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No one on this side believes, for a minute, that the media is going to start treating candidates fairly and put them under the same microscope. And until they do, why should Conservatives have to answer for sins the Left never has to answer for? Can you provide an answer for that?

This statement proves the point I'm trying to make. It would take me to say something salty about Hillary Clinton for you to admonish Trump for making a racist statement? That's pretty ****** up. Think about what you're suggesting here.

...why should Conservatives have to answer for sins the Left never has to answer for?"

The answer is they shouldn't. Let's all just roll around in horseshit till the end of time.
 
I think what everyone that doesn't understand Trump getting votes is this:

We hate politicians. I literally hate them all now. I don't know what happened over the last 10-15 years, but it's gotten bad, worse, whatever. Maybe I'm older and just in a worse mood. That could be. Can't deny that. But I really hate Washington now. And I hate "government" at almost every level.... federal, state and local. The waste; the bullshit; the blatant lies; the grubby, dirty money; the backroom "deals"; the post-congressional lobbiest jobs.... the list goes ON and ON and ON. Hell, maybe it's the internet and the fact so much more information is available to us. It's so transparent now just how corrupt and self-serving the "system" is. It's not filtered anymore by the likewise corrupt "news media" when we can find out more facts and other sides via the internet. In fact it just reinforces how corrupt the system has been for decades.

So I think what every "Trump Hater" has to realize is that even though he is likely a despicable human being, he can never be as despicable as a politician. Because politicians are absolutely, right now, the BOTTOM OF THE BARREL. They are by far to me the most dishonest and immoral profession in the whole United States. That includes Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Mitch McConnell, Nancy Pelosi, Elizabeth Warren, Sarah Palin, John McCain....

No matter WHAT Donald Trump does, he will never fall LOWER than those currently in Washington that have abused their power for their own self-interest. I really don't think there is one honest soul in the whole bunch. Not one.

Every time Tibs or someone else quotes a politician against Trump, I just laugh.... What has anyone in Washington done that is good for this country and not self-serving to their party, themselves or their re-election? Has any politician in recent memory done anything altruistic and not for their own (or their party's) benefit? Any? Once?

I don't think anti-Trump people realize this kind of anger America has for its politicians right now. And I really don't think it's misplaced or over reacting at all. Both sides have brought this on themselves. Both sides have so blatantly put themselves, their reelection, their parties, their financial gain so far ahead of the PEOPLE THEY REPRESENT that is no longer matter what they say or how they say it or whether they are good, bad or inbetween people.

They have lost my faith. Period.

I really don't like the Donald Trump of the last 10-14 days. He won the Republican nomination. Now turn it off for a bit. Let the Democrats eat each other for a while. Sit back and watch. I understand he's flawed enough that he probably can't do that. He is a very flawed candidate.

But he's NOT A POLITICIAN and by definition, that makes him better than all of them. No matter his warts.

I also think he would be better for the country, because I just can't imagine him, who has all the money in the world, at age 70, doesn't have the country's interest first over his own. If there is one thing I honestly do believe about Trump's candidacy is that for all his flamboyance and foot-in-mouth stupidity, he is not in this for any reason other than what he thinks is better for the country. I honestly believe that. Some of his ideas might be off-base. Some might be wrong, but they are being done with good intentions.

I can't say that about any other politician I have seen in the last 15 years.
 
We all have moments of clarity when it comes to political things, I think. Moments that sort of define how we think, or at least shapes our thinking.

Mine was 1991 during the Clarence Thomas hearings. I remember this so well because my Mom was battling cancer, and since I still lived close by and with my work schedule at that time, I could take her to chemo during the day. While she would get chemo, I would watch the hearings on TV in the waiting area. Watching that, we all witnessed Democrats, who were supposed to be the great defenders any and all minorities try to everything they could to railroad a black man, on live TV.

So, for about 25 years I have realized the myth of the Democrat party. Since then they have done nothing to show me anything other than they are full of ****.
 
Del hit the nail on the head. When I see people attending rallies and contributing $ to the campaigns of these career politicials( regardless of party), I wonder what the hell they are thinking.
 
Del hit the nail on the head. When I see people attending rallies and contributing $ to the campaigns of these career politicials( regardless of party), I wonder what the hell they are thinking.

Trump is creating $15 an hour jobs and he's not even won the election yet.

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Ya think Soros' money is behind this?
 
This statement proves the point I'm trying to make. It would take me to say something salty about Hillary Clinton for you to admonish Trump for making a racist statement? That's pretty ****** up. Think about what you're suggesting here.

Yep, pretty much. We've been tasked with taking the high road for a few election cycles now. Nothing changes. Democrat in office in the 1990s, Republicans bad. Democrats can **** interns in the Oval Office, but the second a Republican says "watermelon" the media gyrates into frenzied oblivion. Republican in the White House in the 2000s, the leadership is compared to Hitler, and nary a peep is heard by the media of these portrayals. A Black man in the White House, and when anyone offers sane opposition to his policies, they are labeled racists while Democrats can be racist and aren't held to the same standard.

Once bitten, thrice shy. We've learned. If we take the high road, nothing will change. In fact, it will get worse. Sometimes you have to play the game your opponent plays until things change. That is sadly where we are.

The answer is they shouldn't. Let's all just roll around in horseshit till the end of time.

This is the bed leadership and our media has laid for us.

This is why Trump is so popular. Someone on our side who will play by your rules. Only half of us can clearly see why.
 
Getting back to important issues at hand. I still can't for the life of me imagine this pinhead is actually gonna be on the ballot in November. You poor conservative souls deserve better.


Unconsciously admits it's all about party first, country second. In that case you poor liberals deserve better than Clinton too.
 
Unconsciously admits it's all about party first, country second. In that case you poor liberals deserve better than Clinton too.

Ironic you should say that because if the "non-politician" Trump was running 3rd party, he wouldn't be anywhere near as popular as he is as a Republican.

Voters like Del cry "I hate them all!... But I'm sure as he'll not voting for a 3rd party."
 
So Vanguard is black. Wow. Fooled me, sounds like a flaming white liberal to the T.
 
Just like the thread where SV admits to wanting to force his daughter (when she's 14) to go on the pill and **** whoever she wants, he disappears. Please let's not feed the bear anymore.

As for Tibs- yes we disagree, but he has proven to be nothing short of a gentleman and a nice guy. I applaud him for standing up for his beliefs while not being an *******.
 
Right or wrong, this is the frustration out there, and why Trump is where he is. People are just flat out sick and tired of the double standard. I am not saying it is right, but that is one of the real driving forces here. You are, with that statement, acknowledging a double standard exists.

I think part of that SV mentality is fueled from the same sources that a lot of others get their angst from ....ideology forcing the fact that choices have to be made and there is a line drawn and the other side of the line is wrong regardless of argument.

One example would be.......

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Anybody jump into yur mind here ? Maybe more than a couple people ?
 
Ironic you should say that because if the "non-politician" Trump was running 3rd party, he wouldn't be anywhere near as popular as he is as a Republican.

Voters like Del cry "I hate them all!... But I'm sure as he'll not voting for a 3rd party."

That's a valid point, but there are a couple factors unique in this election to take into account. Remember Trump isn't a career politician, and Republicans today are fed up with Republicans more than ever. For the first time people aren't voting for Trump just because he's got an R after his name.. I've met democrats who are voting for Trump, I've met people who have never voted voting for Trump.
Who knows, he may have done very well running as third party, which I believe at one time he considered.
 
Ironic you should say that because if the "non-politician" Trump was running 3rd party, he wouldn't be anywhere near as popular as he is as a Republican.

Voters like Del cry "I hate them all!... But I'm sure as he'll not voting for a 3rd party."

The 3rd party candidates are politicians too! Gary Johnson is just a Republican, just like all the other Republicans. He's been in politics since 1995. Just because he changed the (R) to a (L) doesn't mean anything.

I've said this back on page 100 or something or other of this thread: Donald Trump is the closest we've all seen an independent get to the White House. And he did it the ONLY WAY possible: by infiltrating a political party first and then divide and conquer. First he conquered the Republicans and now he only has the Democrats to beat (which he still can by the way).

An independent running against the resources/money of both parties at the same time a lost cause. And it's a waste of my vote.

And yes, I voted a protest vote for Obama in 2008 because I was so disgusted with McCain's selection of Sarah Palin. And yes, I voted for Mitt Romney in 2012 but not because I liked him. Only because I didn't like what Obama was doing to the country.

I think almost all of the votes in my lifetime have just been the lesser of two evils. If I had voted Johnson in 2012 that wouldn't make any different.

Voting for Trump NOW could make a difference. It really could. In the short term maybe it's not great for the country. I don't expect Trump to change things all that much in Washington. But the change will come from the fact INDEPENDENT voices are now relevant to the conversation. Parties will mean less (which is really what we need the most). The Super Pacs and billionaires will mean less.

All those things are worth voting for SO MUCH. Everyone should be voting Trump just for that. Voting for Trump is like weeding the garden. It will expose the weeds and maybe some will get pulled in the process.

I know what comes out of Trump's mouth isn't all pleasant. But remember the foundation:

1. All Politicians are worse! All politicians are just as immoral. All are just as racist. All have less interest in the people then they do themselves. Just because they are smooth talkers doesn't change this fact!
2. Trump winning will expose the true enemies of the State. Those that don't care about a Republic or Democracy and instead believe in the Oligarchy they have created. Once exposed, we will know who to elect out of office once and for all.
3. Trump winning will weaken both political parties and allow for elected officials to vote what they BELIEVE in rather than always along party lines (which is a joke). Trump being elected will prove you don't have to vote along party lines to be RE-ELECTED. That is the true change we need right now in the country.

Those are things worth voting for even if the package it comes in is wrapped in ****-stained newspaper.

Please... just vote Trump and start the real revolution this country so desperately needs.
 
Hillary Clinton 'secures Democratic nomination' - AP

Clinton has delegates to win Dem nomination, AP reports; Sanders questions tally


Fight Crazy Bernie, fight!
 
shouldnt that be in the Crooked Hitlary thread, Spike Lee?
 
Hillary Clinton 'secures Democratic nomination' - AP

Clinton has delegates to win Dem nomination, AP reports; Sanders questions tally


Fight Crazy Bernie, fight!

This is very curious timing.
 
shouldnt that be in the Crooked Hitlary thread, Spike Lee?

no - the libtards are too afraid of my wrath to go there - and everybody keeps the trolls going here by jacking them off so I will post in both threads until further notice


This is the General Election thread now - Trump and Hillary are the main event.
 
The fact you called me son 4-5 times in your post. Unless you're an 80 year old man with white, curly hairs growing out of your ******* ...

Tibs, wow, you just burned that horrible image into my brain. It's like my brain stared at the sun.

Make it stop!!
 
but I'll still make room for Bernie threads



Sanders’ bigoted appointees endanger Clinton’s election


For many years now support for Israel has been a rare point of bipartisan consensus in an increasingly polarized political climate.

Bernie Sanders apparently seems determined to undermine that consensus.

Sanders has demonstrated a consistent bias against the nation-state of the Jewish people and surrounded himself with foreign-policy “experts” who often describe Israel as an apartheid state, and have repeatedly accused the IDF of committing war crimes.

Sanders has clearly absorbed some of this rhetoric, as demonstrated in a series of recent interviews, in which he grossly overstated the number of Palestinian civilian deaths in Operation Protective Edge, and accused Israel of using disproportionate force in response to Hamas’ rocket attacks.

Sanders claims that he wants Democrats to embrace a more “balanced approach” to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but his appointment of James Zogby and Cornel West to the Democratic Platform Committee suggests anything but. Indeed, both Zogby and West are notorious for espousing policy positions that are extremely critical of Israel, and for using rhetoric that sometimes borders on anti-Semitic

Zogby, for example, has frequently used provocative and even bigoted language when commentating on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He has compared the plight of the Palestinian people to that of the Jews during the Holocaust. He has described Gaza as “the world’s largest concentration camp,” and has repeatedly accused the Israeli government of perpetrating crimes against humanity.

Zogby, however, seems like a moderate in comparison to West, whose frequent diatribes against Israel at times speaks to a propensity for borderline anti-Semitic stereotypes.

According to West, for example, the Iraq War was caused by “the close relationship between American imperial elites and Israeli political officials.” He has repeatedly accused Israel of killing Palestinian babies – an allegation that echoes historic attacks on Jews for “blood libel” – and frequently claims that Israel is deliberately seeking to annihilate the Palestinian people.


http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Sanders-bigoted-appointees-endanger-Clintons-election-456005
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So Bernie hates Israel too, not surprising, lots of self-loathing Jews in this country
 
HA HA! BERNIE SCUM GOING TO JAIL!


Donald Trump in San Jose: Police plan to arrest people involved in attacks at rally


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SAN JOSE -- Police have identified and plan to arrest suspects involved in the violence that ensued after the Donald Trump rally last week, authorities said Monday.

Investigators have been reviewing witness statements and video evidence that may lead to the arrests of people involved in the violence that broke out between protesters and supporters at the Trump rally Thursday, according to a news release from San Jose police.

About 400 protesters showed up outside the convention center Tuesday, and some clashed with Trump supporters leaving the rally. Several videos show Trump supporters being egged, punched and kicked.

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_29985412/donald-trump-san-jose-police-plan-arrest-people
 
A mutiny is brewing on the Trump train...

“There’ll come a time when the love of country will trump hatred of Hillary”: Lindsey Graham tries to convince Republicans to dump Trump
http://www.salon.com/2016/06/07/the..._tries_to_convince_republicans_to_dump_trump/

Newt Gingrich, one of Donald Trump’s strongest supporter, has already come out forcefully against the presumptive GOP nominee’s continued attacks against a federal judge, calling it “inexcusable.” So, it should come as no surprise that one of Trump’s most vocal detractors, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, is jumping at the opportunity to call on his fellow Republicans to ditch the Trump train.

“If anybody was looking for an off-ramp, this is probably it,” Graham told the New York Times on Monday, calling Trump’s attacks on the American-born judge presiding over a pair of Trump University scam cases “the most un-American thing from a politician since Joe McCarthy.”

According to the Times, Trump’s one-time rival “urged Republicans who have backed Mr. Trump to rescind their endorsements.”

“There’ll come a time when the love of country will trump hatred of Hillary,” Graham told the Times, relaying the message to his conservative colleagues.

Although the outspoken Trump critic has previously said that he refuses to support either Trump or Clinton in the general election, he did tell CNN’s Dana Bash in May that he would cease attacking the Republicans’ candidate after what he described as a “cordial, pleasant phone conversation” with Trump last month.

Trump’s latest controversial comments were apparently too much to keep Graham silent any longer.
 
Trump's behavior threatens his nomination
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...2442-trumps-behavior-threatens-his-nomination

The behavior of the GOP's supposed nominee threatens his nomination at the Republican convention.

1. On May 3, Donald Trump effectively became the GOP nominee. Since then, he has not grown as a candidate nor has his campaign evolved into anything close to a general-election- ready political machine.

2. To the contrary, Trump is deteriorating as a candidate.

3. He screams into the microphone at public rallies.

4. He tweets incessantly at all hours of the day and night.

5. He twice excoriated Gov. Susana Martinez, the two-term Republican governor of New Mexico who also happens to be chair of the Republican Governor's Association.

6. Then, in an apparent reversal, he said he "respects" her and that a meeting is in the works.

7. And then he has used his position as the putative GOP nominee to campaign against the federal judge presiding over his Trump University civil lawsuit.

8. A question: why is the Republican presidential nominee spending time on a civil lawsuit at all? Why isn't this — and a lot of other business stuff — being handled by others while The Donald focuses solely on his campaign?

9. Why is he taking time in July to go open a golf course in Scotland?

10. And as for his campaign, reports from inside indicate a sense of panic amid vicious infighting, with only two aides having face time with the candidate.

11. Morale is reportedly low; they are having trouble hiring good people to flesh out a national campaign.

12. The staff inside has the same day-to-day fear that other Republicans have: What is Trump going to say today?

13. Unlike most campaigns, which plan a "message of the day," with Trump it's whatever comes out his mouth at any moment.

14. Here is what MSNBC is reporting:

Republicans working to elect Trump describe a bare-bones effort debilitated by infighting, a lack of staff to carry out basic functions, minimal coordination with allies and a message that’s prisoner to Trump's momentary whims.

"Bottom line, you can hire all the top people in the world, but to what end? Trump does what he wants," a source close to the campaign said."

15. Now, let me ask you this: What is a political party?

16. It is a collection of individuals who share a general political philosophy, including nominated candidates for public office, and they all join together to try to run the government according to that philosophy.

17. The current Republican Party is a total mess. They have a nominee in Trump who has legitimately earned the 1,237-plus delegates to be the presidential nominee.

18. But most of the other nominees for the Senate, House and other offices are scared to death every time Trump opens his mouth.

19. They have no idea what he is going to say — or how they are going to have to react to it.

20. Trump does not talk to anyone; nor does he listen.

21. Instead, he watches TV and then criticizes anyone who dares to critique him.

22. The case of Judge Gonzalo Curiel, the judge handling the Trump University case, has thrown all these other GOP candidates into a sense of panic.

23. Look at the following from The Washington Post:

Republican leaders who spent the past month reluctantly hitching their horses to Trump are realizing that he might be marching the party over a cliff after all. A growing number of GOP heavyweights fear that Trump's spate of hostile remarks towards and about minorities have imperiled his campaign, costing him a five-week head start on Clinton that they hoped would be used to build party unity ahead of the general election. ... Concerns have increased as Trump continues to furiously peddle his assertion that the Latino judge overseeing the Trump University fraud case should recuse himself because of his "Mexican heritage."

24. On last Friday, June 2, the new Reuters-Ipsos poll of likely general election voters showed a surprising result: likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton at 46.5 percent and Trump at 35 percent. If this is not an outlier — if, indeed, Trump is in decline due to his recent behavior — then things between now and Cleveland in July are going to become dicey for The Donald.

25. You will start to read leaks of Republicans musing that "we are committing political suicide if we keep going down this road."

26. Many of the delegates that are legally "pledged" to Trump are in fact not Trump acolytes — they are party people.

27. It is entirely possible that they will begin to explore ways to get out of their obligation to vote on the first and/or second ballot for Trump.

28. All this is predicated on Trump continuing the downward spiral he's put himself in.

29. It is also possible that he will figure out that things are not working, and will self-correct; if so, he will indeed be officially nominated on July 21.

30. With six weeks to go until the GOP convention in Cleveland, it is up to Donald Trump: He must either pull himself together and lead the Republican Party in a responsible manner, or else be prepared to have a major mutiny on his hands.
 
Yep. And again Tibs I ask you.

Are they not ALL politicians that are complaining about Trump? And are not ALL politicians the scum of the earth that lie to the American people for their own political gains and vote only among party lines to the detriment of America? Are not the "leaks" and "sources" you quote above all from inside the Washington Beltway? Are they not motivated to protect their golden idol and sacred cash cow they have created at the expense of the American public?

Why should I care what these people say or think? They have all broken their vow of service in my opinion. Many, many times over.

For them to "complain" about Trump or leak "false concern" is just another reason we MUST vote him as president. To shake their Oligarchy to its core and root out the infestation that has permeated our political process. To tell them they don't tell us who to vote for or who they are willing to work with, we tell them.
 
Hillary Clinton 'secures Democratic nomination' - AP

This is very curious timing.


You mean Hillary and the media deliberately timed this announcement to suppress voter turnout in California?

Bernie thugs must be seething mad...RIOT!
 
A mutiny is brewing on the Trump train...

“There’ll come a time when the love of country will trump hatred of Hillary”: Lindsey Graham tries to convince Republicans to dump Trump
http://www.salon.com/2016/06/07/the..._tries_to_convince_republicans_to_dump_trump/

But the simple fact is this: The Republicans have no alternate candidate who would have remotely the name-recognition and support that Trump does. Also, if the Republicans boot Trump after he won the nomination fair and square, then his millions of supporters - including a lot of voters whom he brought to the fray - will never vote for an alternate candidate. They just won't.

On the other side is a career politician flush with bribe, err, donation money and who would be facing criminal charges, but for the fact the chief law enforcement officer is never going to indict her.

This election is just ... wow.
 
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