And it Begins:Special Prosecutor To Investigate Trump And Russia

[Tibs]

So you are pimping and preening over the 2nd quarter score, no?

No. I am deeply concerned our sitting President is compromised and in the back pocket of Vladimir Putin.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Let's sum up the new rules

1 We can never talk with "enemies of the US"
2 We can never say anything negative or criticize an ally
3 We must never question the FBI or DOJ on anything ever. Everything they say is correct.
4 Congress can not tell FBI or DOJ what to do. When questioned by Congress, they can simply say, No, my boss says i don't have to answer
5 The President can't tell the FBI or DOJ what to do either. He has no authority to hire or fire them.
6 ICE and local cops do not count. They are all ******* racist pigs and must be micro managed by the DOJ

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

No. I am deeply concerned our sitting President is compromised and in the back pocket of Vladimir Putin.

i don't think you actually believe that. That's me paying you a compliment.

I don't think any of these elitists actually believe it. It's just an angle. Dems know they can't win on ideas. They didn't even try in the last election. The now rely almost completely on emotion.

 

[DBS1970]

No. I am deeply concerned our sitting President is compromised and in the back pocket of Vladimir Putin.

No you aren’t you are putting on a show go the other Neo-Socialist hacks.

Forward Comrade!

 

[diver]

Wait, what?

For the 2nd time in the past 48 hours, Trump just went out of his way to clarify how much he trusts & loves US intelligence agencies.



So he has no reason to trust them according to you, but he does trust them, according to him? Trump supporters are bewildering, on a good day.

Maybe bewildering to you, not to me. I completely understand why in that news conference he said what he said. There is no reason to completely trust the intel community. None. Besides their failures, they have been politically compromised. I wish Trump would have doubled down instead of modifying his remarks. I knew what he meant when he said it at the conference. I was not offended at all, because he shouldn't trust them.


What American should? It appears that many of our agencies have been compromised by political hacks. The FBI, CIA etc, hell even the IRS. A lot of people recognize this, and it is one of the reasons Trump was elected. HE doesn't sniff the White House if this **** wasn't going on.

 

[RollRed]

Since we all have to implicitly trust the intel community...I just hope all the people who were against the war in Iraq because they didn't find the weapons of mass destruction the intel community said were there...will change their tune.

It’s not that we have to trust them implicitly.... it would just be nice if the president trusted them more than he trustedVladimir Putin. Like the song says, you can’t always get what you want.

 

[Troglodyte]

Since we all have to implicitly trust the intel community...I just hope all the people who were against the war in Iraq because they didn't find the weapons of mass destruction the intel community said were there...will change their tune.

I don’t see any reason why the would... or wouldn’t... or would... or wouldn’t.

This all makes perfect ******* sense to people who want it to make sense.

 

[diver]

It’s not that we have to trust them implicitly.... it would just be nice if the president trusted them more than he trustedVladimir Putin. Like the song says, you can’t always get what you want.

But don't they need to be worthy of trust? Putin might be more trustworthy in thus sense...you know what he is, you know what he is after, you know he is not your friend. Trump knows this, hence his much tougher stance with Russia than Obama for example. But our Intel people...you think they are on your side, only to stab you in the back. It's the old saw...rather have the devil I know than the devil I dont.

 

[diver]

I don’t see any reason why the would... or wouldn’t... or would... or wouldn’t.

This all makes perfect ******* sense to people who want it to make sense.

Answer the question. Since we are now to completely trust the Intel people, are you willing to say the war in Iraq was legitimate?

 

[Tibs]

Sounds like the Trump apologists on the board are perfectly fine with this, since they consider Russia an ally and a friend, not a threat or hostile enemy. Raise your hand if you're okay with Trump handing over US citizens and diplomats to Russia for questioning.

Putin’s “Incredible Offer” to Trump Is Even Worse Than We Feared
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/07/putin-asks-trump-to-hand-over-us-diplomats

The White House is considering handing over American citizens to Putin for questioning.

There would be “another condition,” Putin added. “This kind of effort should be mutual one. Then we would expect that the Americans would reciprocate.”

That condition, Putin said, would be giving Russia the right to question Bill Browder, an American-born British financier who famously lobbied Congress to pass the Magnitsky Act, which resulted in harsh penalties and sanctions on Russia. The Kremlin retaliated by trying Browder in absentia for tax fraud—resulting in a conviction and an extradition request that was rejected by Interpol as obviously political in nature.

“We have a solid reason to believe that some intelligence officers accompanied and guided these transactions,” Putin continued. “So we have an interest of questioning them. That could be a first step. We can extend also it. Options abound. They all can be found in an appropriate legal framework.”

Russian prosecutors also demanded to interrogate former American ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, a harsh critic of Putin’s regime, in what appeared to be another example of political intimidation.

President Trump is apparently willing to indulge the “offer.” On Wednesday, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders confirmed that “some conversation” had transpired with regard to the proposal, but that the administration had no comment. The offer was simply “an idea they threw out,” Sanders said, emphasizing that the White House had not yet committed to anything. “The president is gonna meet with his team and we’ll let you know when we have an announcement on that.”

How does Trump - or any other President - not immediately and unequivocally reject such an offer?

 

[Troglodyte]

Since the State Department is referring to Trump’s “interesting idea” as “absolutely absurd”, are they part of the Deep State or is Trump just a ******* moron?

 

[Troglodyte]

Answer the question. Since we are now to completely trust the Intel people, are you willing to say the war in Iraq was legitimate?

When the evidence of Russian election interference is based on satellite photos, I’ll answer your question.

 

[Tibs]

I don’t see any reason why the would... or wouldn’t... or would... or wouldn’t. This all makes perfect ******* sense to people who want it to make sense.

I totally agree with what you're saying. No, what I mean is I don't not agree with it, rather that I agree that I don't agree. What I'm getting at is there should be no doubt at all that I don't agree with what I said I agreed with earlier, which I thought was obvious to everyone. It should have been obvious to everyone. So to clarify, I agree that I totally disagree with what I said, a double negative, if you will.

 

[Tibs]

Let's sum up the new rules

1 We can never talk with "enemies of the US"
2 We can never say anything negative or criticize an ally
3 We must never question the FBI or DOJ on anything ever. Everything they say is correct.
4 Congress can not tell FBI or DOJ what to do. When questioned by Congress, they can simply say, No, my boss says i don't have to answer
5 The President can't tell the FBI or DOJ what to do either. He has no authority to hire or fire them.
6 ICE and local cops do not count. They are all ******* racist pigs and must be micro managed by the DOJ

Such an emotional response, full of hyperbole and exaggeration, exactly what you accuse 'hysterical' Trump critics of doing.

 

[IndySteel]

Oddly enough, now that you mention it...

Trump Winning (aka Shinin' the Turd) thread:

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Mueller Investigation (aka Trump/Russia Treason/Conspiracy) thread:

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Views: 72,662

Wrong, yet AGAIN. You should never go to Vegas. Check the 2015 Trump MAGA thread, dumbass.


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[Tibs]

Wrong, yet AGAIN. You should never go to Vegas. Check the 2015 Trump MAGA thread

I know which thread you were referring to. I'm talking about these two threads from after the election, just like I wrote in my post.

dumbass.

That's the spirit!

 

[Tibs]

This is an important read to understand the reason so many are stating as fact Trump has been lying and deceiving from the very beginning. The question remains, why? Why would he feel the need to obfuscate about something he claims he has no involvement in and has nothing to hide? Boggles the mind.

From the Start, Trump Has Muddied a Clear Message: Putin Interfered
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/world/europe/trump-intelligence-russian-election-meddling-.html

WASHINGTON — Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election.

The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.

Mr. Trump sounded grudgingly convinced, according to several people who attended the intelligence briefing. But ever since, Mr. Trump has tried to cloud the very clear findings that he received on Jan. 6, 2017, which his own intelligence leaders have unanimously endorsed.

The shifting narrative underscores the degree to which Mr. Trump regularly picks and chooses intelligence to suit his political purposes. That has never been more clear than this week.

Almost as soon as he took office, Mr. Trump began casting doubts on the intelligence on Russia’s election interference, though never taking issue with its specifics.

He dismissed it broadly as a fabrication by Democrats and part of a “witch hunt” against him. He raised unrelated issues, including the state of investigations into Mrs. Clinton’s home computer server, to distract attention from the central question of Russia’s role — and who, if anyone, in Mr. Trump’s immediate orbit may have worked with them.

Since then, Mr. Trump has routinely disparaged the intelligence about the Russian election interference. Under public pressure — as he was after his statements in Helsinki on Monday — he has periodically retreated. But even then, he has expressed confidence in his intelligence briefers, not in the content of their findings.

That is what happened again this week, twice.

 

[deljzc]

I think it has less to do about Russia and Putin and more to do with his relationship with the CIA and FBI. When it comes to 2016, he's been at war with them over everything. He doesn't want to appease them even on the most obvious things. So (as Trump always does) he holds grudges and pokes the bear (not the Russian Bear) any time he can.

 

[Superman]

what is transpiring, for tibs and his leftist brethren (or sistren, or transren, or binaryren) is they do not appreciate that we are using their very same tactics to refute any argument or comment about the current POTUS that they used for the previous eight years. While the gracious, loquacious, affable, holy O was in office, they had absolutely zero problem blaming "the previous administration" for anything that occurred for those eight years. thus, when they see that the shrieking hildebeast is "attacked" they can't understand why. Hillary would be an extension of the great O's administration, yet it would be ramped up.

it's been proven that the fbi, cia, and all other three-letter acronym organizations of government intel completely and totally ignored any signs of external meddling into the democratic side of the election so that they could focus on chasing a whale that the russians collaborated with trump to win the presidency. in their minds, a better economy than the past eight years, a more secure border and a renewed focus on American citizens and military veterans are all signs that Putin wanted to bring the country down.

since hillary lost, she gets attacked for continuing to dump on Trump and those who voted for him. she's made the talk-show rounds, she's written books (and signed them at Costco) and continues to make excuse after excuse as to why she lost. She continues her attacks on nearly half of the country, yet we are to ignore her, else the left who voted for her after she cheated their beloved dingbat bernie out of the dnc nomination get their ***** even more chapped.

btw - kennedy trusted the intel from the three-letter acronym government organizations. that worked out well for him.

 

[Spike]

more and more and more WINNING!

hahahahaha


GOP Overwhelmingly Backs Trump's Putin Performance

A new Axios/Survey Monkey poll finds 79% of Republicans approve of President Trump’s performance during his meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin while just 18% disapprove.

”This poll foreshadows the coming national drama. Every piece of data, and virtually every public action of elected Republican officials, shows Trump will have overwhelming and probably unbreakable party support, regardless of what Robert Mueller finds with his Russia probe.”

https://politicalwire.com/2018/07/19/gop-overwhelmingly-backs-trumps-putin-performance/

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He's crushing them

Ha Ha

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

The Democrats have a death wish, in more ways than one - they actually want to abolish ICE. This should cost them heavily in the Midterms. Yesterday, the Republicans overwhelmingly passed a bill supporting ICE!

 

[Tibs]

what is transpiring, for tibs and his leftist brethren.

That's fine by me, that you reject out of hand what any non-Trump fanatic says because we're paranoid Obama/Hillary lovers with a chapped hide, freaking out over nothing. I get that, even expect it.

What I don't understand is when you routinely dismiss criticism of Trump coming from quarters who have nothing to do with liberals, Democrats or the MSM. Vested, career intelligence and military officers and the like. When conservative Republicans raise the alarm over Trump/Russia - which is happening much more frequently - that too is dismissed out of hand and thrown aside.

So who's left, that you trust and believe? The narrower than narrow, hardcore Trump base and pro-Trump media like FoxNews and breitbart? That's it? Everyone else is lying and full of ****, besides the precious few who have unearthed this massive conspiracy against the President. A conspiracy so huge and so wide, that it entangles the entire federal government.

That's pretty much where you and other Trump supporters stand, mired in ever-changing conspiracy theories trying to explain away Trump's troubling behavior.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

He's crushing them

Ha Ha

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

The Democrats have a death wish, in more ways than one - they actually want to abolish ICE. This should cost them heavily in the Midterms. Yesterday, the Republicans overwhelmingly passed a bill supporting ICE!

And 34 Democrates voted "For" and 100 Democrats voted "Present". Excellent bit of gamesmanship by Paul Ryan for a change.

1. Why is there no evidence of the Rooskies hacking Republican emails and computers? Is GOP security that much better?
2. If the Russian election meddling was going to help President Trump and hurt Hildebeast then why didn't the Democrat Obama Administration do something about it? I know Bomma and Hildebeast don't like each other but would He really throw the election to President Trump who was openly going to reverse His legacy instead of Hildebeast who would continue it?

 

[steel dino]

Well you are wrong on several counts.

The political right is still for personal liberty, self rule and small government. There is nothing dangerous about freedom. We are not a democracy and never have been, we are a Republic where individual rights are protected from the state. The way to fix what is wrong is to stop demanding the government "Do something" and stop spreading the myth that the government should "Take care of the people" and stop telling the lie that "Government makes us great".

Ok---IMO...the USA is both a Constitutional Democracy and a Constitutional Republic....But that a subject for another thread...and could be debated back and forth ad naseum...

I agree that there are citizens of our country that depend and believe that the government is their private and all encompassing caretaker...which is very sad for them, because those folks are the ones stuck in institutional welfare...and sad for us as the taxpayers and true caregivers for that segment of our society..

The People make the country great...the government is their to assist us in that effort..

 

[Superman]

That's fine by me, that you reject out of hand what any non-Trump fanatic says because we're paranoid Obama/Hillary lovers with a chapped hide, freaking out over nothing. I get that, even expect it.

What I don't understand is when you routinely dismiss criticism of Trump coming from quarters who have nothing to do with liberals, Democrats or the MSM. Vested, career intelligence and military officers and the like. When conservative Republicans raise the alarm over Trump/Russia - which is happening much more frequently - that too is dismissed out of hand and thrown aside.

So who's left, that you trust and believe? The narrower than narrow, hardcore Trump base and pro-Trump media like FoxNews and breitbart? That's it? Everyone else is lying and full of ****, besides the precious few who have unearthed this massive conspiracy against the President. A conspiracy so huge and so wide, that it entangles the entire federal government.

That's pretty much where you and other Trump supporters stand, mired in ever-changing conspiracy theories trying to explain away Trump's troubling behavior.

clearly you're unable to connect the dots that we've tried leaving for you as an electronic hansel and gretel trail towards why we don't believe what you do.

as clearly and concisely as I can:
the. three-letter. acronym. government. intelligence. agenices. were. proven. to. be. partial. towards. ONE. candidate.

 

[Spike]

hahahahaha, kick em!

never back down, never surrender from Fake News!


Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

The Summit with Russia was a great success, except with the real enemy of the people, the Fake News Media. I look forward to our second meeting so that we can start implementing some of the many things discussed, including stopping terrorism, security for Israel, nuclear........proliferation, cyber attacks, trade, Ukraine, Middle East peace, North Korea and more. There are many answers, some easy and some hard, to these problems...but they can ALL be solved!

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