Trump - Make America Great Again!

[oneforthebus]

I thank those who've defended me, I appreciate it, but let me say I was raised by an abusive alcoholic Irishman so if anyone thinks they can say anything to me on a message board that's going to have me running off crying over my gentle sensibilities being hurt they have the wrong gal. Give it your best shot SV, I actually find it pretty amusing how unhinged you're becoming. I can tell you've rarely had the mirror held up to your face before and you don't really like who you're seeing in it.

It's kind of sad because I don't actually think that's who you are. As Tibs said it's probably who you fantasize about being, what you must imagine a real man acts like.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

Steel Vanguard, you and I seem to be pretty closely aligned in our political views, from what I can tell based on your posts. Believe me, I've faced the wrath of the right wing majority here. Certain posters, notably IndySteel, has in my view crossed the line several times with personal attacks et al. I was offended at first, but after a while I chose to take the high road. If anything, that was a sign that it's okay to 'hit back' with certain posters, stand your ground, and maybe take a few swings back. That's what men do. I myself have probably gone a bit too far from time to time.

But I've got to tell you, your personal attacks on oneforthebus are totally unacceptable. First, you're talking to a lady, for crying out loud. If you're a real man, you'd never talk to a lady like that. It's as simple as that.

Follow it from the beginning. She threw **** at me for MONTHS before I hit back. MONTHS.

This is the problem. All you see is the end, where I cut loose on her. You don't see the months of berating she's been doing. Or you conveniently ignore it. I don't give a **** if she's a woman. Equal pay for equal work. If she wants to talk **** like a man, she can take **** like a man. Otherwise, she can keep her trap shut.

You're yet another liberal with no balls to stand up to anyone with two X chromosomes. You DEMAND equal rights for women, but then turn around and DEMAND special treatment for women. Which is it? I defy you to find one poster I've gone after who didn't personally attack me first.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

Second, it's everyone's choice to visit this board, to participate in the discourse. It's a community of Steelers' fans, that's the common bond between us all. We come from all walks of life, different races, different religions and political views. To attack fellow posters in the manner you do, again, is unacceptable.

For you to ignore all the first shots, and berate me for retaliating is what's unacceptable. On the one hand you admit this board is full of personal attack artists, then turn around and say retaliating is "unacceptable". I took much **** for many months, and tried to stay on subject. Where the **** were you, son? Huh? Where were you when all the negativity and personal attacks on me were flying around just because I disagreed on this or that topic?

Silent. Not a ******* peep. So climb down off your high horse. You could have spoken up MONTHS ago about how I've been treated here.

My rule of thumb for posting on the internet, is act the way you would when getting together with people in a bar, or at a picnic or a barbecue. In what world do you live in that would allow you to speak to oneforthebus, or even Supe, in the manner that you do? You'd have guys swinging at you within minutes, me included.

You're evidently a proud black dude (I guess), all the power to you. But no real man brags about his sexual exploits the way you do. That tells me you're probably fantasizing about all the things you'd like to do. The young blondes, all the tail that you get. Who the **** gets on the internet and brags about **** like that?

This part is just silly, and is your pro-feminist special treatment **** rearing it's head. I make a few cracks here and there about females and somehow that becomes bragging about my "exploits"? Do you even know where that discussion started? No. Of course you don't.

I occasionally bring up the white girl thing when talking to bigots because I know how much it gets their goad. I been Black all my life, and nothing pisses racist dudes off more than that white girl issue. In this day and age, I don't even know why. But it does. And if you bothered to read, it's those racist dudes who KEEP BRINGING IT UP. It's OFTB who KEEPS BRINGING IT UP.

Go ahead. READ, son. They bring it up, and I RESPOND. Not the other way around.

Getting back to this board, there's got to be a basic level of respect and decorum in the way we treat each other. Even if we're diametrically opposed in our political views. But you've crossed the line in a manner that has nothing to do with politics. It's about basic human decency and more than anything, being a man.

Ok. Where's your rant on the total lack of respect on their end? I'm curious to see it. You're awful judgemental for a guy who gets called every name in the book around here, and I don't see you calling for those cats to get banned.

I don't know if you'll be banned or not, don't really care. You've done plenty in my book to be banned for life, not just here, but in any online community.

My advice to you is to man up. The world doesn't revolve around you and your Ron Jeremy porno fantasies. If you want to be a part of this thing, take the higher ground and start treating people - especially the ladies - with respect. Respect given = respect earned.

Hope you get your **** together.

**** you. This is my last post anyway.

You clearly don't care **** about the truth. You love the sound of your own voice. Your take on this is totally one sided and doesn't take into account how long I went taking personal attacks without saying a damn thing.

You're a coward, just like Supe.

 

[Tibs]

Vanguard, take a deep breath man. You've clearly let this board get the best of you. I've been down the same path.

As far as where have I been while you were getting attacked for weeks, months on end? I'll tell you. I was probably the only guy on here liking your posts and sending you rep. You're a smart dude, there's no doubting that. But you gotta have thicker skin, be it white or black.

The one big difference between you and I is you feel vindicated to take the gloves off if others give you low blows. That's not a path to follow. The ole 'two wrongs don't make a right' adage.

As far as the attacks on women being cool with you...maybe it's the way I was raised - and the reason I've been married for 16 years- that I choose to bite my tongue. I must be old school, when it comes to that stuff.

The fact that you call me a coward says a lot more about you than it does about me.

I'm on your side, for whatever it's worth, in the big scheme of things. You may feel you have all the reason in the world to lash out like you have, but I think about 75% of that holds ground. You're now skating on the 25% that's simply over the top.

The best friends we can have in life are the ones that can tell us to shut the **** up from time to time.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Why would I ''ask'' that you care about racism? I don't give a **** what you think. Of course you don't care about racism or bigotry. That's an established fact here on the board. You will always come up with excuses as to why not, but you turn a blind eye regardless.

Did you not just ask people to not put words in your mouth? And here you go. Oh, I care a ton about racism. Once again, you know nothing about me. But I am confident in saying I do more for minorities than you. This is a fact.

What you misconstrued - shocker - is that I'm not going to get up in arms about these comments when the standard isn't equal. I care when anyone makes comments that are racist. But don't ask me to rage because Donald Trump utters something bigoted when you, the media and the Left will turn a blind eye and forgive every racist Democrat that utters bigoted statements.

That was the point.

 

[Tibs]

But I am confident in saying I do more for minorities than you. This is a fact.

You know absolutely nothing about me, or the life I live. How can that be a fact? What are you trying to prove?

I'm not going to get up in arms about these comments when the standard isn't equal.

That's crazy. If the comments are unacceptable you should be up in arms regardless of the standard. Life is not graded on a curve.

But don't ask me to rage because Donald Trump utters something bigoted

Why would I or anyone else need to 'ask you to rage?' If you care about racism to the extent that you claim to, you would 'rage' against it all on your own.

when you, the media and the Left will turn a blind eye and forgive every racist Democrat that utters bigoted statements.

Wow. So others running a red light makes it okay for you to run a red light. Understood.

That was the point.

The points you make on this board are consistently mystical in nature.

 

[Spike]

I didn't predict jack ****, just said it looks like there'll be another candidate. Is it too much to ask to not constantly put words in my mouth?

Oh Tibs, it's so hard to know what you say anymore, you're jumping around like a desperate delirious rat looking for a way off a sinking ship. Got the Bernie the Loser blues?

Admit it. If it wasn't for my brilliant reporting you wouldn't have even come back.

Still sore over my fireworks and champagne party after you left too, I bet....I do get carried away...it must be the vodka.


and you never did respond to this...

 

[ark steel]

he's won a lifetime of luxury with Miz Ark!
he's a lucky man!

Uhhh, yay!!!....?

 

[IndySteel]

Vantard pulls out the victim card. Who saw that one coming? Shocker.

 

[oneforthebus]

Follow it from the beginning. She threw **** at me for MONTHS before I hit back. MONTHS.

Honestly, I really have no idea what you're talking about here. I've disagreed with you, I've even agreed with you at times. I believe I've even pointed out times when your argument was reasonable.

I found your comments vis a vis women to be crude, sexist and racist. I pointed out that you have the same sorts of biases that you constantly accuse others of having. That's a political discussion, not a personal attack.

As a woman and a mother of girls your comments creeped me out. Not just me, several other people. Again, it's not because of your sexual morality, I don't care what or who you do as long as it's not children. It's because you describe women you know and spend time with in dehumanizing terms akin to describing a piece of meat. That's just weird dude, sorry. Sexist because WOMEN ARE HUMAN BEINGS...not blow up dolls put on earth to be your cumbuckets. I've got bad news for you, the vast majority of normal women do not find that kind of talk fun or sexually liberating. They find it gross and degrading. If you managed to find some women who enjoy being lied to and treated in such a manner I feel sorry for them. They are very damaged and you are taking full advantage of that.

If you're going to keep calling other people out as being racist for wanting laws to be enforced, at least acknowledge that you yourself fully admit to choosing who you spend time with BASED ON RACE. That's racism, no matter how much you want to couch it as something else.

 

[Tibs]

Oh Tibs, it's so hard to know what you say anymore, you're jumping around like a desperate deliriuos rat looking for a way off a sinking ****. Got the Bernie the Loser blues? Admit it. If it wasn't for my brilliant reporting you wouldn't have even come back. Still sore over my fireworks and champagne party after you left too, I bet....I do get carried away...it must be the vodka.

Spike, you make me laugh harder, and more deep down in my gut, than any other poster on here. Don't worry about me if and when Bernie kneels on his sword. I'll make it through ok. Just will be a damn shame for the country.

 

[Spike]

Don't worry about me if and when Bernie kneels on his sword.

So you still think there's a chance.

Now that's a diehard fan

 

[Tibs]

So you still think there's a chance. Now that's a diehard fan

Curious to see what happens in Cali next week. If Bernie holds on there, he may stay in for a wee bit longer, with the hope some of these super-duper delegates start reconsidering. That's all I got...

 

[oneforthebus]

Curious to see what happens in Cali next week. If Bernie holds on there, he may stay in for a wee bit longer, with the hope some of these super-duper delegates start reconsidering. That's all I got...

I hope she loses just so I can see the look on her face when she has to concede.

And then she's gonna have to go all "I care about the little peeples" in the campaign for the general, but she's so incredibly tone deaf she can't pull it off. That's gonna be great.

 

[Tibs]

Getting back to important issues at hand. I still can't for the life of me imagine this pinhead is actually gonna be on the ballot in November. You poor conservative souls deserve better.

Donald Trump calls his campaign stupid, staffed by 'people who aren't that smart'
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/...-people-who-aren-t-that-smart?detail=facebook

This whole piece is amazing. Bloomberg article > http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...-intensify-criticism-of-judge-and-journalists

An embattled Donald Trump urgently rallied his most visible supporters to defend his attacks on a federal judge's Mexican ancestry during a conference call on Monday in which he ordered them to question the judge's credibility and impugn reporters as racists.

"We will overcome," Trump said, according to two supporters who were on the call and requested anonymity to share their notes with Bloomberg Politics. "And I’ve always won and I’m going to continue to win. And that’s the way it is.

1. “We will overcome.” Because no one has suffered more discrimination than Donnieboy. Tremendous discrimination. The greatest.

2. “Two supporters who were on the call” ratted out ol’ Don. Such great “supporters” he has there…

3. “I’ve always won and I’m going to continue to win. And that’s the way it is.” I live in perpetual fear that Trump will quit before the election and take his ball home with him. Then we’d be stuck running against Paul Ryan. Quotes like this put my mind to ease. And as a bonus, they heighten my anticipation for Trump’s November concession speech litany of lawsuit threats.

All that, plus the doubling down on the racism, is pretty amazing. But that’s not all!

When former Arizona Governor Jan Brewer interrupted the discussion to inform Trump that his own campaign had asked surrogates to stop talking about the lawsuit in an e-mail on Sunday, Trump repeatedly demanded to know who sent the memo, and immediately overruled his staff [...]

"Are there any other stupid letters that were sent to you folks?" Trump said. "That's one of the reasons I want to have this call, because you guys are getting sometimes stupid information from people that aren't so smart.“

That’s him talking about his campaign.

So the Donnster has a call with his friends, none of whom were too interested in bailing him out last week after Clinton wiped the floor with him, and proceeds to tell him his staff are stupid people who send out stupid information.

Told the memo was sent by Erica Freeman, a staffer who circulates information to surrogates, Trump said he didn't know her.

Poor Erica Freeman. No one ever knew her and now she’s so fired. But hey, that’s what you get for working for an unreconstructed, unapologetic racist, misogynist, and all-around bigot. Still, you’d think the Republican frontrunner would be all about hiring the supposedly smartest people for his campaign, right? How can anyone trust him to staff up the federal bureaucracy if he and his people can’t even handle the simple task of “person who circulates information to surrogates”?

Of course, that same memo was circulated to his entire top brass, so given that none of them put the kibosh on it, chances are they all had a hand in drafting it.

The e-mailed memo, sent by Freeman on Sunday, was cc'd to campaign manager Corey Lewandowski; Hope Hicks, Trump's top communications staffer; and Rick Gates, a top aide to campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

So all those people who aren’t so smart send that stupid information to his surrogates. Looks like Donaldo has a lot of firing to do.

Meanwhile, he’ll personally handle the task of delivering talking points to all his surrogates, because there’s really only one smart person in the entire world, except for Vladimir Putin, who is smart because he realizes how smart Trump is. And nothing works better in presidential campaign management than micromanaging every facet of it. If you want it done well, do it yourself, right?

Given the quality of people who would want to be around Trump, odds are, that’s his best bet regardless.

 

[Spike]

Vantard pulls out the victim card. Who saw that one coming? Shocker.

We're all victims, eh?

Take poor, poor Tibs...he gives away his life savings at $27 dolla a day pop to Crazy Bernie, for an entire year, and now he's about to lose it all tomorrow.

Imagine the pain he must feel.

 

[diver]

You know absolutely nothing about me, or the life I live. How can that be a fact? What are you trying to prove?


That's crazy. If the comments are unacceptable you should be up in arms regardless of the standard. Life is not graded on a curve.


Why would I or anyone else need to 'ask you to rage?' If you care about racism to the extent that you claim to, you would 'rage' against it all on your own.


Wow. So others running a red light makes it okay for you to run a red light. Understood.


The points you make on this board are consistently mystical in nature.

Right or wrong, this is the frustration out there, and why Trump is where he is. People are just flat out sick and tired of the double standard. I am not saying it is right, but that is one of the real driving forces here. You are, with that statement, acknowledging a double standard exists.

 

[Steeltime]

I defy you to find one poster I've gone after who didn't personally attack me first. Go ahead. I'll wait.

Uhhh, how about earlier in this thread, where I quoted you, and then pointed out that your position - laughing at people attending a political rally and saying they "deserved" to be beaten - was demonstrably, clearly wrong, and in fact the thugs who appear at the rallies just to get into fights are modeled after the brownshirts. I linked to a Wiki article, supporting my statement.

I did not call you stupid, or a racist, or a pedophile. I pointed out that you are WRONG, and that your position was indefensible. I expected you to respond, "Yeah, laughing at people getting assaulted is not cool. I may have overstated my position."

Instead, you wrote that I was a racist and "didn't like the darkies."

You mean like that?

I occasionally bring up the white girl thing when talking to bigots because I know how much it gets their goad. I been Black all my life, and nothing pisses racist dudes off more than that white girl issue. In this day and age, I don't even know why. But it does. And if you bothered to read, it's those racist dudes who KEEP BRINGING IT UP. It's OFTB who KEEPS BRINGING IT UP.

No, I bring up the fact that you are a male in his 40's or 50's who lies to girls about his age because "their ******* are tight."

I don't recall even mentioning the girls' color, and YOU are the one who stated that the girls need to be white, preferably blonde.

I been Black all my life,

This guy too:

 

[Superman]

I defy you to find one poster I've gone after who didn't personally attack me first.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

hello, fuckface.

I'll save everyone the time of searching. You jumped on me, Tim and Steeltime in post 5010 of this very thread. You wanted everyone to know you're black, you're proud and you **** white girls. When it's presented to you that no one gives a ****, you get irritated. I mean, throwing it to a white girl is your badge of honor.You're an Uncle Tom wanna be and think that by coming in here and being "black all your life" that we'll just kowtow and apologize for haivng different opinions. Kinda doesnt work that way around here. And we don't give a **** about your bullshit immaturity. Literally no one is impressed that you're allegedly ******* white girls. No one. Hell, someone has to **** the fat white chicks that the white guys won't ****. And we know that the fat girls have the smoothness, tightness wetness quotient that you so desire... since no one else is ******* them.

You've got yourself one helluva prize there, buddy:

I can only imagine that it's not your stunning looks, or your bulging biceps, or your youthful appearance. I'd speculate that it quite frankly is what onefor said - it's that these chicks see you as a Sugar Daddy and not a goddamn thing more. Oh, forgot... your mixtape isn't fire and won't be turnt up anytime soon.

Your hypocrisy is astounding. You jumped up screaming bigotry and racism, but when asked to PROVE it, you refuse to do so. Yet then ask Tibs (the only guy on your side) to prove to you that you were out of line. Hippo(your favorite white girls)crisy.

You've not been called "every name in the book", though ************* douchebag loser cuntface ***** does seem to fit you.

You call me a coward, and Tibs a coward, but you're the ***** who's running away instead of facing up to the bullshit you've inflicted upon yourself. You're welcome to **** off. This board will go on and be better without you here. ******* mooching *******.

 

[Spike]

For the record, I am starting to believe this SV guy is just another bogus iteration of Polo/Elfie. Isn't it funny how one disappears, and another appears shortly afterward. He is back to being the black guy again. I really miss the clown car videos. Classics. I think I liked the Jewish Native American better.

We all pine for the goode olde days of Fordy and the like...good solid alcoholics

Now we have crackhead lowlifes soiling the carpets of the hallowed halls of the Grand Old Steeler Nation

GET THEM OUT!

that's what I say



yea verily


*******

 

[diver]

Maybe he needs the "******* to be tight."

Maybe that explains his combative nature. Overcompensating.

BTW, that picture up there is going to give me nightmares For **** sake.

 

[Tibs]

You are, with that statement, acknowledging a double standard exists.

Absolutely, there are no saints on either side.

The idea of political affiliation is a vague concept. Human virtue is more tangible.

I've supported president Obama for basically the past eight years. That's a pretty long time. Reading this board Obama is the second incarnate of Lucifer rising out of the inferno of Hell. I supported Clinton before him, that's about it. I liked Reagan and even George HW Bush. Gerald Ford is also on the list of serviceable Republicans. The fact I'm writing about the 70's and 80's is duly noted.

So to that end I ask you, is Donald Trump's racism and bigotry right or wrong?

I am not saying it is right...

There you have it, that's what should matter.

 

[Tibs]

Where the **** were you, son? Huh?

Out of all the nasty **** you wrote as your head exploded, couple of items stick out.

The fact you called me son 4-5 times in your post. Unless you're an 80 year old man with white, curly hairs growing out of your ***, not sure why you're calling me son.

But what really hurt, kind of got my stomach in a knot was something only my wife's ever said to me...

You love the sound of your own voice.

That hurt man, right in the gut.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

**** you. This is my last post anyway.

Promises, promises....

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

You know absolutely nothing about me, or the life I live. How can that be a fact? What are you trying to prove?

Just as you can claim (as if it's fact) that I don't care about racism or bigotry.

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That's crazy. If the comments are unacceptable you should be up in arms regardless of the standard. Life is not graded on a curve.

Not a bit crazier than you turning a blind eye to Democratic racism. Please share for the board the outrage you've expressed over Hillary's hot sauce comments, calling blacks super predators and that they need to come to "heel" or her famous (God, that was funny!) skit with DeBlasio making fun of Colored People's time.

You're right, I should be up in arms. Everyone should be. But this is why Trump is succeeding. Posts like yours and behavior like yours. You and Liberals have persistently refused to hold your own accountable for deplorable acts. Yet expect we should live by a higher standard.

One could take this argument two ways: The old "You first" routine, or say "I'm behaving as you've taught me to behave, by your example." Which do you prefer we use?

Why would I or anyone else need to 'ask you to rage?' If you care about racism to the extent that you claim to, you would 'rage' against it all on your own.

I do. You just have this vision of what I am in your mind's eye that's as warped as some of your political views. The fact that I won't join you here condemning Donald Trump doesn't take away from my humanitarian and cross-racial work.

Wow. So others running a red light makes it okay for you to run a red light. Understood.

Not in the least. As a citizen I would demand all red light runners be treated equally under the law. If you excuse some, excuse all. Or punish all to the same extent. That simple. You are asking me and others to accept tickets for Conservatives running red lights while accepting the continual pardon of Democratic red light runners. Punish all or punish none. Which would you like to have?

No one on this side believes, for a minute, that the media is going to start treating candidates fairly and put them under the same microscope. And until they do, why should Conservatives have to answer for sins the Left never has to answer for? Can you provide an answer for that?

The points you make on this board are consistently mystical in nature.

Understanding rational, logical reason has never been your strong suit. Understanding a level playing field and double standards hasn't been either. Case in point: "Don't put words in my mouth!" followed by, 3 posts later, you putting words in someone's mouth....

 

[diver]

Absolutely, there are no saints on either side.

The idea of political affiliation is a vague concept. Human virtue is more tangible.

I've supported president Obama for basically the past eight years. That's a pretty long time. Reading this board Obama is the second incarnate of Lucifer rising out of the inferno of Hell. I supported Clinton before him, that's about it. I liked Reagan and even George HW Bush. Gerald Ford is also on the list of serviceable Republicans. The fact I'm writing about the 70's and 80's is duly noted.

So to that end I ask you, is Donald Trump's racism and bigotry right or wrong?



There you have it, that's what should matter.

It isn't right.

But Democrats have become like the boy that cries wolf when it comes to racism and bigotry. They use it all the time, hell, can we even really spot it anymore when it truly is?