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For all we hear, the bottom line is Trump isn't going to close the deal. He's crumbling under the pressure.

God I want a real conservative that isn't religious in my lifetime........

And the last thing you want in a President is someone who crumbles under pressure.

Bill Maher has done a lot to point out the craziness in ALL religions. I've seen a lot of it in my Christian relatives and neighbors. Unfortunately, not being religious works against a conservative's popularity.
 
Hilary won but only because she did better later. Trump won the first half of the debate but lost his composure as the debate went on... and apparently still has yet to regain it.

Trump won the first 20 or so minutes out of 95 still not too good. Now he is in meltdown mode and regressing to name calling and things that do not matter. His campaign should be locking him up.
 
Trump doesn't know the policy stuff nearly as well as Hilldog or as well as he should. But, Hillary went personal countless times in the debate and Trump held back. I am guessing he held back because of his team telling him to. My guess is he will be in full attack mode in the second debate and he should be. Nothing is off limits anymore based on what Hillary and the Dems have been doing and saying. I hope he makes her cry during the debate.
 
Attack her policies and things related to being president..her emails, benghazi, etc etc...Attacking bill clinton and a former miss universe will get him no where. If he wants to bring her treatment of women into things throw up some ads with witnesses. The debate stage / twitter is not the place to do it.

He can not stand being attacked and throws a tantrum when it happens. If he can not handle the pressure or criticism what will happen if he becomes president?
 
Attack her policies and things related to being president..her emails, benghazi, etc etc...Attacking bill clinton and a former miss universe will get him no where. If he wants to bring her treatment of women into things throw up some ads with witnesses. The debate stage / twitter is not the place to do it.

He can not stand being attacked and throws a tantrum when it happens. If he can not handle the pressure or criticism what will happen if he becomes president?

Ms. Universe was dumb but if she can attack him on how he treats women, then how Hillary treated Bill's women is fair game. It shows how she truly could care less about women's issues.
 
Ms. Universe was dumb but if she can attack him on how he treats women, then how Hillary treated Bill's women is fair game. It shows how she truly could care less about women's issues.

Except Trump is a twice divorced adulterer who is on record saying all kinds of sexist, misogynistic ****. He'll come of as hypocritical at best.

Oh yeah, Alicia Machado is hot! Fat or not.
 
me too. how come trump doesn't pay taxes?

And so it begins...

Bombshell report: New York Times reveals Trump hasn’t paid taxes for two decades
http://usuncut.com/politics/donald-trump-may-not-paid-taxes-18-years/

Tax records recently published by the New York Times show that Donald Trump may have effectively canceled out paying taxes on income earned over nearly two decades.

In 1995, Trump declared a $915.7 million loss on his tax returns. The Times estimated that amount of losses written off by the GOP presidential nominee would be enough to cover 18 years of combined income for the billionaire real estate magnate — including the $50,000 to $100,000 Trump was paid for each episode of NBC’s The Apprentice, and the $45 million he made between 1995 and 2009 when Trump headed up the company incorporated specifically to manage his properties in Atlantic City, New Jersey.

The leaked tax returns also show that Trump took full advantage of tax loopholes made available to the wealthy, as he declared only $6,108 in wages, salaries, and tips, but declared roughly $7.4 million in income generated in interest, which is taxed at a preferential rate in comparison to actual labor.

The emergence of Trump’s tax records may shed some light on why the GOP nominee is breaking decades of precedent by steadfastly refusing to make his tax returns public. During Monday night’s presidential debate at Hofstra University, Hillary Clinton’s criticized her opponent’s refusal to release his tax returns as evidence that he was hiding something major, like not paying federal income taxes in a given year. Trump cavalierly responded that such a revelation “makes [him] smart,” not a tax cheat.

Trump has kept his tax records closely guarded, and a lawyer representing the real estate mogul threatened the Times with “prompt initiation of legal action,” claiming the newspaper’s publication of Trump’s tax returns without his consent is in violation of the law. The Times maintains the tax return was mailed to the newspaper with Trump Tower as the return address.

The Times verified the tax returns’ authenticity by having them examined by Jack Mitnick, a certified public accountant currently living in Florida, whose name was listed as the preparer on Trump’s New Jersey tax return. In explaining that the tax return was “legit,” Mitnick explained that on line 18, the tax preparation software he used for Trump’s tax return didn’t allow for a nine-figure loss, meaning that he had to manually add in the “-91” before “5,729,293,” to make the total loss show as “-915,729,293.”

Tax experts interviewed by the Times said the staggering loss is common for wealthy families, who spread their wealth through various partnerships, S corps, and other legal entities. The “net operating loss” on a tax return is the combined result of everything from real estate depreciation and business expenses to loss from the sale of business assets and operating losses coming from every existing legal entity owned by the person filing the tax return.
 
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Except Trump is a twice divorced adulterer who is on record saying all kinds of sexist, misogynistic ****. He'll come of as hypocritical at best.

Oh yeah, Alicia Machado is hot! Fat or not.

He won't come off as hypocritical at all. When at one podium you have a woman who pays women less than they make in the open market, destroys women who her husband raped and/or abused and used, and at the other you have Trump, you don't end up in anything anyone will perceive as hypocritical. You end up with a situation where the viewers say "both of these people are detestable in the same way - one the pot, the other the kettle, both are black."

You're stupid! No you're dumb!

Get it out, get it over with, move on.
 
And the tax thing is exactly why income tax doesnt work... With great accountants the system allows itself to be legally circumvented... Which is also why taxing the rich to pay for xyz is a pipe dream for the foolish... No one with real money is paying more than 11% if that....
 
And the tax thing is exactly why income tax doesnt work... With great accountants the system allows itself to be legally circumvented... Which is also why taxing the rich to pay for xyz is a pipe dream for the foolish... No one with real money is paying more than 11% if that....

Who DOESN'T take advantage of every loophole? Those pissed off middle class people have NO right to ***** about loopholes when I can guarantee they are taking deductions and all that to get as much money back as possible.
 
It's getting harder and harder for me to pull the lever for Trump (TIBS would be proud of me!).

He's got her beat if he just stays on message and acts rationally but if he can't do it with 30 days left in the election he never will be able to do it and I am finding it harder and harder for my conscience to vote for him.

This isn't the year folks..... an independent came and went and we were SO CLOSE from getting out of the cycle of fat cat republican and democrat rule and possibly re-establishing the branches of power in our government but it's not going to happen. Clinton is going to win.

For all we hear, the bottom line is Trump isn't going to close the deal. He's crumbling under the pressure.

God I want a real conservative that isn't religious in my lifetime........


Why? I will just never understand why a conservative Christian is more of an enemy to some people than a Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. Also, I don't know if the two things can be mutually exclusive. I think to be conservative there is a natural religious component.
 
And the last thing you want in a President is someone who crumbles under pressure.

Bill Maher has done a lot to point out the craziness in ALL religions. I've seen a lot of it in my Christian relatives and neighbors. Unfortunately, not being religious works against a conservative's popularity.

What about all of the good those Christians do? Sure, there are some crazies, like everywhere. I do notice that people don't seem to get as worked up about the crazies on the other end of the spectrum, though. However, I don't think you can find a group, in general, that has been a greater force for good overall than you can Christians.
 
Who DOESN'T take advantage of every loophole? Those pissed off middle class people have NO right to ***** about loopholes when I can guarantee they are taking deductions and all that to get as much money back as possible.

The problem is the system is broken. Alot of middle class live paycheck to paycheck and are paying more than billionaires / millionaires in taxes. Trump is right it is good business to take advantage of the system, but he should be upfront about it. Also i find it hard to believe he will be closing these loopholes. He will be costing himself or his family millions of dollars. If he does close them businesses are going to be paying more in taxes which kinda goes against keeping the businesses in America. If he wants to be honest and upfront release the tax returns and explain them.
 
The problem is the system is broken. Alot of middle class live paycheck to paycheck and are paying more than billionaires / millionaires in taxes. Trump is right it is good business to take advantage of the system, but he should be upfront about it. Also i find it hard to believe he will be closing these loopholes. He will be costing himself or his family millions of dollars. If he does close them businesses are going to be paying more in taxes which kinda goes against keeping the businesses in America. If he wants to be honest and upfront release the tax returns and explain them.

It serves him no purpose to release his returns. None. No matter what is in there, it will be cast in a negative light by the press, HRC, even Republicans. He can't win on this even if it was found out he gave half of his fortune to charity. It would be the wrong charities.

I don't give a **** about his taxes. I don't care if he paid them or not. We have to stop this childish "it has to be fair" nonsense we should have learned better about in the 6th grade. The rich and powerful will always, always, always get away with what the common guy cannot, regardless of the system. In fact, it would be worse in other systems. At least in a capitalistic system, many of the people who take it to that level have done so because they were more talented or more driven. In other systems, most times it is whose *** you have sniffed. Just look at the Soviet Union historically.

If Hillary wins, she will talk a good game about "fair share" all the while giving her connections (huge corporations and the like that she/liberals like) the same pass they have always had.

So it comes down to which of these two do you think will make life a little better for you.
 
It serves him no purpose to release his returns. None. No matter what is in there, it will be cast in a negative light by the press, HRC, even Republicans. He can't win on this even if it was found out he gave half of his fortune to charity. It would be the wrong charities.

I don't give a **** about his taxes. I don't care if he paid them or not. We have to stop this childish "it has to be fair" nonsense we should have learned better about in the 6th grade.

Excellent points.

You are right, it serves him no purpose to release them. It also serves us no purpose to know what's in them.

Now if you throw out arguments to the latter (we need to know if he's paid taxes, if he's cheated on his returns, etc) then I'll ask you to apply that same rule equally and fairly towards Clinton. We need to know who the Clinton Foundation has gotten money from, what conflicts of interest those donations mean, what policies those donation may affect that put our nation at risk. Were taxes paid on those donations? We'd like a full run down of any fraud - did any of that money go from Saudi Arabia to the Clinton Foundation to the pockets of a major donor to the Clintons who needs certain policies enacted or programs supported? Did any of that money end up in Bill and Hilldog's bank accounts?

Yes, let's make it fair (that will NEVER happen with crooked DemocRATs controlling the media) and have them both expose 100% of their financials, across the board, back to say, the 1970s. I'm all for it. For just one side? No.
 
Excellent points.

You are right, it serves him no purpose to release them. It also serves us no purpose to know what's in them.

Now if you throw out arguments to the latter (we need to know if he's paid taxes, if he's cheated on his returns, etc) then I'll ask you to apply that same rule equally and fairly towards Clinton. We need to know who the Clinton Foundation has gotten money from, what conflicts of interest those donations mean, what policies those donation may affect that put our nation at risk. Were taxes paid on those donations? We'd like a full run down of any fraud - did any of that money go from Saudi Arabia to the Clinton Foundation to the pockets of a major donor to the Clintons who needs certain policies enacted or programs supported? Did any of that money end up in Bill and Hilldog's bank accounts?

Yes, let's make it fair (that will NEVER happen with crooked DemocRATs controlling the media) and have them both expose 100% of their financials, across the board, back to say, the 1970s. I'm all for it. For just one side? No.


Right. And another thing, if they want tax returns, let's see Hillary's from about 2009-2014 when she wasn't running for President. It is well known, all politicians do this, when they are running for office they make their returns that will come out the year they are running look more palatable to the public by moving money around and so on.
 
Boy the spin is strong on this one. Every goddamn candidate has released their returns but your darling Trump. You guys would love life in North Korea, living under Dear Leader.
 
Boy the spin is strong on this one. Every goddamn candidate has released their returns but your darling Trump. You guys would love life in North Korea, living under Dear Leader.

No spin. I truly do not give a **** what he paid in taxes. You can only take my word, but I don't give a **** what Hillary paid, either. Or Obama. Or Bush. At the end of the day, the rich and powerful will always get breaks. You have to know that. So what you are left with is deciding which candidate you think will make your life better. All the other **** is just noise.
 
John Kasich is lookin' realllll good now, huh neo-cons?


the ******* con man you picked is gonna get his **** lit up by a career Bilderberger.

nice.
 
Boy the spin is strong on this one. Every goddamn candidate has released their returns but your darling Trump. You guys would love life in North Korea, living under Dear Leader.

Yes, the investigations on the Clinton Foundation have been so transparent and thorough...speaking of living in North Korea...
 
Yes, the investigations on the Clinton Foundation have been so transparent and thorough...speaking of living in North Korea...

Always looking the other way, always rolling out excuses, always refusing to accept simple facts. Trump supporters are awesome, really.
 
Always looking the other way, always rolling out excuses, always refusing to accept simple facts. Trump supporters are awesome, really.
oh, come on Tibs, you can't possibly be a-ok with the Clinton Foundation receiving --- and accepting --- such large monetary gifts from foreign countries and foreign peoples.

look at the website....
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about

it's such a goddamn farce. they've eliminated any tie-in to Hillary. None. Other than to casually mention her in the name of it.

yet a couple months ago her face and name were plastered all over the goddamn site.

is this ok with you??
clinton-foundation-donors-get-big-weapons-deals.png


if so, you REALLY need to re-evaluate what your expectations are for the leader of this country. And, no, this was NOT a plug for Trump. Anti-Hillary all the way.
 
No I'm not okay with that Supe.

Now let's hear a single Trump supporter say they think Trump should do the right thing and release his tax returns like EVERY SINGLE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE HAS ALWAYS DONE.

I think the call to release his tax returns should come from Trump's supporters themselves, first and foremost. Why wouldn't you want your candidate to be transparent? Why wouldn't you want to be sure he doesn't have ties to illegitimate businesses and foreign entities? Why wouldn't you want to see if he paid his fair share of taxes? It's exactly what could give him a leg up on supposedly 'crooked' Hillary. Why not jump at the opportunity? But no, it's consistency brushed aside and ignored. I wonder why? Actually, I know exactly why. Because the fear is he's much more crooked than Hillary will ever be. That's the only logical explanation.
 
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