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This has got to be one of the most awkward and creepiest things you'll ever see. The whole time Trump must be thinking to himself, what the **** am I doing here? But you need the evangelical base to get behind you, so you grin and bear it. Good Lord, we're still a full year away till the election.

http://deadstate.org/evangelical-le...losed-door-prayer-session-awkwardness-ensues/

If you don’t want Donald Trump to be president, the odds may be stacked against you considering that some of the nation’s most prominent (and weirdest) religious leaders showed up to cast magic God spells upon the GOP candidate.

Although the gathering consisted of mostly evangelical Christian figures, the self-proclaimed “Jewish Jesus” Rabbi K. A. Schneider took an opportunity place his hand on Trump’s face and fire off a blessing – that didn’t sound all too Jewish. Either way, it was a moment that we all should thank Allah for allowing to be captured on video.

Gothamist gave a rundown of the who’s who in attendance:

Nativity scene lamenter Jan Crouch, Paula White, Agents of the Apocalypse author Dr. David Jeremiah, Charismatic Movement leader Kenneth Copland, Darlene Bishop, Kingdom Connection host Jentezen Franklin, Jewish Jesus Rabbi Schneider, Clarence McClendon, George “Demon in My Bedroom” Bloomer, Darrell Scott, Steve Munsey, RD Scott, Bishop Mark Burns and Lady Tomarra Burns.

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This has got to be one of the most awkward and creepiest things you'll ever see. The whole time Trump must be thinking to himself, what the **** am I doing here? But you need the evangelical base to get behind you, so you grin and bear it. Good Lord, we're still a full year away till the election.

http://deadstate.org/evangelical-le...losed-door-prayer-session-awkwardness-ensues/

If you don’t want Donald Trump to be president, the odds may be stacked against you considering that some of the nation’s most prominent (and weirdest) religious leaders showed up to cast magic God spells upon the GOP candidate.

Although the gathering consisted of mostly evangelical Christian figures, the self-proclaimed “Jewish Jesus” Rabbi K. A. Schneider took an opportunity place his hand on Trump’s face and fire off a blessing – that didn’t sound all too Jewish. Either way, it was a moment that we all should thank Allah for allowing to be captured on video.

Gothamist gave a rundown of the who’s who in attendance:

Nativity scene lamenter Jan Crouch, Paula White, Agents of the Apocalypse author Dr. David Jeremiah, Charismatic Movement leader Kenneth Copland, Darlene Bishop, Kingdom Connection host Jentezen Franklin, Jewish Jesus Rabbi Schneider, Clarence McClendon, George “Demon in My Bedroom” Bloomer, Darrell Scott, Steve Munsey, RD Scott, Bishop Mark Burns and Lady Tomarra Burns.


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Dr. David Jeremiah calls for strong African American Pastors to stand with Donald Trump. Kenneth Copeland prays, Paula White Prays then Jewish Jesus Rabbi Schneider gives an Abrahamic Jewish Blessing. Pastor Mark Burns
Posted by Tomarra Burns on Tuesday, September 29, 2015​
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More black people in that room than in Bernie's last arena speech.
 
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Good article by Peggy Noonan.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/shows-of-strength-from-trump-and-putin-1444347565



Shows of Strength From Trump and Putin
The GOP front-runner hasn’t started fading, and the Russian president seems in command.


By PEGGY NOONAN
Oct. 8, 2015 7:39 p.m. ET
261 COMMENTS
Thoughts on two strongmen:

Donald Trump has entered his second act. His polls, sometimes characterized as weakening, are in fact strong. As Bloomberg’s John Heilemann said on “Morning Joe,” if Jeb Bush had Mr. Trump’s numbers everyone would declare the race over.

This week Quinnipiac had Mr. Trump solidly leading his GOP rivals in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. A national poll from Reuters/Ipsos had Mr. Trump in the lead with 31%, followed by Ben Carson with 17%. Public Policy Polling had Mr. Trump holding steady nationwide since late August, coming in first at 27%. His support is ideologically broad—35% of tea-party voters and 29% of moderates, according to PPP. He did better among younger voters and among men (31%) than women (23%). Clever people once said of George H.W. Bush that he reminded women of their first husbands. I never thought so, but Mr. Trump would remind some women of a blustery first husband, or a loudmouth uncle holding forth at Thanksgiving while hogging the sweet potatoes.

He continues with high negatives. But for all the dopey, damaging dramas he’s gotten himself into the past few months he’s maintained his position. Imagine if he’d been disciplined.

The first act was “I’m Here and I’m Yuge.” Now Act II: “I Mean It and I’m Staying.” He has unveiled a tax plan and come forward as a family man with a seven-page spread in People. He’s emerged as a noninterventionist on the Mideast—“Russia wants to get rid of ISIS. We want to get rid of ISIS. . . . Let them get rid of ISIS. What the hell do we care?” He apparently has decided to stop certain media wars.

To me the virtue of his tax plan is that I can understand it. A friend said, “It’s a total rip-off of Jeb’s plan!” It probably is. But Trump explained Trump’s plan, so people paid attention, and Jeb explained Jeb’s, so they didn’t. Mr. Trump’s economic policies seem to come from indignation—the poor need a break, the rich have a racket. Jeb’s seem to come from a desire for good government. In the current climate indignation beats good government every time.

More than any candidate Mr. Trump has to hold on to what he has and grow out—steadily—from there. Everyone has to do that, but he most of all because he has to prove every day that he’s not a passing aberration, a wigged-out expression of voter rage.

Here is a mystery question. Mr. Trump has been the Republican front-runner for three months. The first voting, in Iowa, is in just more than three and a half months. If Mr. Trump does well in the early contests—if he retains his lead and it starts to look like he can really win the nomination—then at some point it will come down, sharply, to him versus the party establishment. And that establishment, such as it is, will presumably try to kill him. The question: What will that look like? We’ve never seen that before. What will it be to have a party establishment try to kill the guy who’s No. 1 in that party’s polls? Maybe they think they’ll have golden oppo, but opposition research doesn’t really work on Mr. Trump, mostly because no one has illusions of probity about him. His supporters don’t think he’s a sweet, sinless businessman. They love it that he’s not.

The wisdom now, and it’s not stupid, is that as time passes the field will narrow. More candidates will drop out, voters will begin to coalesce behind other front-runners, and suddenly one of them will be polling at 27% or 32%. Various powers will throw their weight behind front-runner No. 2 or 3 or 4. But this year has reminded us to expect the unexpected. Maybe not enough candidates will drop out to make a difference. Maybe the splintered field stays splintered. How then do you stop Mr. Trump? Maybe—again—only Trump stops Trump.

The second strongman is Vladimir Putin of Russia, who made a striking impression in a revealing 100-minute interview with Charlie Rose. It took place last month in Mr. Putin’s residence near Moscow, and ran Sept. 27 on “60 Minutes” and in its entirety on Mr. Rose’s PBS show. I speak frequently to those who know or have met Mr. Putin, and the Rose interview captured the individual the most insightful of them have described. Mr. Putin was confident in his command of information, clever, at times droll, sometimes insistent.

He posited himself as a friend of world stability. Russia is in Syria to keep it from becoming what Libya is, a nation in which “all the state institutions are disintegrated.” The Syrian government of Bashar Assad has “the one legitimate conventional army,” and “I want you and your audience to finally realize that no one except for the Assad army is fighting ISIS and other terrorist groups now in Syria.” U.S. efforts have been wanting: “It has to be said frankly this is a very low level of effectiveness. I’m not trying to be sarcastic here. I’m not trying to call someone out or to point fingers.”

Mr. Rose asked if Mr. Putin saw ISIS as a unique terrorist organization. “Well yes, it’s turned into a unique organization because it has become global. Indeed they have the aim to build a caliphate from Portugal to Pakistan.” They are not the jayvee team.

Is he exploiting a vacuum in American leadership? No, said Mr. Putin, he’s trying to prevent a vacuum where the government of Syria should be. “As soon as government agencies are destroyed in a given state . . . that’s when a power vacuum occurs. And at that moment it will be instantly filled by terrorists.”

Is Mr. Putin driven by a desire to have Russia play a bigger role in the world? “I’m proud of Russia, that’s true,” he said, but such pride is not an end in itself. Then an oblique slap at the U.S.: “But we don’t have any obsession with being a superpower in the international arena. We’re involved in only one thing, defending our fundamental interest.”

Mr. Rose, noting Mr. Putin had been in the KGB, said, “Someone in Russia told me there is no such thing as a former KGB man.”

“You know, not a single stage of our lives passes without a trace,” said Mr. Putin. “All this knowledge we acquire, all the experience, will always remains with us and we carry it further and will use it somewhere. Well, in a sense they are right.”

Asked what he thinks of President Obama, he deflected—coolly. “I don’t think I’m entitled to give any views regarding the president of the United States. . . . Our relations are businesslike. I believe that’s quite sufficient to comply with our functions.”

Do Mr. Obama’s foreign policy actions “reflect a weakness”?

“I don’t think so at all,” said Mr. Putin. “I don’t think that’s the case and I don’t intend to get involved in a domestic American skirmish.”

One got the impression he wished it understood that he doesn’t outfox weaklings, he only beats champs. It was in its way Trumpesque.
 
Tibs said:
But you need the evangelical base to get behind you,
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No you don't. Not any more. Fixing the economy and military and building a border wall will trump all that, so to speak.
 
Exploding lib heads alert!


Dan Rather: Donald Trump Could Be Our Next President

Veteran newsman Dan Rather says Donald Trump could be headed to the White House.

"I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility he gets elected"

"I said in the beginning he's not going to go away quickly. He isn't going to be the shooting star that goes away.

"Because whatever else you think of Donald Trump, he is smart, he's very television smart. Donald Trump certainly has a good shot at the nomination."

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/dan-rather-donald-trump-next-president/2015/10/12/id/695795/
 
21STEELERS21 said:
Trumps tax plan would drive interest rates thru the roof. The Chinese would not fund that amount of debt and they likely can't
afford too any longer.
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Please explain. I think you are mistaken. The Fed is more responsible for interest rates.

" In the United States interest rates are determined by the Federal Open Market Committee, which consists of the seven governors of the Federal Reserve Board and five Federal Reserve Bank presidents."

http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/03/112003.asp
 
IndySteel said:
Trump is going to get the union votes. That's huuuuuuuuuuuuuge! btw, **** unions.

http://conservativeintel.com/2015/10/01/tumpleadingasteamsterswantmeeting/
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IndySteel,

If this shoe drops Trump is the next POTUS! Union types might like Trump's tariff ideas which will allow USA based companies to compete better on a global scale, in addition to increasing the revenues without taxing USA citizens.

Union type voters break heavily Democratic. If they go to Trump, the electoral map shifts big time.

I've been watching Politics since the mid 1980. They ( Leftist media ) fear Trump more than anyone else I have seen. As well they should.
 
Coach said:
IndySteel,

If this shoe drops Trump is the next POTUS! Union types might like Trump's tariff ideas which will allow USA based companies to compete better on a global scale, in addition to increasing the revenues without taxing USA citizens.

Union type voters break heavily Democratic. If they go to Trump, the electoral map shifts big time.

I've been watching Politics since the mid 1980. They ( Leftist media ) fear Trump more than anyone else I have seen. As well they should.
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There is some heavy duty wishful thinking in this post.

1) Trump has no base. Period. The old school establishment that runs the party hates him, and he can't beat them as an independent.

2) He can't beat Hillary head to head. Blowing the Hispanic vote in favor of more right wingers who'll never vote for him anyway was a huge mistake. It makes him mathematically unelectable in several swing states.

3) Unions don't vote as a block, no matter whom they endorse. He may pick up some votes from an endorsement, but not enough to carry him to the white house. More like a trickle than a river.

Trump will not be President. If nominated, the Republican base simply will not turn out for him (as they wouldn't for a Mormon). If not nomitated he will split the Republican vote (ala Ross Perot) and hand the White House to HIllary.
 
Trump will not be President. If nominated, the Republican base simply will not turn out for him (as they wouldn't for a Mormon).

I beg to differ. This is a moving dynamic and it's a little too early to proclaim " will not" and might have already passed the "may not" and gone into the " could possibly happen " scenario

If not nominated he will split the Republican vote (ala Ross Perot) and hand the White House to HIllary.
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Wait, what..I thought he signed a guarantee, honest, cross my heart pledge to not run if he wasn't the nominee ? ( yes he did )
BTW, Hillary is very possibly in deep stuff, I wouldn't put any money on that outcome just yet.
 
Steel Vangaurd said:
There is some heavy duty wishful thinking in this post.

1) Trump has no base. Period. The old school establishment that runs the party hates him, and that's why conservatives like him.

2) He can't beat Hillary head to head. Blowing the Hispanic vote in favor of more right wingers who'll never vote for him anyway was a huge mistake. It makes him mathematically unelectable in several swing states.

Not so sure he's blown anything just yet....and I think you're mistaken as to whether or not "right wingers" will vote for him.

3) Unions don't vote as a block, no matter whom they endorse. He may pick up some votes from an endorsement, but not enough to carry him to the white house. More like a trickle than a river.

To some extent I agree....there are pragmatic, free thinking individuals within the union ranks. But by and large the unions possess a mob mentality when it comes to voting. The old days of voter intimidation and other underhanded tactics are now.....see seiu during recent elections. Either way unions are becoming less and less influential every day.

Trump will not be President. If nominated, the Republican base simply will not turn out for him (as they wouldn't for a Mormon). If not nomitated he will split the Republican vote (ala Ross Perot) and hand the White House to HIllary.
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Overall, you might end up being right, I don't know. I do think that if he doesn't have any major **** ups before the convention and his polling continues to either climb or stay level and he isn't the nominee a lot of conservatives either won't vote or will go 3rd party. They are sick and tired of the r's continually defining insanity through the process of shoving dem-lite rino's down everyone's throats.
 
Rod Farva said:
Overall, you might end up being right, I don't know. I do think that if he doesn't have any major **** ups before the convention and his polling continues to either climb or stay level and he isn't the nominee a lot of conservatives either won't vote or will go 3rd party. They are sick and tired of the r's continually defining insanity through the process of shoving dem-lite rino's down everyone's throats.
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I think if he is the nominee just as many will stay home. He's got the highest negatives among Republicans, and general election voters hate him even more.

And it cracks me up that you still see Trump as the antidote to Dem-lite RINOs. He's held the most liberal views of probably any Republican candidate, ever.
 
oneforthebus said:
I think if he is the nominee just as many will stay home. He's got the highest negatives among Republicans, and general election voters hate him even more.

And it cracks me up that you still see Trump as the antidote to Dem-lite RINOs. He's held the most liberal views of probably any Republican candidate, ever.
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Oh it's worse than that. As a celebrity mover and shaker, he's aligned with some of the most despised liberal donors. These relationships will come out during the general election and be hammered away at mercilessly.

Trump doesn't believe in anything. And while most politicians are shameless opportunists behind closed doors, most at least maintain the appearance of sincerity in public. Trump fails that test and as such doesn't strike voters as Presidential.
 
Trump doesn't do anything to damage his brand. A whooping from Hillary in the general election would kill his brand.
I expect he will find an excuse to bailout long before he is the nominee.
 
21STEELERS21 said:
Trump doesn't do anything to damage his brand. A whooping from Hillary in the general election would kill his brand.
I expect he will find an excuse to bailout long before he is the nominee.
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I expect Trump will be in his 2nd term before your best-selling book is on the shelves (1st edition).
 
oneforthebus said:
I think if he is the nominee just as many will stay home. He's got the highest negatives among Republicans, and general election voters hate him even more.

And it cracks me up that you still see Trump as the antidote to Dem-lite RINOs. He's held the most liberal views of probably any Republican candidate, ever.
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And it cracks me up that after all our time here you think I'm a Trump supporter (or even trust him). I'm a supporter of the RNC listening to their base......if the base wants Trump that's who it should be........the dem lite rino's to whom I referred are the Bush's, McCain's, etc. that have been foisted upon us despite the obvious resistance to them. If voters stay home they stay home......I'm tired of the RNC telling voters who they should want as the nominee.
 
Steel Vanguard There is some heavy duty wishful thinking in this post.
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1 ) In a small amount of time, Trump has built a lead over every Republican running and packs the house when he speaks. It is not in the media's interest to show Trump standing in front of huge crowds that dwarf what Clinton attracts, but that's the truth. In addition, I would argue Trump's base extends to people who usually votes Democrat. The middle class has fallen backward under Obama.

2 ) Hillary poll numbers are shrinking, and she's a flip-flopping liar. The Hispanic vote only really matters in a few states. Who says he can't beat Hillary.

3 ) Union voters vote for their own jobs and security. IF ( A BIG IF ) Trumps tariff and negotiation for trade plan resonates, he can pick up legions of voters, enough to tip the scales in many Northern Union states.

The Republican power brokers will crawl on glass to vote for anyone who opposes Clinton. If Trump wins IA and NH, he's going to roll in the south on super Tuesday. You'll see how fast they align to Trump if that happens. Bank on it!
 
Coach said:
1 ) In a small amount of time, Trump has built a lead over every Republican running and packs the house when he speaks. It is not in the media's interest to show Trump standing in front of huge crowds that dwarf what Clinton attracts, but that's the truth. In addition, I would argue Trump's base extends to people who usually votes Democrat. The middle class has fallen backward under Obama.

2 ) Hillary poll numbers are shrinking, and she's a flip-flopping liar. The Hispanic vote only really matters in a few states. Who says he can't beat Hillary.

3 ) Union voters vote for their own jobs and security. IF ( A BIG IF ) Trumps tariff and negotiation for trade plan resonates, he can pick up legions of voters, enough to tip the scales in many Northern Union states.

The Republican power brokers will crawl on glass to vote for anyone who opposes Clinton. If Trump wins IA and NH, he's going to roll in the south on super Tuesday. You'll see how fast they align to Trump if that happens. Bank on it!
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A lot of the Democrats' support is astroturfed, i.e. manufactured and not real.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
A lot of the Democrats' support is astroturfed, i.e. manufactured and not real.
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as are their votes.

headstones-democrat-voter-registration-fraud.jpg
 
Rod Farva said:
And it cracks me up that after all our time here you think I'm a Trump supporter (or even trust him). I'm a supporter of the RNC listening to their base......if the base wants Trump that's who it should be........the dem lite rino's to whom I referred are the Bush's, McCain's, etc. that have been foisted upon us despite the obvious resistance to them. If voters stay home they stay home......I'm tired of the RNC telling voters who they should want as the nominee.
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I misunderstood your post then, I apologize.

I sort of see this the opposite way though...Trump is just third in line of candidates who don't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected. He's just as much of a RINO as McCain or Romney, with the added special qualities of being a boorish jackass. He's totally alienated women and Hispanics, and young people consider him a big fat joke. I suspect he would drive more people to the polls to vote against him than for him.

If we learned nothing from the two Obama debacles it should have been that old white male voters can no longer carry elections in this country, and they are the only ones who are going to go for Trump in large numbers.

I can't continue being a member of a party that's going to shoot itself in the foot every 4 years. I will switch to independent if he is the nominee. I'm embarrassed that he's even being seriously considered. It just shows how low we've sunk.
 
I think Trump's main appeal is that he is not a politician, and he is loud and boisterous. I think people are tired of career politicians and will take nearly anyone not to have another one. Think about it. After propelling the Republicans to winning both houses of congress in consecutive elections, those same politicians showed their appreciation to the voters by doing absolutely nothing they said they were gonna do. That's an embarrassment. I would have felt better if they had just given me the finger.
 
They are giving you the finger, you just don't see it, because they've shoved it up the public's ***.
Most of them are in politics because it pays well. The rules let them raise money they can personally keep
when they decide not to run again.
 
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