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And it Begins:Special Prosecutor To Investigate Trump And Russia

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which explains why Bernie wouldn't go after her.. and how he suddently got another house.

So everyone agrees

RIGGED!



Warren agrees that 2016 Democratic primary was rigged for Clinton


Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said Thursday she believes the 2016 Democratic presidential primary was rigged for Hillary Clinton.

When asked by CNN's Jake Tapper if she believed the Democratic primary was rigged in favor of Clinton, Warren replied with a simple "Yes."

Tapper was asking Warren about former Democratic National Committee (DNC) chairwoman Donna Brazile's new book in which she says she found evidence that Clinton's campaign fixed the Democratic nomination system in her favor.

Warren said the allegations are a “real problem” and called on new DNC chairman Tom Perez to unite the party.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...016-democratic-primary-was-rigged-for-clinton
 
Try to follow here. Government lawyers are notoriously lazy. They have a well-earned reputation for laziness. They are in government service for the most part because they simply are not good enough to be in private practice, where they can be fired and sued. I base this on considerable dealings with government lawyers. Call the DA's office at 5:01 p.m. Know what you'll get? An answering machine. Call my office at 6:45 p.m. pretty much any night, and you'll get me. So this brilliant, hand-picked legal team issued a subpoena. A ******* subpoena. **** like that is so mundane that if I am out of the office, I will have my paralegal draft the subpoena, send it to me electronically for review and signature, and send it back. And you think this brilliant Mueller legal team issuing a subpoena is a big deal. Well, yeah, I guess that actually doing something is a plus for government lawyers.

I see you're going out of your way to brush aside and sugarcoat this.

I'm sure you're a fine lawyer. You say so yourself about fifteen times a day. Strikes me as odd how you're constantly trying to convince us of that. What does any of this have to do with you?

The fact you're trying to discredit the aptitude and preparedness of Mueller and the special counsel investigators tells me that you - like Trump - are in deep denial. No surprise, really, given your track record on this board.
 
Are you suggesting Robert Mueller and his hand-picked team of Clinton donor lawyers and the most corrupt liberals in the business are somehow not up to the task? Yep. Thought so.

Fixed it for you, Tibtard. And keep poking Steeltime, please. I can’t wait.
 
And keep poking Steeltime, please. I can’t wait.

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Try to follow here.

Government lawyers are notoriously lazy. They have a well-earned reputation for laziness. They are in government service for the most part because they simply are not good enough to be in private practice, where they can be fired and sued. I base this on considerable dealings with government lawyers. Call the DA's office at 5:01 p.m. Know what you'll get? An answering machine. Call my office at 6:45 p.m. pretty much any night, and you'll get me.

So this brilliant, hand-picked legal team issued a subpoena. A ******* subpoena. **** like that is so mundane that if I am out of the office, I will have my paralegal draft the subpoena, send it to me electronically for review and signature, and send it back.

And you think this brilliant Mueller legal team issuing a subpoena is a big deal.

Well, yeah, I guess that actually doing something is a plus for government lawyers.
Quit when you are ahead ST. Tibs has a Daily Kos.Law Degree.

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Kushner is not believed to be a target of Mueller's investigation, CNN reported, citing sources close to the White House.

He reportedly turned over similar documents to congressional investigators earlier this year.

The report itself even admits it's really a nothing-burger.
 
Tibs & Elfie at the mere possibility of something, anything, involving anything that just includes the words "investigation" and "Trump" in the same sentence:

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When all the facts come out, the investigation wrapped up, and Trump is still President:

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Warren agrees that 2016 Democratic primary was rigged for Clinton


Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said Thursday she believes the 2016 Democratic presidential primary was rigged for Hillary Clinton.

When asked by CNN's Jake Tapper if she believed the Democratic primary was rigged in favor of Clinton, Warren replied with a simple "Yes."

Tapper was asking Warren about former Democratic National Committee (DNC) chairwoman Donna Brazile's new book in which she says she found evidence that Clinton's campaign fixed the Democratic nomination system in her favor.

Warren said the allegations are a “real problem” and called on new DNC chairman Tom Perez to unite the party.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...016-democratic-primary-was-rigged-for-clinton

Holy ****. That's real collusion, money laundering and a whole slew of laws actually being broken. If THIS was Donald Trump, the impeachment proceedings would begin tomorrow morning. Sarge was right, this "Democracy" is going down the *******. Sad.
 
Tibs,
Quit acting the fool.
Elfie and Trog are too dim to learn, but you've now had well over a year of beating your head against a wall.
You're like the Stains FO trying to rationalize that Johnny Football was a franchise QB: they used bad intel/research, made a bad call, decided to try everything to justify their lack of critical decision skills, saw failure, accepted bullshit, ate crow and then eventually cut bait.
The point is, they got over their grief period.
You are still in the midst of your Factory of Libtardness.

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they used bad intel/research, made a bad call, decided to try everything to justify their lack of critical decision skills, saw failure, accepted bullshit, ate crow and then eventually cut bait.
The point is, they got over their grief period. You are still in the midst of your Factory of Libtardness.
The level of denial and delusion on this board is literally through the roof. Perhaps it's a form of Stockholm Syndrome, where you're so enamored with the idea that Trump's president you've accepted your fate and are willing to ignore facts and reality. Must be it, there really isn't any other explanation, besides the notion Trumpsters have been brainwashed by Fox and other right wing media. Golly, it must be a combination of the two!
 
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The level of denial and delusion on this board is literally through the roof. Perhaps it's a form of Stockholm Syndrome, where you're so enamored with the idea that Trump's president you've accepted you're fate and are willing to ignore facts and reality. Must be it, there really isn't any other explanation, besides the notion Trumpsters have been brainwashed by Fox and other right wing media. Golly, it must be a combination of the two!
Here is reality Tibs......Trump was elected President. Both the Senate and the House are Republican majorities. The Democratic Party is in ruins, it's corruption and dysfunction on full display. The Republican Party not much better. Trump is blowing the **** up, and is getting attacked from all sides because he threatens the Washington power structure. Everything else is just hope and speculation, and media spin. But go ahead. ..wear your pink ***** hat and march against whatever cause dujour you may have. After you march, the reality I described above will still be there.

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Here is reality Tibs......Trump was elected President. Both the Senate and the House are Republican majorities.
Duh, nobody is questioning that.

The Democratic Party is in ruins, it's corruption and dysfunction on full display. The Republican Party not much better.
I think the Democrats - as dysfunctional as they are - are still in a better place than the GOP, who've been unable to accomplish anything with a full majority in government. The onus is on them and Trump, to right the ship and get things done. Thus far, they've failed miserably.

Trump is blowing the **** up, and is getting attacked from all sides because he threatens the Washington power structure.
He's blowing **** up, you got that right. He's getting attacked because he's ******* insane and arguably the worst president the country's ever had. His 35% approval rating shows that. He's neck deep in a special counsel investigation which shows no sign of letting up, and is a living, walking breathing train wreck failing miserably at running the country.

Everything else is just hope and speculation, and media spin.
Exactly, including the delusional posters on this board who think everything is swell and going great for Trump. Again, it's a perfect example of the Stockholm Syndrome if there ever was one.
 
Duh, nobody is questioning that.

I think the Democrats - as dysfunctional as they are - are still in a better place than the GOP, who've been unable to accomplish anything with a full majority in government. The onus is on them and Trump, to right the ship and get things done. Thus far, they've failed miserably.

He's blowing **** up, you got that right. He's getting attacked because he's ******* insane and arguably the worst president the country's ever had. His 35% approval rating shows that. He's neck deep in a special counsel investigation which shows no sign of letting up, and is a living, walking breathing train wreck failing miserably at running the country.

Exactly, including the delusional posters on this board who think everything is swell and going great for Trump. Again, it's a perfect example of the Stockholm Syndrome if there ever was one.

I don't think most who voted for Trump ever expected a smooth ride on anything. I certainly didn't Everyone knew he was going to be heavily opposed by both established parties and would be universally hated in Washington. He would also be universally hated by Democrats and a good chunk of Republicans. I wanted him in the White House to get the ball rolling on the complete destruction of the current political system. So far, so good. I said many, many, many times leading up to the election that Trump winning was far more important than anything he would ever do as President. Because it changes the game 100% from now on. People realized that it's possible to reject the same old **** they get handed in every election cycle from both parties. It absolutely changed the game forever. As far as I'm concerned it's already mission accomplished.
 
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I don't think most who voted for Trump ever expected a smooth ride on anything. I certainly didn't Everyone knew he was going to be heavily opposed by both established parties and would be universally hated in Washington. He would also be universally hated by Democrats and a good chunk of Republicans. I wanted him in the White House to get the ball rolling on the complete destruction of the current political system. So far, so good. I said many, many, many times leading up to the election that Trump winning was far more important than anything he would ever do as President. Because it changes the game 100% from now on. People realized that it's possible to reject the same old **** they get handed in every election cycle from both parties. It absolutely changed the game forever. As far as I'm concerned it's already mission accomplished.
It must be cathartic for you to see the destruction of the American political system. The problem is, how is anything at all being improved? Change for the sake of change, that's all I'm seeing. The demolition of Obama's legacy with nothing to replace it with. Hollow promises being carried out frenetically, mindlessly with no real strategy or policy to put in its place. Chaos and confusion across the board. Healthcare reform, nothing. Immigration reform, nothing. Tax reform, nothing. Division and angst, at an all time high. If this is what you guys wanted from Trump, well then yeah, he's doing an excellent job. It's safe to presume this is exactly what Putin had in mind as well. I just hope he doesn't burn the whole country to the ground before he's done.
 
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Oh how I love the handwringing and teeth gnashing and hair pulling of Neo-Socialists. It is hilarious how when leftist lose things suddenly become destructive and divisive. When their guy wins gets in office and actively pits races, regions, and different economic classes against each other they call it progress. Yet another reason to find the political left contemptible.
 
Oh, and what were the biggest complaints against Obama? Executive orders and too much golfing.

What does Trump do? 10x the executive orders and 30x the golfing. Trump supporters? Standing ovation, '**** yeah, Trump is kicking ***!' LOL
 
I see you're going out of your way to brush aside and sugarcoat this.

I'm sure you're a fine lawyer. You say so yourself about fifteen times a day. Strikes me as odd how you're constantly trying to convince us of that. What does any of this have to do with you?

The fact you're trying to discredit the aptitude and preparedness of Mueller and the special counsel investigators tells me that you - like Trump - are in deep denial. No surprise, really, given your track record on this board.

This is Tibs MO...

Tibs:"OMG Mueller asked Jared Kushner for documents!"

Rational person: "Ok, is it big news that an investigator would ask for documents? Is Jared Kushner unwilling to hand over those documents? Are there any reports that there is any evidence of a crime in those documents? Doesn't your own article state that Kushner is not a target of the investigation?"

Tibs: "You'e in DENIAL!"
 
Oh but that's where you're wrong asked oh but that's where you're wrong. There were way more complaints about B-Rock then just executive orders and golfing. The trump executive orders have almost exclusively been about overturning Obama executive orders that did things that were bad for the country. As far as the golfing thing, at least President Trump is confining it to the weekends.
 
This is Tibs MO...Tibs:"OMG Mueller asked Jared Kushner for documents!" Rational person: "Ok, is it big news that an investigator would ask for documents? Is Jared Kushner unwilling to hand over those documents? Are there any reports that there is any evidence of a crime in those documents? Doesn't your own article state that Kushner is not a target of the investigation?" Tibs: "You'e in DENIAL!"
Read my initial Kushner post. There was no OMG, no nothing. The thread was being cluttered by Trumpsters saying this thing wasn't about Trump but that Mueller may be going after Hillary and the Dems. I then simply posted an article - that happened to hit the news cycle that day - about the Mueller-Kushner angle. No comment, no emoticons, no cheering, no nothing. A whole lot of you have a very strange case of the heebie jeebies around here.
 
As much as I enjoy reading this thread, I am done commenting about the investigation. I know how I see it, and there isn't another person here who sees it the same way I do. And that is ok.

Quite frankly, our country is being destroyed. By the right, by the left and probably many from outside our own borders. We are complicit in its destruction. Americans are completely divided by so many stupid, petty things that we have nothing in common with one another as a nation. We are no longer Americans. Americans are too busy having their emotions played with, with their heads in their phones to be able to look each other in the eye, have a civil conversation and come to the conclusion that we are all being duped by the ruling class. I am done arguing about any of it. Whatever happens, happens. My life will likely not change much one way or the other. Arguing with someone who is never going to agree or see your point of view is pointless.

I will still read and enjoy though.
 
What we are seeing is the self-destruction of the left and the Trump-led destruction of the corrupt establishment right. The draining of the swamp, and it's glorious. The GOPe is going to lose in the primaries next year and the republicans will gain even more seats. These are great times! The election of Trump is changing this country for the better, no mistake about it.


"Muh legacy!" *sniffle, wipes tear away...
 
As much as I enjoy reading this thread, I am done commenting about the investigation. I know how I see it, and there isn't another person here who sees it the same way I do. And that is ok.

Quite frankly, our country is being destroyed. By the right, by the left and probably many from outside our own borders. We are complicit in its destruction. Americans are completely divided by so many stupid, petty things that we have nothing in common with one another as a nation. We are no longer Americans. Americans are too busy having their emotions played with, with their heads in their phones to be able to look each other in the eye, have a civil conversation and come to the conclusion that we are all being duped by the ruling class. I am done arguing about any of it. Whatever happens, happens. My life will likely not change much one way or the other. Arguing with someone who is never going to agree or see your point of view is pointless.

I will still read and enjoy though.

Term limits!
 
It must be cathartic for you to see the destruction of the American political system. The problem is, how is anything at all being improved? Change for the sake of change, that's all I'm seeing. The demolition of Obama's legacy with nothing to replace it with. Hollow promises being carried out frenetically, mindlessly with no real strategy or policy to put in its place. Chaos and confusion across the board. Healthcare reform, nothing. Immigration reform, nothing. Tax reform, nothing. Division and angst, at an all time high. If this is what you guys wanted from Trump, well then yeah, he's doing an excellent job. It's safe to presume this is exactly what Putin had in mind as well. I just hope he doesn't burn the whole country to the ground before he's done.

Our country is in better shape now than it has been in the last 10 years. Unemployment down, people on welfare down. I've made more in my 401K in the past 9 months than the 4 previous years combined. Yeah America is in bad shape. I live here and work here, things continue to get better and better.
 
Duh, nobody is questioning that.

I think the Democrats - as dysfunctional as they are - are still in a better place than the GOP, who've been unable to accomplish anything with a full majority in government. The onus is on them and Trump, to right the ship and get things done. Thus far, they've failed miserably.

He's blowing **** up, you got that right. He's getting attacked because he's ******* insane and arguably the worst president the country's ever had. His 35% approval rating shows that. He's neck deep in a special counsel investigation which shows no sign of letting up, and is a living, walking breathing train wreck failing miserably at running the country.

Exactly, including the delusional posters on this board who think everything is swell and going great for Trump. Again, it's a perfect example of the Stockholm Syndrome if there ever was one.

Tibs, the Dems are losing more and more seats with every election. While it's cyclic and the Repubs are not exactly hanging on to every seat they hold, the fact is that the Dems absolutely are in a worse position than the Repubs. You now have Princess Lieawatha stating that the DNC was rigged for Hillary. You understand that, right? That means that no one other than Hillary would have had a shot to lead the Dems. No one. Not even your beloved Bernie. He did not stand a chance. All those college kids suddenly finding politics interesting because of Bernie were completely railroaded and **** on by the DNC...and somehow THAT is Trump's fault.

and while Trump isn't the most presidential ****** to ever grace the White House, he is absolutely ******* **** up. The **** he's ******* up is the same hogwash that is spread out to the peasants every election cycle...regardless of political party. Say one thing, do another completely different. Promise one thing, forget about it until the next election. Raise your salaries, while working less. The political parties have become the ruling class...they are no longer working FOR the people, but feel the people working for them. Case in point - Hillary Clinton. Unless it was an election, she could not be found doing jack nor ****. What most people remember her for is "what difference does it make?" remark in regards to US servicemen dying. This, after she "fell and bumped her head". It's all bullshit being fed to the American people. Mix and stir every couple years to keep the busy bees busy.

While I won't question where you get your 35% approval rating, I will state that I've never known of anyone to be asked what their opinion is of any sitting president for the purpose of a poll. I'd gander that the people being polled are not those working. I can't see these pollsters stopping a construction worker to check off some boxes. Nor can I see a delivery guy doing the same. Yet, I can easily see that the people being polled are either at shopping malls (during the day, mind you) or online polls (which can be falsified). That said, I've never put much credence in those polls. I didn't give a **** about Bush's approval rating, nor did I give a damn about your precious Obama's. So why would I care about Trump's, when the country was pretty much split on votes?

Constant division, as Sarge said. We're no longer Americans. We're African Americans, Latino Americans, etc, etc. Are Hungarians like that?

It must be cathartic for you to see the destruction of the American political system. The problem is, how is anything at all being improved? Change for the sake of change, that's all I'm seeing. The demolition of Obama's legacy with nothing to replace it with. Hollow promises being carried out frenetically, mindlessly with no real strategy or policy to put in its place. Chaos and confusion across the board. Healthcare reform, nothing. Immigration reform, nothing. Tax reform, nothing. Division and angst, at an all time high. If this is what you guys wanted from Trump, well then yeah, he's doing an excellent job. It's safe to presume this is exactly what Putin had in mind as well. I just hope he doesn't burn the whole country to the ground before he's done.

and while you want to say Trump cannot get anything done, please be reminded that since his inauguration he has been under constant fire from your side for A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G he does. From his steaks to Melania's heels to Baron's t-shirt choice. Surely you can see how this can be seen as bullshit, considering there are far bigger fish to fry than locker room talk about grabbing a *****. Not only does he have to deal with the NKs, the Iranians, ISIS and threats outside our border, he now also has to handle these AntiFA clowns, BLM *********, every made up gender wanting some special attention, and now Mueller who will be sifting through his excrement to determine how many Viagras he takes before throwing it to Melania.
 
oh, and please, please, please tell me what Jared Kushner was supposed to do when served a subpoena by Mueller?
Was he to ignore it?
Was Mueller to NOT question him? if he didn't the left would still scream about him.
 
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