Act of Terrorism in Orlando

[ark steel]

When an individual commits an act of evil/murder, that individual is responsible, not his teachers, his parents, what he watched on TV, etc..., etc....

Really? Are you sure the gun isn't to blame?

 

[Spike]

right on cue



Hillary calls for immediate reinstatement of ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN. They're a 'weapon of war'!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/...APONS-BAN-They-re-a-weapon-of-war?showAll=yes

 

[IndySteel]

 

[21STEELERS21]

There is one basic fact on gun deaths. Gun deaths in a society are proportional to the per capita number of guns in that society.
The only gun laws that impact the number of gun deaths are laws that reduce the per capita number of guns.

Gun laws can't eliminate gun violence, but can only reduce the number of gun deaths.

80 plus people die of a gun death per day in the United States. This has been going on for decades. The Orlando shooting was just
60% of that days quota. It really shouldn't be that newsworthy, but we seem to take more interest when they come in bunches, rather
than one at a time, like most of them.

 

[IndySteel]

The Orlando shooting was just
60% of that days quota. It really shouldn't be that newsworthy, .

Holy ****...

 

[SteelChip]

depending on which liberal you ask, yes, Dylan Roof's acts were an act of "radical" christianity and should be accepted. in fact, many liberals point to this act as an attempt to deflect the attention away from the muzzies.

where's Steel Vanguard at? I wonder how he feels now about the muzzies who want to kill us?

Although I seldom agree with SV ideologically or appreciate his condescending attitude, he is a veteran and I'm betting that he disagrees with both the gun grabbers and terrorists.

 

[Coach]

Now let's see if Barry will address it as such.

He called it Dometic terrorism, but it was Islamic terrorism.

If the shooter was a white American, Obama would have used more aggressive language.

When the POTUS would rather rant on a white person, and hold back thoughts on a Jihad type, his patriotism should be questioned.

I'd love to see a few side by side speeches from Obama with the names taken out, then show the difference in the language he uses.

I guess this scuba bag didn't look like the son he never had.

 

[Superman]

Although I seldom agree with SV ideologically or appreciate his condescending attitude, he is a veteran and I'm betting that he disagrees with both the gun grabbers and terrorists.

Chip,

SV may or not have been a veteran. He is a wannabe kiddie ******, though. My point is that he whined about me hating a group of people who want to annihilate this country, calling me a bigot.
and, **** him.

 

[mightyguru]

I'd like to see your equal condemnation of Tibs cartoons he posted today, when sensitivity should be at hand.

I didn't see it...will check it out.

 

[mightyguru]

oh, you miss this one?



Sure, let Tibs spew his socialist bullshit

Yeah, considering the circumstances...it sucks. I see it the other wayaround though. Isil should fear us because everyone can and should have guns in this country...just to snuff every zealot ************ that raises his ugly head.

 

[POP]

You're a terrorist sympathizer, just like Tibs. ISIS called this shot 3 days before it happened. The terrorist has made trips to Saudi Arabia in the past.

Put that in your stupid ******* book.

You're so far from knowing the truth - it's incredible.

ISIS was created by the US, UK and Israel.

How obvious does this **** have to get before the regular ham and eggers see through the lies?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881

 

[SCSteeler4life]

There is one basic fact on gun deaths. Gun deaths in a society are proportional to the per capita number of guns in that society.
The only gun laws that impact the number of gun deaths are laws that reduce the per capita number of guns.

Gun laws can't eliminate gun violence, but can only reduce the number of gun deaths.

80 plus people die of a gun death per day in the United States. This has been going on for decades. The Orlando shooting was just
60% of that days quota. It really shouldn't be that newsworthy, but we seem to take more interest when they come in bunches, rather
than one at a time, like most of them.

Gays count more, you didn't get the memo from the Liberal left media.

 

[IndySteel]

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

There is one basic fact on gun deaths. Gun deaths in a society are proportional to the per capita number of guns in that society.
The only gun laws that impact the number of gun deaths are laws that reduce the per capita number of guns.

Gun laws can't eliminate gun violence, but can only reduce the number of gun deaths.

80 plus people die of a gun death per day in the United States. This has been going on for decades. The Orlando shooting was just
60% of that days quota. It really shouldn't be that newsworthy, but we seem to take more interest when they come in bunches, rather
than one at a time, like most of them.

Those stats are bogus because they include accidents, suicides, and people using guns for self defense or stopping crimes. There are few instances where lawful gun owners intentionally murder.

That's the real stat that needs examination. The number of crimes committed with guns. But the left does not want to look at that because the group would not have a politically acceptable makeup.

 

[ark steel]

Isil should fear us because everyone can and should have guns in this country...just to snuff every zealot ************ that raises his ugly head.

That is why I think the cartoon is ridiculously incorrect. ISIS has zero interest in our population being armed, regardless of what Trog believes. The can and will arm themselves whether we disarm ourselves or not.

Oh, and I will NOT disarm myself. Well, you know, if I hadn't lost all of my guns in the Everglades.

 

[ark steel]

Those stats are bogus because they include accidents, suicides, and people using guns for self defense or stopping crimes. There are few instances where lawful gun owners intentionally murder.

That's the real stat that needs examination. The number of crimes committed with guns. But the left does not want to look at that because the group would not have a politically acceptable makeup.

Zackly.

# legally obtained guns - # gun deaths (broken out by suicide/self-defense/criminal)
# illegally obtained guns - # gun deaths (broken out by suicide/self-defense/criminal)

without looking at one stat, I'd bet the second row has a much higher rate of gun deaths than the first.

 

[diver]

You're so far from knowing the truth - it's incredible.

ISIS was created by the US, UK and Israel.

How obvious does this **** have to get before the regular ham and eggers see through the lies?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881

Aw, stop being stupid.

ISIS was created by a bunch of Muslims who want to go around killing people and to rule the world. Everybody should stop making an excuse for them. More of this blame America ****.

 

[diver]

Damn you guys get stuck on semantics. Ok, ******* semi-automatic weapons. Completely ban semi-automatic weapons for ***** sake. That's what any sane person would support

Semantics? There is a big ******' difference. I am completely sane, and I will never, ever support that.

An M1 Garand is a piece of history, and a semi-auto to boot. You are telling me I cannot have one to shoot for pleasure and in competition? Someone like me, who has passed every background check I ever took, who shoots my rifles safely, who keeps the maintenance up on them at all times, and who locks them up securely when not in use? And am not Muslim. I can't have one? How the hell does taking it away from me make anyone safer? I am tired of having to try to explain my position. Why don't you, who wants to take away a right, explain to me how, in the above scenario, anyone is safer?

You libs better be damn careful. You start messing around with people's rights, maybe someone will come along who wants to suppress something you hold dear. Maybe the damn Muslim listened to some type of music that also contributed to his rage. Or a video game that glorified violence. He was in all likelihood perusing websites encouraging jihad. You prepared for censorship, for example?

 

[SteelChip]

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I think we need to get away from all this "The guns are bad-the guns kill- get rid of all guns" and start pointing the finger at the real culprits here.

We can start with the Jihadist's, but that is just a common sense starting point. Let's point out that without Barry and Hillary this Muslim prick might never have made it to 2016 a free man let alone into a Gay nightclub with loaded weapons.

How bout we first point to Hillary's State dept ...........

We heard the FBI interviewed this Talib and let him go. Know why ?

http://www.infowars.com/hillarys-state-dept-blocked-investigation-into-orlando-killers-mosque/
Hillary Clinton’s State Dept. shut down an investigation into the mosque Orlando killer Omar Mir Siddique Mateen attended because it “unfairly singled out Muslims.”

The Fort Pierce Islamic Center, where Mateen worshipped several times a week, was under investigation by both the FBI and DHS as early as 2011 for ties to a worldwide Islamic movement known as Tablighi Jamaal which was linked to several terrorist organizations.

But the investigation was shut down under pressure from the Clinton-ran State Dept. and DHS’s Civil Rights and Civil Liberties Office out of fear of offending Muslims, according to recently retired DHS agent Philip Haney.

In other words, the FBI had limited options at stopping Mateen because it was ordered to back off its investigation into his mosque.

While we are pointing fingers, let's keep those fingers pointed and the same idiots that not only protect the Talib's but they gave them arms while trying to take our protection from them away.

Clinton even admitted some responsibility.

“…The United States had – to be fair – we had helped create the problem we’re now fighting,” she said in an interview with Fox anchor Greta Van Susteren. “When the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, we had this brilliant idea we were going to come to Pakistan and create a force on Mujahideen, equip them with Stinger missiles and everything else to go after the Soviets inside Afghanistan.”

“Now you look back [and] the people we’re fighting today, we were supporting in the fight against the Soviets.”

Additionally, on Oct. 1 President Obama authorized a shipment of guns to ISIS-linked militants in Syria – the exact same day he demanded more gun control in response to Umpqua Community College shooting in Ore.

But as his administration admitted in the 2012 leaked memo, the “Syrian opposition” is predominantly jihadist militants – just like the Orlando killer.

 

[oneforthebus]

Aw, stop being stupid.

ISIS was created by a bunch of Muslims who want to go around killing people and to rule the world. Everybody should stop making an excuse for them. More of this blame America ****.

Expect another onslaught of sinister but fact devoid Youtube videos.

 

[POP]

Those stats are bogus because they include accidents, suicides, and people using guns for self defense or stopping crimes. There are few instances where lawful gun owners intentionally murder.

That's the real stat that needs examination. The number of crimes committed with guns. But the left does not want to look at that because the group would not have a politically acceptable makeup.

Not only that, but gun murderers are highly concentrated in Chicago, DC and a few other places and are from high gang activity.

Those places are not similar to the rest of the country but skew the #s a lot.

Tighter gun control creates an increase in violent crime, not a decrease. That stats are obvious.

 

[POP]

Expect another onslaught of sinister but fact devoid Youtube videos.

I guess your brain is fogged from the toxins in vaccines.



http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881

 

[oneforthebus]

I guess your brain is fogged from the toxins in vaccines.



http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terror-group/5402881

Like all of your vaccine stuff these articles mix smatterings of truth with heaps of bullshit.

 

[Yinzerlyn]

It's funny how Islam prohibits homosexuality, but over in the 'Stans, there is (what the military calls) MAN LOVE THURSDAY....where men go out and **** other men (or boys) literally on the street and have their fun. Every Thursday, every week.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-hillary-clintons-connection-orlando-terrorist-exposed/

News just leaked out about Democrat Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton that she doesn’t want you to know. We’re now learning about her close connection to the Islamic terrorist in Orlando Florida, Omar Mateen. While serving in the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton worked closely with the President to defend Islamists from critics, and it just back fired.

Recently retired Department of Homeland Security (DHS) agent Philip Haney reports that the mosque Mateen attended several times every week is the same mosque protected by Hillary’s State Department after the Islamic terrorist attack in San Bernardino, California by Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik.

Haney’s case on the mosque drew concern from Hillary’s State Department and the DHS’s Civil Rights and Liberties Office because they believed it unfairly singled out Muslims. His report was heavily edited and scrubbed by the State Department, and no action was taken to shut down the mosque:

As a member of one of the National Targeting Center’s advanced units, Haney helped develop a case in 2011 on a worldwide Islamic movement known as Tablighi Jamaat, as he recounts in his new book “See Something, Say Nothing: A Homeland Security Officer Exposes the Government’s Submission to Jihad.” Within a few months, the case drew the “concern” of the State Department and the DHS’s Civil Rights and Civil Liberties Office because the Obama administration believed it unfairly singled out Muslims. The intelligence, however, had been used to connect members of the movement to several terrorist organizations and financing at the highest levels, including for Hamas and al-Qaida.
In the immediate aftermath of the Orlando massacre, Haney has found that the Islamic Center of Fort Pierce, Florida, is part of a network in the United States that originated in the Indian subcontinent.

The Fort Pierce mosque’s website features a link that demonstrates its relationship to the Shariah Board of America, a division of the Rahmat-e-Alam Foundation, which operates the Darul Uloom Chicago madrassa.

The madrassa is closely affiliated with the Institute of Islamic Education, which was a major component of Haney’s Tablighi Jamaat case.

Along with the State Department’s and Department of Homeland Security’s quashing of the case in June 2012, the administration subsequently ordered the deletion of an additional 67 records related to a report on the Institute of Islamic Education.

Haney explained that this kind of information comprises the “dots” that counter-terrorism analysts connect to form cases that are used to identify potential terrorist threats.

“This case struck me as very similar to the San Bernardino shooting case,” Haney told WND on Sunday. “I suspected that they were both part of a national and international network of organizations.”

He said that using open-source information, beginning with the Islamic Center of Fort Pierce, he discovered Sunday afternoon that his initial suspicions were correct.

“It’s exactly how I would have approached a case if I was still active duty,” he said.

“The FBI had opened cases twice on him, and yet they found no evidence to charge him,” Haney pointed out.

“It means they didn’t go through the same basic, analytical process that I went through over a three- or four-hour period in which I was able to link the mosque to my previous cases.”

The Orlando Sentinel reported the FBI interviewed Mateen three times for having alleged terrorist ties. He came to the FBI’s attention in 2013 after he made inflammatory remarks to co-workers, but the investigation was closed.

In 2014, he was interviewed again for making contact with a suicide bomber.

Another member of the Fort Pierce mosque, 22-year-old Moner Mohammad Abusalha, blew himself up in an attack in Syria in 2014 with an explosives-laden truck.
Via WND

Haney reports that Obama’s FBI had Mateen on their radar at least twice, but both times the investigation was shut down.

This means Hillary Clinton’s State Department is directly responsible for not flagging Mateen and getting Islamic terrorists off the streets. This is outrageous, and it should disqualify Hillary Clinton from being President of the Untied States.