A very simple question to ask yourself

[Shane Falco]

I feel he toyed with the media. He knows what he's doing. He's pretty much playing fetch with the MSM and having a good time with it.

 

[Stewey]

LOL. That's funny when you consider Trump was a Democrat less than a decade ago.

And?

Reagan was a democRAT too.

Your post is as pointless as it gets.

 

[Troglodyte]

And?

Reagan was a democRAT too.

Your post is as pointless as it gets.

So neither Reagan or Trump was a qualified candidate, they were both democrats after JFK.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

Liberals "Trump hasn't done anything..He's just golfing and vacationing"

Liberals "the country is in shambles ...It's the worst it's ever been!!"

How can it be both? Lol. It's in shambles cause of your buddy Brock.

The interesting thing to me is that even though you run this board you've failed to notice that many the people calling Trump a buffoon here are card carrying Republicans. Republicans who see the historical writing on the wall. This thing is a turd, and it's going to get hung around the Republicans' necks for decades to come just like Iraq. And like Iraq, 10 years from now Republicans will be running on their opposition to Trump.

Enjoy your day Trumpers. Enjoy your day. You'll be looked at a decade from now in the same way we today look at those angry mobs of 1960s segregationists who threw rocks at Black kids enrolling in southern schools.

Congratulations on your victory, you've ****** yourselves for all time! And in high definition no less!

 

[Steelerfan81]

The interesting thing to me is that even though you run this board you've failed to notice that many the people calling Trump a buffoon here are card carrying Republicans. Republicans who see the historical writing on the wall. This thing is a turd, and it's going to get hung around the Republicans' necks for decades to come just like Iraq. And like Iraq, 10 years from now Republicans will be running on their opposition to Trump.

Enjoy your day Trumpers. Enjoy your day. You'll be looked at a decade from now in the same way we today look at those angry mobs of 1960s segregationists who threw rocks at Black kids enrolling in southern schools.

Congratulations on your victory, you've ****** yourselves for all time! And in high definition no less!

You should just be lucky I left your ******* *** post here.

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[Steel Vanguard]

You should just be lucky I left your ******* *** post here.

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My point exactly. No logic, no reason. Just flame and emotion.

I've been on this board and it's many iterations for 20 years now. TWENTY YEARS. And nothing's changed. They can't win the argument on it's merits, They can's win on the facts (because your president is indeed the laughingstock of the planet right now) so they attack the source of the inconvenient fact.

You conveniently ignored the only part of my post specifically addressed to you: it ain't just liberals challenging Trump's foolishness. It's every sensible, rational Conservative and Republican in America.

 

[Steelerfan81]

No actually you're dead wrong. Hardly any Republicans are questioning Trump. That's why he ******* won. Even the hardcore conservatives like McCain voted for him. Regardless if he's gonna cry every day now. Trump wouldn't of won if half the liberals didn't vote for him along with all the Republicans.

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[oneforthebus]

I'm a Republican who can't stand Trump but I'd still have him as president for the next 10 years over a week of Hillary. We're stepping back from the precipice of open borders and full on European socialism and as much as I think Trump is an obnoxious jackass, that's what's most important to me.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

No actually you're dead wrong. Hardly any Republicans are questioning Trump. That's why he ******* won. Even the hardcore conservatives like McCain voted for him. Regardless if he's gonna cry every day now. Trump wouldn't of won if half the liberals didn't vote for him along with all the Republicans.

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Wait, what? First of all, Trump LOST the popular vote. By 3 MILLION votes. "Half" of liberals did not vote for him. Trump voters represent roughly 40% of eligible voters. Not nearly a majority, and certainly nowhere near "half of liberals". Further, Hillary got 5 million less total votes than Obama did in 2012 due to low turnout (Trump got about 1 million less than Romney) and STILL managed to beat Trump by 3 million votes.

I'm not going to argue the electoral college, it is what it is. I'm simply stating the inconvenient fact that your claim of some plurality of Americans supporting Trump is patently false. Trump's current Gallop approval rating is an unprecedented low of 40%. Given that at least half the electorate is Republican (looking at the legislature and governorship) that means at least 20% of Republicans are dissatisfied with his performance to date.

You are demonstrably factually wrong on literally every single point.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

I'm a Republican who can't stand Trump but I'd still have him as president for the next 10 years over a week of Hillary. We're stepping back from the precipice of open borders and full on European socialism and as much as I think Trump is an obnoxious jackass, that's what's most important to me.

It was a terrible choice. But let me ask you this: what if it was Pence? He at least talks like a grownup, has some understanding of world affairs and history, and can string together more than two sentences without telling a ridiculous lie. Seeing him on TV this morning addressing NATO made wish he was president even though I disagree with him on almost everything. At least he can be taken seriously.

 

[SteelChip]

That's a pretty ******* ignorant statement. You don't ******* know me or how I have ever voted and to assume that just because I don't like your president that I'm a liberal from CA. **** you. Have you ever left Allegheny county? Why don't You stop voting for unqualified ******** for president?

LOL..like that overqualified community organizer we have to clean up after now ?

 

[hamster]

, They can's win on the facts (because your president is indeed the laughingstock of the planet right now) so they attack the source of the inconvenient fact.
.

Who is laughing? And if you say the domestic and foreign press, you have not learned anything from the election.

 

[Steelerfan81]

Did you subtract the 823,000 fradulent votes from your total? Lol. Take out California and all those hipster liberal ***** and she doesn't come close to winning the popular vote.

You can argue with someone else because I don't care to argue with you. I don't want you to post any attention whoring thread saying your leaving for you to just show back up with another whine fest.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

And would you say the same to these people?

Because there was no small number of them.

Who is laughing? And if you say the domestic and foreign press, you have not learned anything from the election.

How about the 60% of Americans who don't approve of his job performance and the thermonuclear number of jokes, memes, YouTube videos and other media that openly mock his buffoonish nature. You may hate Obama, but at least he talked like an adult.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

Did you subtract the 823,000 fradulent votes from your total? Lol. Take out California and all those hipster liberal ***** and she doesn't come close to winning the popular vote.

You can argue with someone else because I don't care to argue with you. I don't want you to post any attention whoring thread saying your leaving for you to just show back up with another whine fest.

This, again, is the point. You lost the argument on the facts. Not because I attacked you personally, which I didn't. Not because I lied, which I didn't. But because you made incorrect statements that were easily proven false. You failed to make your case with facts and information, and that is not my fault.

As to the 823,000 false ballots, that claim (accusation) has not even come close to being proven. Even if it had (and it never will, because it didn't happen) HILLARY STILL BEATS TRUMP BY TWO MILLION VOTES. And the last time I checked, California was the richest, most popular state in America. California is, by itself, the 6th largest economy in the world. America needs California WAY MORE than California needs the rest of America. We pay for your roads, your schools and your defense. You should be more grateful.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

Y'all seem to have forgotten how good I am at this...

 

[Booted]

Y'all seem to have forgotten how good I am at this...

We didn't forget you're an *******.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

We didn't forget you're an *******.

I can feel the love in this room...

 

[hamster]

How about the 60% of Americans who don't approve of his job performance and the thermonuclear number of jokes, memes, YouTube videos and other media that openly mock his buffoonish nature. You may hate Obama, but at least he talked like an adult.

Yeah, I remember how they all mocked his chances. Dumbasses, them all.

 

[SteelChip]

And would you say the same to these people? .

A POS is a POS but if he is the POTUS, then he is my POS whether I like it or not. I thought Barry was the very bottom of the barrel but I never said he was not MY President.

Speaking of Barry, I see he's back at OFA and pulling out all stops on his underhanded plots and schemes .

We even have a couple of those flunkies on this board it seems.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

Yeah, I remember how they all mocked his chances. Dumbasses, them all.

Anyone can be wrong. The data did not support a Trump win, and even his own camp wasn't sure. Keep in mind that Trump did not win a majority of the electorate, or the votes. He won on a technicality. It's fully within reason not to predict such an outcome.

And make no mistake, I was dead *** wrong about Trump winning. I said on this board he would never be President, and he proved me wrong.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

A POS is a POS but if he is the POTUS, then he is my POS whether I like it or not. I thought Barry was the very bottom of the barrel but I never said he was not MY President.


We even have a couple of those flunkies on this board it seems.

What purpose does it serve to post false quotes? You may not agree with Obama, but that doesn't mean he hates America. That's just silly.

 

[oneforthebus]

It was a terrible choice. But let me ask you this: what if it was Pence? He at least talks like a grownup, has some understanding of world affairs and history, and can string together more than two sentences without telling a ridiculous lie. Seeing him on TV this morning addressing NATO made wish he was president even though I disagree with him on almost everything. At least he can be taken seriously.

I'd be thrilled if Pence became President someday in an ordinary transfer of power. I would not be thrilled if Trump is forced out by political reactionaries, that will result in nothing less than a civil war I believe. We have an electoral college for a reason. I don't want California and New York deciding every election and neither should you. Time to accept that most of America doesn't want what the far left is selling. They do not want to rush headlong right into the same liberal policies that people all over the world are starting to revolt against. Like Trump or hate him, Democrats better learn the lesson of his win if they ever want to gain back any semblance of power.

Trump is not a politician and I think with the right advice, if he will ever take it, could end up settling down into a decent president. I think it's great the way he's calling out the press for its dishonesty,,,he's doing it childishly but it needed to be done. People in this country are tired of a small group of liberal elites controlling the narrative. Most of the people who elected Trump do not give a rat's *** what Europe thinks about us. If we grow the economy and strengthen our military, I honestly don't give a rat's *** what they think about us either.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Trump is not a politician and I think with the right advice, if he will ever take it, could end up settling down into a decent president. I think it's great the way he's calling out the press for its dishonesty,,,he's doing it childishly but it needed to be done. People in this country are tired of a small group of liberal elites controlling the narrative. Most of the people who elected Trump do not give a rat's *** what Europe thinks about us. If we grow the economy and strengthen our military, I honestly don't give a rat's *** what they think about us either.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

I'd be thrilled if Pence became President someday in an ordinary transfer of power. I would not be thrilled if Trump is forced out by political reactionaries, that will result in nothing less than a civil war I believe. We have an electoral college for a reason. I don't want California and New York deciding every election and neither should you. Time to accept that most of America doesn't want what the far left is selling. They do not want to rush headlong right into the same liberal policies that people all over the world are starting to revolt against. Like Trump or hate him, Democrats better learn the lesson of his win if they ever want to gain back any semblance of power.

I don't understand this statement. You say "most of America" doesn't want what he "far left" is selling, but use the electoral college as an example when it was the college itself that went against the will of the majority. You can't have it both ways. Most of the voting electorate wanted Hillary. That's a fact. Trump won on technical grounds, not on the merits. And the last time I checked, NY and California were indeed lawfully recognized states in the United States. Their votes should count the same as yours. Why should an Alabama vote or an Iowa vote be worth more than a California vote? And for Pete's sake, don't say "voter fraud". That tall tale has a long way to go to become credible.

Trump is not a politician and I think with the right advice, if he will ever take it, could end up settling down into a decent president. I think it's great the way he's calling out the press for its dishonesty,,,he's doing it childishly but it needed to be done. People in this country are tired of a small group of liberal elites controlling the narrative. Most of the people who elected Trump do not give a rat's *** what Europe thinks about us. If we grow the economy and strengthen our military, I honestly don't give a rat's *** what they think about us either.

Trump has been a spoiled crybaby his whole life. He has never known struggle. Ever. He is a megalomaniac for exactly this reason. He will never listen because he has never had to. He will go on stomping around like an elephant in a rose garden until his days in office are done. Fighting with the media does not help his cause, or yours. The only people who felt "the media" was at fault during his tirade are the people already on his side. For the massively larger "other" it was just another nail in his coffin and bulletin board material for the "media" to attack him more.

To be effective he's going to have to build bridges. I don't see that happening any time soon.