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Act of Terrorism in Orlando

Why the original was redacted and why the transcript was doctored to say God instead of Allah. Plus, most of the calls still haven't been released.
 
Feeling left out again

Black Lives Matter Lists “White Supremacy, Patriarchy, Capitalism” Among Reasons for Orlando Attack

While conservatives identify the Orlando massacre as an Islamic terrorist attack and the left blames a variety of factors including conservatives and guns, the Black Lives Matter movement has published its own unique perspective on the cause of this atrocity.

“Despite the media’s framing of this as a terrorist attack, we are very clear that this terror is completely homegrown, born from the anti-Black white supremacy, patriarchy and homophobia of [sic] the conservative right and of those who would use religious extremism as a weapon to gain power for the few and take power from the rest.”

Although the Orlando killer had been investigated by the FBI as a possible terror threat, and despite his declaration of allegiance to ISIS during the attack, Black Lives Matter emphatically asserts that, “The enemy is now and has always been the four threats of white supremacy, patriarchy, capitalism, and militarism. These forces and not Islam create terrorism.”

http://www.academia.org/black-lives...-capitalism-among-reasons-for-orlando-attack/

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BLM is slipping, they left out heterosexuality.
 
Feeling left out again

Black Lives Matter Lists “White Supremacy, Patriarchy, Capitalism” Among Reasons for Orlando Attack

While conservatives identify the Orlando massacre as an Islamic terrorist attack and the left blames a variety of factors including conservatives and guns, the Black Lives Matter movement has published its own unique perspective on the cause of this atrocity.

“Despite the media’s framing of this as a terrorist attack, we are very clear that this terror is completely homegrown, born from the anti-Black white supremacy, patriarchy and homophobia of [sic] the conservative right and of those who would use religious extremism as a weapon to gain power for the few and take power from the rest.”

Although the Orlando killer had been investigated by the FBI as a possible terror threat, and despite his declaration of allegiance to ISIS during the attack, Black Lives Matter emphatically asserts that, “The enemy is now and has always been the four threats of white supremacy, patriarchy, capitalism, and militarism. These forces and not Islam create terrorism.”

http://www.academia.org/black-lives...-capitalism-among-reasons-for-orlando-attack/

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BLM is slipping, they left out heterosexuality.

I knew this day was acomin'.......

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According to the text he sent his family during the attack it played out just like it was reported. He died a few hours after being shot multiple times during surgery. But keep spinning your conspiracies.

Hey patsy, so how do you explain the eyewitnesses saying there were more than one gunman and another guy was holding the door so people couldn't escape?

Oops, no answer to those reports.

How do you explain no ambulances?

How did all those bodies get carried out without anyone seeing them?


Why were supposed shot people being carried TOWARDS the bar, and then left to stand on their own and the group of people started laughing?

But, it's OK, stay being a duped patsy; the establishment loves suckers like you who just buy whatever the TV tells them. They love those who are easy to dupe, and you sure are.

How come they heard more than one gun being fired at once?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2ewNQMdu7A

They love the patsies. And you just sit there, clueless.

There is a massive, ongoing effort from the globalists to take our guns away. Can it get anymore obvious?

Well, not to the played, duped patsies.

Thank God I don't live life being duped all the time.
 
I'm sure he would say it's to protect our country from people like us....

While he works and pays taxes under a right-wing government in Hungary that put a wall up against Syrian immigrants and maintains a practically zero Muslim population. Tibs needs to go to the Ferencvarosi TC soccer message board, find a political discussion there and spout his liberal view to save Hungary from itself. Because what would he do if Hungary continues under right-wing rule? Obviously it's ruining the country he makes a living in......

Tibs has mental illness. He can't help that his mental capacity limits him from grasping reality. It's not his fault. He never asked to be born with special needs brain capacity.
 


They just keep making these "events" happen.

They are staged events.

If you buy them at face value, you are falling for the big dupe.

And they just love the patsies who buy their lies.

When solving a crime, ask who has the means and the motives. It's that simple.
 


They just keep making these "events" happen.

They are staged events.

If you buy them at face value, you are falling for the big dupe.

And they just love the patsies who buy their lies.


So I should believe a guy who makes a YouTube video and cannot spell the word "false"??

Is that about right?
 
Hey patsy, so how do you explain the eyewitnesses saying there were more than one gunman and another guy was holding the door so people couldn't escape?

Oops, no answer to those reports.

How do you explain no ambulances?

How did all those bodies get carried out without anyone seeing them?


Why were supposed shot people being carried TOWARDS the bar, and then left to stand on their own and the group of people started laughing?

But, it's OK, stay being a duped patsy; the establishment loves suckers like you who just buy whatever the TV tells them. They love those who are easy to dupe, and you sure are.

How come they heard more than one gun being fired at once?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2ewNQMdu7A

They love the patsies. And you just sit there, clueless.

There is a massive, ongoing effort from the globalists to take our guns away. Can it get anymore obvious?

Well, not to the played, duped patsies.

Thank God I don't live life being duped all the time.
have you looked at a map?
 
have you looked at a map?

No he hasn't.

Over 600 emergency calls to fire, police during Orlando shooting.

http://www.ems1.com/ems-management/...calls-to-fire-police-during-Orlando-shooting/

The other shooter was probably the off duty police officer who exchanged gunfire with him or the police officers who arrived and exchanged fire with him which has been reported by dozens of eye witnesses and the police.The article below has maps and pictures of the club and lays out what happened in great detail.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ppened-at-the-orlando-nightclub-shooting.html
 
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Tibs has mental illness. He can't help that his mental capacity limits him from grasping reality. It's not his fault. He never asked to be born with special needs brain capacity.

That's not true.

I like Tibs. The problem is in his effort to combat this board's right-wing majority he has abandoned what he truly believes and just gone completely Bernie Sanders leftist. I actually don't think he's that left and he supports Bernie as his lashing out vote. Hell, most of America is lashing out by voting for Trump.

The difference is Trump is a moderate and Bernie is a communist in socialist clothing.

I think Tibs has lost sight of what he truly believes in. And I think Tibs is conflicted because he no longer lives in America and has some guilt. Especially when his new country is further right wing than Trump has every proposed.

And the REAL funny thing is that the right-wing platform in Hungary has actually been pretty good for the country. They cut taxes. They've limited immigration. Their unemployment has gone from 11% to 6% (and that's probably real unlike our unemployment numbers). They renegotiated their public sector pension programs. They improved their credit rating. They have a trade surplus. Manufacturing and mining/energy are two of their biggest economic sectors.

Sound familiar? Sound like what Trump is hoping to do with America?

Obviously Hungary is no utopia, but compared to what is was in 2008 it's been a VAST improvement since they kicked the ******* "Democratic Socialist" out of power.

And somehow, inexplicably, having lived through this in Hungary he is DEAD SET on wanting America to take up the very platform that almost bankrupted Hungary in the first place. He wants America to have open borders while he and his family are protected by a wall and strong right-wing immigration policies.

It doesn't make any sense.
 
I like Tibs too - he's been on this board longer than most anybody, it's no fun when you heathens keep running him off.
 
No he hasn't.

Over 600 emergency calls to fire, police during Orlando shooting.

http://www.ems1.com/ems-management/...calls-to-fire-police-during-Orlando-shooting/

The other shooter was probably the off duty police officer who exchanged gunfire with him or the police officers who arrived and exchanged fire with him which has been reported by dozens of eye witnesses and the police.The article below has maps and pictures of the club and lays out what happened in great detail.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ppened-at-the-orlando-nightclub-shooting.html

No, if you listen to it, it sounds like two people just unloading rounds as fast as possible. Is that how a cop would shoot in a room full of people? I highly doubt it.

And let me ask you something: Do your eyes work? You can easily see they are carrying the "victim" toward Pulse nightclub.



And what was so funny? Why did they start laughing when they put the shot guy down? What was so funny?

And why were PEOPLE carrying the injured around? Where were they gurneys? This isn't how victims would be taken care of. Where were the 1st responders with gurneys?

Why did it take THREE HOURS before the cops actually did anything? THREE HOURS.
 
Ambulances don't go into a scene until it's safe - the place was still packed with dead bodies. Self Aid and Buddy Care is what happens first in any mass casualty situation.

Add a crime scene on top of it swarming with SWAT teams and you get your answer. They were still thinking about more shooters probably, not letting anyone close to the place

It's not like a place crash where everybody goes rushing up to the scene, they could of had another shooter, drawing in help, then killing them too. It's happened before.

There were reports of a possible car with a bomb in it too. It was chaos

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That's not true.

I like Tibs. The problem is in his effort to combat this board's right-wing majority he has abandoned what he truly believes and just gone completely Bernie Sanders leftist. I actually don't think he's that left and he supports Bernie as his lashing out vote. Hell, most of America is lashing out by voting for Trump.

The difference is Trump is a moderate and Bernie is a communist in socialist clothing.

I think Tibs has lost sight of what he truly believes in. And I think Tibs is conflicted because he no longer lives in America and has some guilt. Especially when his new country is further right wing than Trump has every proposed.

And the REAL funny thing is that the right-wing platform in Hungary has actually been pretty good for the country. They cut taxes. They've limited immigration. Their unemployment has gone from 11% to 6% (and that's probably real unlike our unemployment numbers). They renegotiated their public sector pension programs. They improved their credit rating. They have a trade surplus. Manufacturing and mining/energy are two of their biggest economic sectors.

Sound familiar? Sound like what Trump is hoping to do with America?

Obviously Hungary is no utopia, but compared to what is was in 2008 it's been a VAST improvement since they kicked the ******* "Democratic Socialist" out of power.

And somehow, inexplicably, having lived through this in Hungary he is DEAD SET on wanting America to take up the very platform that almost bankrupted Hungary in the first place. He wants America to have open borders while he and his family are protected by a wall and strong right-wing immigration policies.

It doesn't make any sense.

I don't know him as well as you do.

But I have seen him flip out and just lose it, totally not basing his assertions in logic or reason.

He started resorting to ad hominem attacks while blaming others for the same thing he was doing. IDK, seemed like totally unclear thinking.
 
So I should believe a guy who makes a YouTube video and cannot spell the word "false"??

Is that about right?

If you believe the word "flase" is actually spelled "false", you are being duped by those that have the means and motive!
 
MSNBC: Attorney General Loretta Lynch Stumped About Orlando Terrorists Motive…

According to MSNBC U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch can’t seem to figure out the motive of the Orlando terrorist

Puzzled they are, stumped even. They just can’t quite figure it out.

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"God Akbar!!!"
 
Ambulances don't go into a scene until it's safe - the place was still packed with dead bodies. Self Aid and Buddy Care is what happens first in any mass casualty situation.

Add a crime scene on top of it swarming with SWAT teams and you get your answer. They were still thinking about more shooters probably, not letting anyone close to the place

It's not like a place crash where everybody goes rushing up to the scene, they could of had another shooter, drawing in help, then killing them too. It's happened before.

There were reports of a possible car with a bomb in it too. It was chaos

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That's bull ****. Will ambulances cozy right up to the front door when the locale isn't secured? No. Will they be found ALL OVER the ******* place further back. ****** right they will be.

But you see NONE. I think in all the videos I watched I saw just one ambulance. It's like all of Orlando has one ambulance.

Why don't they want real first responders around the bodies? Because they would quickly determine a lot of the injuries were fake and were being acted out.

Where were the gurneys? No where to be found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L6uMRg7nHE
 
That's bull ****. Will ambulances cozy right up to the front door when the locale isn't secured? No. Will they be found ALL OVER the ******* place further back. ****** right they will be.

But you see NONE. I think in all the videos I watched I saw just one ambulance. It's like all of Orlando has one ambulance.

Why don't they want real first responders around the bodies? Because they would quickly determine a lot of the injuries were fake and were being acted out.

Where were the gurneys? No where to be found.

Again, I am trying to understand your theory.

Are you saying 49 people were not murdered and another 53 not injured?

Are you saying that 100+ citizens were injured or murdered by the Federal government?

Based on the "gurney deficiency"?
 
Da fuq? Now they find the severed head of a Canadian in the Philippines. The Canucks have no GITMO. The Philippines isn't in the middle east. If only there were some common thread so we could, as Trump says, "Figure out what's going on".

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/philippine-police-confirm-severed-head-124927509.html

The Philippines National Police have confirmed that a severed head found near a cathedral on the island of Jolo was that of Canadian Robert Hall, 68., who was executed by Islamic militant group Abu Sayyaf last week.

Samples taken from the head matched the DNA profile of Hall supplied by a Canadian forensics laboratory, ABS-CBN reported.

Hall was captured by Abu Sayyaf in September 2015 with three others and was killed after a ransom deadline passed.

After the beheading, Hall's family said that they supported Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's directive that money should not be paid to hostage takers.

"Our family, even in our darkest hour, agrees wholeheartedly with Canada's policy of not paying ransom," the Hall family said in a statement.

Hall's death came after fellow Canadian John Ridsel was also executed by Abu Sayyaf in April.
 
Pop, are you RedSilverJ just trying to promote your youtube videos and get hits?

The fact you call out Tibs for being off the reservation while you keep pumping **** like this and ruining the discussion about ANYTHING is just hypocritical.

No one cares about your conspiracy theories. Quit posting video after video after video from the same nutcase. It's not going to change our minds and just makes you look like a looney with a tin foil hat.
 
That's bull ****. Will ambulances cozy right up to the front door when the locale isn't secured? No. Will they be found ALL OVER the ******* place further back. ****** right they will be.

But you see NONE. I think in all the videos I watched I saw just one ambulance. It's like all of Orlando has one ambulance.

Why don't they want real first responders around the bodies? Because they would quickly determine a lot of the injuries were fake and were being acted out.

Where were the gurneys? No where to be found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L6uMRg7nHE

It's not bullshit at all.

Are you fire/rescue? Do you have any medical or mass casualty/ disaster preparedness experience at all, or do you only know what you see on tee-vee? That's what I thought.

The police were moving the walking wounded out in their trucks left and right - most of the rest were dead. Fire/rescue medical units were all over he place - not your shiny white civilian ambulances you seem to think are required to evacuate patients in a hurry from a disaster area.

Actors?

BWAhahahah!


Orlando Shooting Victims Arrived In 'Truckloads And Ambulance Loads': Doctor


It was around 2 a.m. on Sunday when the hospital received notice of gunshot victims coming in. At first a few patients trickled in and then it was five. Before long, they “started lining up in the hallway,” said Dr. Kathryn Bondani. “They were being dropped off in truckloads and ambulance loads.”

Before long the trauma bay was full to capacity, and phone calls started going out for additional support.

“In a matter of 30 minutes, we had multiple surgeons coming through the doors to help us out,” Bondani said.

http://patch.com/florida/brandon/orlando-shooting-victims-arrived-truckloads-ambulance-loads-doctor
 
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