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Trump - Make America Great Again!

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warriors42 said:
Who gives a **** how he got his money. Most of the rich in this country got their money from family, look at the rum runners, (Kennedy's). There was a time in this country that an immigrant could come her and get rich with hard work, that was actually why they did come here, not now; now they come for the free ****. My point is that there is so much old money in this country that was made in the early 1900's and passed on it's not funny. Why should Trump be under fire for his father fulfilling the American dream? isn't that why people wanted to come here?
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I don't give a **** how he got it. My response was to person that insinuated I was wrong to conclude that Trump isn't smart enough to be POTUS based simply on all of the stupid **** that comes out of his mouth on pretty much a daily basis.... the logic being that if a person says stupid stuff all the time, it is more probable than not that the person saying all of the stupid stuff is indeed... stupid... and, therefore, not exactly the guy you want running the country. This person evidently felt that my assessment of Trump was incorrect based on the fact that he, Trump, is a very successful business man and couldn't possibly be as dumb as I make him out to be because it would be impossible for a stupid person to achieve the level of success that The Donald has achieved. Normally I would agree this sentiment, but I believe in Trump's case that it was his father's money, connections, influence, and establishment in the business of real estate development that made Donald Trump what he is today. Basically he was handed the reigns to a horse that was already in a full gallop.
 
RollRed said:
I don't give a **** how he got it. My response was to person that insinuated I was wrong to conclude that Trump isn't smart enough to be POTUS based simply on all of the stupid **** that comes out of his mouth on pretty much a daily basis.... the logic being that if a person says stupid stuff all the time, it is more probable than not that the person saying all of the stupid stuff is indeed... stupid... and, therefore, not exactly the guy you want running the country. This person evidently felt that my assessment of Trump was incorrect based on the fact that he, Trump, is a very successful business man and couldn't possibly be as dumb as I make him out to be because it would be impossible for a stupid person to achieve the level of success that The Donald has achieved. Normally I would agree this sentiment, but I believe in Trump's case that it was his father's money, connections, influence, and establishment in the business of real estate development that made Donald Trump what he is today. Basically he was handed the reigns to a horse that was already in a full gallop.
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For one thing, Trump built a FAR bigger company than his father had. For example, it's a much smaller scale but at the funeral home where I work we have five locations. Three of them were owned by the same family for over a hundred years and were very successful. Problem was that the last generation were dipshits who couldn't run a business and didn't want to work, so they had to sell. Second, I know a number of rich folks who are pretty crude. In Trump's case a lot of that is just New York City attitude.
 
I mentioned it before and the media was all over it after the debate about Trump sort of saying he didn't pay much in taxes and that he is "smart" for doing so. They are pounding him already as I said they would. Everyone and I mean everyone takes every deduction they can find to pay as little in taxes as they can. If he releases his taxes and paid anything less than the full percentage based on his base income, the media will try to destroy him for it. And, if he was able to pay close to nothing (legally because he has been audited every year), it will be non-stop and front page news until the election. They did it when Romney paid a low percentage because his income was all from capital gains and they will do it even more so against Trump. They have already started.
 
TDX27 said:
I mentioned it before and the media was all over it after the debate about Trump sort of saying he didn't pay much in taxes and that he is "smart" for doing so. They are pounding him already as I said they would. Everyone and I mean everyone takes every deduction they can find to pay as little in taxes as they can. If he releases his taxes and paid anything less than the full percentage based on his base income, the media will try to destroy him for it. And, if he was able to pay close to nothing (legally because he has been audited every year), it will be non-stop and front page news until the election. They did it when Romney paid a low percentage because his income was all from capital gains and they will do it even more so against Trump. They have already started.
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Taking deductions is racist.
 
21STEELERS21 said:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?...2a3c0cf02341305c389a31388e21d0beH0&ajaxhist=0

This chart shows you why the United States can't return to 3 to 4% growth rates. For the first time in our history, from 2010 thru the mid 2030's we are experiencing zero to negative labor
force growth rates because the largest generation in our history is retiring. Currently approx. 10,000 people are retiring each day. Over the next several decades more people will be leaving the work force than will be entering. If the next President just keeps the current pace of job growth going, by 2020, the unemployment rate will be well below 3%. To make matters worse
more Americans are taking jobs outside the United States, than any time before, further reducing the labor force available inside our borders.

The funny thing is, we need to reform our immigration policies to let many more people in. In healthcare alone we need to add millions of workers to support the aging baby boom.
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so if you have 10,000 people retiring per day, as you suggest, and we're unable to grow our economy and are becoming negative... could you tell the class how importing 100k+ immigrants with zero skills, zero english communication ability and even less education will help the economy? we'd all like to see that.
 
warriors42 said:
Who gives a **** how he got his money. Most of the rich in this country got their money from family, look at the rum runners, (Kennedy's). There was a time in this country that an immigrant could come her and get rich with hard work, that was actually why they did come here, not now; now they come for the free ****. My point is that there is so much old money in this country that was made in the early 1900's and passed on it's not funny. Why should Trump be under fire for his father fulfilling the American dream? isn't that why people wanted to come here?
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Money is the only thing seperating Trump from Joe the Plummer.
 
and, I've asked this before...

Trump was given a loan from his father when he was what 21-22? Yes, it was a million bucks or so.
consider this, though... at the age of 21-22, what would YOU have done with a million bucks? partied like a ******* rock star most likely.
instead, Trump used that to build his wealth. and give jobs to people in the process. how many companies has he got right now? more than anyone on this board. probably more than the combination of all those on this board. he likely employs a **** ton of people, too. and those employees are quite obviously not all white or we'd have heard about that well before he decided to try to be President.

on the other side...
Hillary claims she and ******* Billy Blythe were broke when they left the white house. Hillary never lies, so we can take this for 100% truth. Now, she's got a pretty vast fortune. In what, 16 years? Looking at the Clinton Foundation, that shiny beacon of wholesomeness, we can see where it accepts money. Yet we do not dare question how Hillary receives her money.

how ******* interesting.
 
Trump created value and jobs as he made his money. Hillary's money came from selling access and influence to the likes of Goldman Sachs and UBS in form of ridiculous "speaking fees", and of course via the Clinton Foundation.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
Trump created value and jobs as he made his money. Hillary's money came from selling access and influence to the likes of Goldman Sachs and UBS in form of ridiculous "speaking fees", and of course via the Clinton Foundation.
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Exactly. She never had an actual product to sell to make money. She did it through corruption by whoring out her position as Secretary of State.
 
She has repeatedly sold out our country to the highest bidder. The administration covering for her is the icing on the death of America cake. Let them eat cake ... indeed.
 
Hildabeast plan? Tax tax tax spend spend spend and having nothing to show for it...well more debt. Then she will ask for more. It never ends until the majority of your year is spent working for the state...whooohoo
 
No, Trump is nothing at all like Hitler.

Shocking video of Trump explaining his dangerous theory that people like him have superior genes
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...-like-him-have-superior-genes?detail=facebook



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Tibs said:
No, Trump is nothing at all like Hitler.
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Oh for crying out loud ... look, Hillary is vastly flawed. She is driven by self-interest.

But I don't compare her to Stalin or Mao (despite the wardrobe similarities) or Kim Jong Il or Hitler or whoever because that is bat-**** crazy.

Trump has enough character flaws that actually exist. Comparing him to Hitler is just weak.

Finally, I am done with the personal attacks on Republican candidates. For the love of God, Democrats 4 years ago called Mitt Romney a sexist, a homophobe and on and on, and he is one of the most decent human beings ever to run for public office.
 
Steeltime said:
Trump has enough character flaws that actually exist. Comparing him to Hitler is just weak.
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Ok, first please explain his comments on eugenics. These are his own words, his own thoughts. Nobody's spinning this in any direction, nor is it taken out of context.

Once your done with that, then please explain the difference between Trump's beliefs and those of Hitler and the Third Reich when it comes to genetic superiority. Thanks
 
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Only a moron doesn't believe that genes have a massive influence on all kinds of individual capabilities.
 
Which candidate called the KKK leader a "great guy" and was mentored by Saul Alinsky?
 
CharlesDavenport said:
Only a moron doesn't believe that genes have a massive influence on all kinds of individual capabilities.
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That's not the question here, of course everyone believes that to some extent. But it's how far you take that type of thinking that becomes a problem. Only a moron doesn't understand that.

This May Be The Most Horrible Thing That Donald Trump Believes
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-eugenics_us_57ec4cc2e4b024a52d2cc7f9

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has offered a litany of racist comments, which it turns out may be rooted in his deeper belief in the inherent superiority of some people ― and not others.

The Frontline documentary “The Choice,” which premiered this week on PBS, reveals that Trump agrees with the dangerous and abusive theory of eugenics.

Trump’s father instilled in him the idea that their family’s success was genetic, according to Trump biographer Michael D’Antonio.

“The family subscribes to a racehorse theory of human development,” D’Antonio says in the documentary. “They believe that there are superior people and that if you put together the genes of a superior woman and a superior man, you get a superior offspring.”

The Huffington Post dug back through the archives and found numerous examples of Trump suggesting that intellect and success are purely genetic qualities and that having “the right genes” gave him his “very good brain.”
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Again, I'll ask you the same: Explain the difference between Trump's beliefs and those of Hitler and the Third Reich when it comes to genetic superiority.
 
Tibs said:
Ok, first please explain his comments on eugenics. These are his own words, his own thoughts. Nobody's spinning this in any direction, nor is it taken out of context.
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Given what I have seen from The Donald, I suspect that when he discussed about "eugenics," he thought he was talking about freezing guys, and when the discussion turned to "euthanasia," The Donald believed the discussion was about kids in Japan.
 
Yuge difference, having to do with final solutions and whatnot. He's not suggesting that we put all the liberals down or anything.

Only people who are not superior take issue with this language.
 
Tibs said:
The Huffington Post dug back through the archives and found numerous examples of Trump suggesting that intellect and success are purely genetic qualities and that having “the right genes” gave him his “very good brain.”
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Again, I'll ask you the same: Explain the difference between Trump's beliefs and those of Hitler and the Third Reich when it comes to genetic superiority.
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Jesus, Tibs ...

(1) Of course Trump is correct that his genetic make-up played a large role in his intelligence. The truth of the matter is that dumb people have dumb kids, and highly intelligent people have highly intelligent kids. Intelligence is just one factor in success, and is of course not dispositive.

(2) Hitler suggested that certain races - blacks, for example - where inherently inferior to whites. Trump never said anything remotely like this.

(3) Hitler further stated that committing genocide of "inferior" races was not only permitted, but the preferred way to proceed. Trump never said anything remotely like this.

(4) Hitler further argued that Germanic peoples - being the "chosen" - should breed voraciously to increase their population. Trump never said anything remotely like this.

Does that answer your question?
 
Tibs thinks a homeless meth addict has genetics that are equivalent to Bill Gates.
 
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