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A very simple question to ask yourself

Trump invites the coal miners on a tour through the White House.

Obama invites thug rappers and the BLM thugs.

This is it in a nutshell. Millenials love that BLM and rappers were in the WH. Tom and Nancy from St. Louis? Not so much.
 


Now news that European intelligence agencies also intercepted communications between Trumps people and the Russians.

Even if our Repugnican controlled oligarchy tries to cover it up the Europeans are not going to allow Trump to chummy up with Putin and threatenbtheir security.

This things about to completely unravel.

It figures that you wouldn't choose apple pie...that's too American.
 
That's a pretty ******* ignorant statement. You don't ******* know me or how I have ever voted and to assume that just because I don't like your president that I'm a liberal from CA. **** you. Have you ever left Allegheny county? Why don't You stop voting for unqualified ******** for president?

What's ignorant about it? And yes, I have been to Washington County one or twice.
 
Russia just said Trump administration IS in chaos. It'll be interesting to see how he responds to that.
 
Let's forget the media and all of that stuff for a second. Just read word for word Trumps press conference from today. Out of his own mouth he goes on and on about how bad it is and the terrible it is. How he inherited this giant mess. Obama inherited a two front war (one of which was totally misguided and a complete disaster) and an economic meltdown not seen since the great depression. Did you hear him speak like that? Simple question.

Yes. Over 8 years later, Obama is still blaming everything on Bush. Obama achieved nothing as President. Pretty much everything got worse under him, including the situation in the middle east.
 
Russia just said Trump administration IS in chaos. It'll be interesting to see how he responds to that.

Oh my god, really? Pack it in boys, it's over.
 
Russia just said Trump administration IS in chaos. It'll be interesting to see how he responds to that.


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Oh my god, really? Pack it in boys, it's over.

You have to ask yourself why Trump is being such a little ***** boy to Putin. If he is being blackmailed, it's a big ****** deal.
 
You have to ask yourself why Trump is being such a little ***** boy to Putin. If he is being blackmailed, it's a big ****** deal.

Amazing the sudden outrage that people now have over influence by foreign governments over our elected leaders...true or not.

No Liberal or the MSM had a problem with Hillary taking funding from countless enemies of our nation and influencing her role as Secretary or State and funding her election and possibly influencing her had she become President.

No Liberal or the MSM had a problem with Obama's ties with the Muslim Brotherhood, sending them F16s, taxpayer dollars, and the like.

But now?! The outrage!
 
Calling Trump a ***** boy to Putin is certainly rich after the last 8 years of Obummer's 24X7 apologizing for America's greatness, his total disregard for the rule of law and the underhanded support of terrorists. He is our worst President ever.
 
Russia just said Trump administration IS in chaos. It'll be interesting to see how he responds to that.

is that the same Russia that hacked our elections to put Trump into office or the same Russia who bought uranium from Hildebeast or the same Russia whom Bomma scoffed at being a world threat?

please, be specific.
 
Couple things,

Bush in his efforts to "stabilize the economy" started to wars which really were illegal and resulted in an edit of the Wolfowitz Doctrine. Ultimately though the U.S. changed it's foreign military policy such that they could preemptively initiate wars in other countries that they felt were threats. (This by the way is the same thing that got all the Nazi's convicted at the Nuremburg trials for historical reference.) Along the way to "stabilizing" the economy, Bush grotesquely increased the national deficit and under his watch the amount of money "lost" by the Department of Defense became truly staggering.

Obama has done nothing to improve this problem. He's as warlike as his predecessor and that takes a ridiculous amount of money. Unlike George Bush, Obama also pushed for numerous domestic programs which require significant funding as well. This lead to obscene deficit spending. So technically Trump is perfectly correct in saying that he inherited two completely cluster-****** wars that have very little purpose and even less chance at meaningful resolution. AND he's inherited a sea of domestic programs that cost a ton of money that frankly the U.S. can't pay for.

But folks DO like their free ****!

Now, the media is having a ******* Field Day beating the **** out of Trump at every turn. He hasn't really had time to demonstrate whether he's competent or not. We'll find out sooner or later. But we DO know that the Democrats didn't put forth ANY VALID OPPONENT. They can ***** and moan all they want, but at the end of the day, they couldn't run a decent candidate. The one guy who MAY have had a shot was bled by the DNP to crown Shillary. They did this **** to themselves.

You simply CANNOT continue to spend more than you ******* make. It isn't hard math. It's really easy math. You don't spend trillions of dollars on your ******* military and trillions of dollars on your domestic programs and expect that ****'s going to go on forever. Who the **** runs their household like that? I'll tell you who, career politicians who KNOW that they'll get reelected and continue getting their pension and will NEVER have to worry about the ******* debt their piling up. It's ******* insane. We can't even AFFORD a military. Much less the largest military on the planet X 20.

And as has been noted earlier, how much good have ALL those social programs done? How much have American Blacks advanced in the last 10 or 12 years? How have relations with ANY minorities developed? I would argue that the Obama Administration's defining legacy toward race relations has been to purposefully paint white Americans, particularly white male Americans as hateful, horrible, xenophobic monsters. And the result of that campaign has been to alienate white male Americans to the degree that they feel as if they are a threatened minority themselves. And that's the way it is folks.

But let's not pretend that Bush was awesome, or Clinton, or Reagan. All this strife that's going on with the middle east right now - that started with CIA bullshit with Iran and the Shaw. And later, it continued with Reagan making drug and weapons deals for hostages. He was perfectly willing to arm Iran against Iraq and Iraq against Iran in exchange for whatever America felt it wanted or needed. But, people loved Granpa Ron so much that the scandal was quickly wiped away with a few convictions, resignations and Reagan saying He simply "Didn't recall."

Bush Sr. continued his sneaky *** ways in the middle east, fomenting hatred and strife. He helped stir up a war between Afghanistan and Russia while he was serving under Reagan and that war so sapped Russia that eventually the U.S.S.R. crumbled and in time Bush Jr. was able to move forward with an effort at American Imperialism that has never before been imagined. Now we have bases in Iraq that put us in striking distance of both Syria and Iran, we can protect the oil pipeline and we can effectively stage whatever type of war we like from our combined bases in the middle east. Obama has been completely on board with plans of maintaining U.S. control in the middle east and he's authorized hundreds and hundreds of drone strikes on targets of questionable military value. There can be no doubt that America has gone from being a "liberator" for the Iraqi people to an occupant.

Sadly, we're not all that awesome in the eyes of the world. We really are thugs and bullies. We've earned it. I suppose there's a reason for it. Control the oil and natural gas, control the world. But along the way, while the U.S. brain trust was operating on concepts of military dominance and gas and oil resource control, economic markets were lost to the U.S. and now, truly the country is a the whim of our creditors. China doesn't need to launch nuclear weapons. They just need to call in their loans. Or, simply lead the charge on moving away from the U.S. dollar as the worldwide standard of currency. We'd see a spike in inflation nearing that of Post WW1 Germany. Our citizens would bludgeon each other in the streets for bread.

But, our politicians will be safe. They'll have well guarded facilities and personnel. They'll be fine.
 
Liberals are not used to a Republican punching back.

SMACK!

never back down, never surrender


Trump Declares CNN, NYT, CBS, ABC And NBC Are "The Enemy of The American People"


Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 60m 60 minutes ago

The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!


They aren't the enemy for the left as leftists enjoy praising all networks (except Fox) and adore papers such as The Failing New York Times and The Washington Compost. A new tactic of leftists is to go the Twitter feeds of whiny political reporters like Jim Acosta (who literally had a drawing a "fan" gave him showing him with tape over his mouth as though he has been silenced). They go there, fawn over them, and call them the saviors of democracy from Trump (who they believe is Hitler). Trump daring to criticize these people is against democracy according to them.

The media hysteria feeds them, and they feed the media, and that brings us to this Trump Tweet. This has sent them overboard. They are Tweeting feverishly from their bunkers where they are hiding from Putin that Trump must go, it's the end of democracy, blah blah blah.

For the record, the press has treated conservatives differently than liberals for years because the majority of reporters are liberal. Only 7.1% of reporters identify as Republicans

http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2017/02/trump-calls-media-enemy-of-american.html
 
Amazing the sudden outrage that people now have over influence by foreign governments over our elected leaders...true or not.

No Liberal or the MSM had a problem with Hillary taking funding from countless enemies of our nation and influencing her role as Secretary or State and funding her election and possibly influencing her had she become President.

No Liberal or the MSM had a problem with Obama's ties with the Muslim Brotherhood, sending them F16s, taxpayer dollars, and the like.

But now?! The outrage!

Just wait until Trump defangs the EPA and both DoE's (Energy and Education) and institutes a national concealed carry permit. Dems will suddenly be all about states' rights. Be good times.
 
You have to ask yourself why Trump is being such a little ***** boy to Putin. If he is being blackmailed, it's a big ****** deal.
Yes, it would be a big ****** deal. It would be a big ******* deal if humans caused global warming. It would be a big ****** deal if spending more on government schools improved outcomes. It would be a big ****** deal if letting illegal immigrants en masse was good for the country. Lots of ridiculous **** would be a big ****** deal.
 
Why is it so important that we keep jobs related to the coal industry? As technology and other advancements happen over time, certain occupations just get overtaken. Did anyone care about the guys that made horse-drawn buggys losing their jobs when cars came along? I know nobody around the country seemed to give much of a **** when the steel industry evaporated. I think natural gas has killed more coal jobs than anything else. But that's how our system works... you know.. build a better mousetrap...
 
Amazing the sudden outrage that people now have over influence by foreign governments over our elected leaders...true or not.

No Liberal or the MSM had a problem with Hillary taking funding from countless enemies of our nation and influencing her role as Secretary or State and funding her election and possibly influencing her had she become President.

No Liberal or the MSM had a problem with Obama's ties with the Muslim Brotherhood, sending them F16s, taxpayer dollars, and the like.

But now?! The outrage!

How do you get outrage? It's concern. Trump praises and defends Putin and Russia (when did Clinton or Obama do that?) and then they turn around and **** on him, and he doesn't even condemn or refute what they say and do. Instead, and bizarrely, suggesting people want him to take military action. You don't find that a little odd and suspicious?

OK!
 
No Liberal or the MSM had a problem with Obama's ties with the Muslim Brotherhood

Would this be labeling Obama a terrorist too?

Do it!



White House Weighs Terrorist Designation for Muslim Brotherhood


WASHINGTON — President Trump’s advisers are debating an order intended to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a foreign terrorist organization, targeting the oldest and perhaps most influential Islamist group in the Middle East.

A political and social organization with millions of followers, the Brotherhood officially renounced violence decades ago and won elections in Egypt after the fall of President Hosni Mubarak in 2011. Affiliated groups have joined the political systems in places like Tunisia and Turkey, and President Barack Obama long resisted pressure to declare it a terrorist organization.

But the Brotherhood calls for a society governed by Islamic law, and some of its former members and offshoots — most notably Hamas, the Palestinian group whose stated goal is the destruction of Israel — have been tied to attacks. Some advisers to Mr. Trump have viewed the Brotherhood for years as a radical faction secretly infiltrating the United States to promote Shariah law. They see the order as an opportunity to finally take action against it.

“The goals of the Muslim Brotherhood,” Mr. Gaffney said in a recent interview with The New York Times, are “exactly the same as the Islamic State, exactly the same as the Taliban, exactly the same as, you know, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Al Nusra Front, on and on, Al Shabab. It’s about Islamic supremacism. It’s about achieving the end state that is their due.”

Some congressional Republicans reintroduced legislation last month calling on the State Department to designate the Brotherhood as a terrorist organization or explain why it would not. “It’s time to call the enemy by its name,” Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, who sponsored the measure with Representative Mario Diaz-Balart of Florida, wrote on Twitter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/world/middleeast/muslim-brotherhood-terrorism-trump.html?_r=0
 
It's a joke. See, you said, "I'm sorry to hurt some feelings on this forum," followed by an innocuous comment, while a host of other comments from many others are far more vituperative.

Get it?

Could you pls use "vituperative " in a sentence?

Lol


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Why is it so important that we keep jobs related to the coal industry? As technology and other advancements happen over time, certain occupations just get overtaken. Did anyone care about the guys that made horse-drawn buggys losing their jobs when cars came along? I know nobody around the country seemed to give much of a **** when the steel industry evaporated. I think natural gas has killed more coal jobs than anything else. But that's how our system works... you know.. build a better mousetrap...

No one cares as technology outpaces jobs. What people car about is government, based on political ideology, forces some jobs out either by overregulation or subsidizing their competition.
 
Why is it so important that we keep jobs related to the coal industry? As technology and other advancements happen over time, certain occupations just get overtaken. Did anyone care about the guys that made horse-drawn buggys losing their jobs when cars came along? I know nobody around the country seemed to give much of a **** when the steel industry evaporated. I think natural gas has killed more coal jobs than anything else. But that's how our system works... you know.. build a better mousetrap...


Not a very good analogy. Those that built buggies could easily adapt to building cars. No jobs lost.

There are still plenty of uses for coal, so making it an obsolete industry has nothing to do with building a better mousetrap. ...it has everything to do with the agenda of wacko left wing environmentalists.
 
How do you get outrage? It's concern. Trump praises and defends Putin and Russia (when did Clinton or Obama do that?) and then they turn around and **** on him, and he doesn't even condemn or refute what they say and do. Instead, and bizarrely, suggesting people want him to take military action. You don't find that a little odd and suspicious?

OK!

You really need to brush up on your history of our leaders' interactions with Russia, especially around Hillary. Ummm, uranium anyone?

Jesus son.

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This all comes down to your predisposed position of liberal vs. conservative.

I don't agree with everything Trump is doing. I'm not going to try to defend it. But as a Nationalist/Conservative, I am always going to look at Trump's Presidency as glass-half-full until he does something I really can't accept (which he hasn't). He is at least somewhat TRYING to drain the swamp. Every agency in government is too big, even if I agree (or disagree) that we need them more than Trump sometimes states. I believe in the core message and need of the Environmental Protection Agency. I agree we need an Endangered Species Act. But what has happened with the EPA, like so many other aspect of federal government is it's just TOO BIG and bloated with addendums to the law instead of REWRITING the laws to change with the times.

Every regulatory agency in the Federal Government has become a book with way too many chapters and verses, often duplicating and convoluting the core message. The more complex the book, the more politicized it can also become because Presidents (thanks in great part to Obama) decide which chapters of the book they want to enforce the most.

This is drastically different than what our founding fathers envisioned from a federal government. And while I am in total agreement regulations are needed, it might be the best past forward is to live a while with NO regulations (or raping and pillaging the regulations currently in place) and then rewriting them as necessary for the 21st century. And often, the best way to write regulations is to let the States do it first and see what works the best, then apply that to the country. The great advantage of 50 states is regulations and government create competition among themselves and this often leads to more well written laws (as opposed to the federal government).

Just like liberals might not have loved everything Obama did, they still believed in the welfare state, euro-socialism, globalization to look at his Presidency glass-half-full.

I am choosing to do the same with Trump because I want to see less regulation for a while. I want to see lower taxes. I want to see smaller government. And I finally want real immigration reform (which I think the executive order was meant to push congress into action).

On the foreign relations front, I actually like Mattis and Tillerson better than almost any Secretary of Defense/Secretary of State combination I can remember. So yes, I'm going to look at this for a while glass-half-full.
 
Why is it so important that we keep jobs related to the coal industry? As technology and other advancements happen over time, certain occupations just get overtaken. Did anyone care about the guys that made horse-drawn buggys losing their jobs when cars came along? I know nobody around the country seemed to give much of a **** when the steel industry evaporated. I think natural gas has killed more coal jobs than anything else. But that's how our system works... you know.. build a better mousetrap...

You are 100% correct, with the addition that where the market forces drive a company out of business and a better industry takes its place, all is good.

However, where government intervenes and artificially drives up the price of one industry, and subsidizes its competitor, and increases the subsidies for the competitor while adding regulations to the non-favored industry, then the outcome is not market-driven - it is the product of government intervention.

Government intervention is a necessary element to a monopoly. After all, how do government-favored industries keep competitors from entering the field? Why, with government barriers to such entry. Therefore, what our government is doing in taxing and regulating coal out of existence, while then transferring billions to wind farms and solar farms, is more akin to establishing a monopoly than letting the market run its course.
 
Why is it so important that we keep jobs related to the coal industry? As technology and other advancements happen over time, certain occupations just get overtaken. Did anyone care about the guys that made horse-drawn buggys losing their jobs when cars came along? I know nobody around the country seemed to give much of a **** when the steel industry evaporated. I think natural gas has killed more coal jobs than anything else. But that's how our system works... you know.. build a better mousetrap...

That's very easy to say when you aren't the one surrounded by entire towns that are dead or dying as a result. From a distance it probably seems as cut and dry to others as it does to you as to what the big deal is. The answer is this. Without those coal jobs, towns in "fly over country" have nothing else to keep their economy going. It is a huge percentage of their livelihood. As a result when you have all these stupid restrictions and mills, plants and mines shut down you suddenly have a multitude of depressed areas because their are no jobs to offer people. From up on the pedestal I know that doesn't seem important, but for the millions that find that to be their reality, believe me it is a big deal.
 
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