a question first?
 
Most large cities are overwhelmingly Democrat regardless of the composition of the rest of the state. Duh.
Here is PA for example. Bomma won PA both times BTW. As said on one of the websites where I was looking for a map, "All the Democrats need is a crushing majority in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia and they can tell the rest of the state to go to hell". Which frankly the last two Democrat governors did.

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