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Blowing a 23 point lead is inexcusable!!!!

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Or is it? What a great first half. Birds were singing, the sun was shining. The offense was blowing people off the ball in the running game and the receiving game. Ben looked to be in All-pro form with nearly 300 yds. Bell had 100yds of total offense, and AB had over 100yds receiving. The Defense was humming. Worlids and JJ each got a sack (Equalling JJ's total from the previous year). Shazier was making plays. Not even a turnover deep in our territory hurt us, as the D sacked them out of FG range (though I don't know why they didn't go for the FG when their kicker was kicking them on kickoffs...) Halftime was great, wasn't it? I time to bask in the glory of the first half and start looking forward to seeing the Ravens on Thursday (and they were losing 15-0). This is going to be our year! Then it seemed like the teams switched jerseys at halftime. Out of the same formation, in hurry-up, the browns ran the waggle/bootleg option the entire 3rd qtr. Runs to the right seemed like trick plays, as West was tearing us up for 8-12 yds each play. Incredibly frustrating to watch. The crowd booed the defense when the game was tied, and that was the first time during the game, where I felt we had a chance to win again. The D was stout the rest of the way on the Brown's next 2 possessions, and Brad Wing, of all people, put in a fantastic game and helped us flip the field to get us in position to win. Which Ben, Wheaton, and Sushi helped to make it happen.

What a roller-coaster! Scoring 24, then letting up 24. We can blame the coaches, or the team's performance (and they do deserve some blame), but I see a trend starting in the league that is hell bent on making sure that offenses can score, and looking around the league in week 1, I saw it in action. Philadelphia down 17-0 vs JAX comes back in the second half and scores 34 unanswered points. I know, it's the Jags, but this trend is not isolated to bad teams. There's some teams that have been dominant for years that had their own issues on Sunday. Ravens were down 15-0 at the half, yet still came back to take the lead 16-15 in the 4th, but ultimately fell short. New Orleans goes up 13-0 and loses in OT (with 20 pts combined coming in about 5 min). New England goes up 20-10 at the half. The team with the super coach and Tom ******* Brady goes up by 10 points. Game, set, match. Nope, the Dolphins and Ryan Tannihill roll off 23 unanswered points to win in a rout. Hell the best team in the AFC, and some say in the league has to be immune to this phenomenon? After going up 24-0, The Colts had the ball, with possession at the end, in Denver territory, with a chance to tie/win under 2 minutes left. Even after the colts were stopped on a 4th and goal (earlier in the 2nd half) at the 1 and didn't convert.

This is the new NFL. Lots of scoring, lots of action, and the offense always seems to get the calls. I've seen a lot of CFL and Arena league games to know that the NFL is trying to get scoring the same way those other leagues get it. Is it good for the game? I'm not sure yet, but it seems that no lead is safe anymore, and it's something the fans are just going to have to get used to. Time to buy stock in Pepto Bismol I suppose...
 
Why dont you and your sunny optimism take a hike....




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I agree wholly. This was a learning experience (especially for the defense). Fortunately enough, our learning experience coincided with a Win
 
It's called adjustments

Or is it? What a great first half. Birds were singing, the sun was shining. The offense was blowing people off the ball in the running game and the receiving game. Ben looked to be in All-pro form with nearly 300 yds. Bell had 100yds of total offense, and AB had over 100yds receiving. The Defense was humming. Worlids and JJ each got a sack (Equalling JJ's total from the previous year). Shazier was making plays. Not even a turnover deep in our territory hurt us, as the D sacked them out of FG range (though I don't know why they didn't go for the FG when their kicker was kicking them on kickoffs...) Halftime was great, wasn't it? I time to bask in the glory of the first half and start looking forward to seeing the Ravens on Thursday (and they were losing 15-0). This is going to be our year! Then it seemed like the teams switched jerseys at halftime. Out of the same formation, in hurry-up, the browns ran the waggle/bootleg option the entire 3rd qtr. Runs to the right seemed like trick plays, as West was tearing us up for 8-12 yds each play. Incredibly frustrating to watch. The crowd booed the defense when the game was tied, and that was the first time during the game, where I felt we had a chance to win again. The D was stout the rest of the way on the Brown's next 2 possessions, and Brad Wing, of all people, put in a fantastic game and helped us flip the field to get us in position to win. Which Ben, Wheaton, and Sushi helped to make it happen.

What a roller-coaster! Scoring 24, then letting up 24. We can blame the coaches, or the team's performance (and they do deserve some blame), but I see a trend starting in the league that is hell bent on making sure that offenses can score, and looking around the league in week 1, I saw it in action. Philadelphia down 17-0 vs JAX comes back in the second half and scores 34 unanswered points. I know, it's the Jags, but this trend is not isolated to bad teams. There's some teams that have been dominant for years that had their own issues on Sunday. Ravens were down 15-0 at the half, yet still came back to take the lead 16-15 in the 4th, but ultimately fell short. New Orleans goes up 13-0 and loses in OT (with 20 pts combined coming in about 5 min). New England goes up 20-10 at the half. The team with the super coach and Tom ******* Brady goes up by 10 points. Game, set, match. Nope, the Dolphins and Ryan Tannihill roll off 23 unanswered points to win in a rout. Hell the best team in the AFC, and some say in the league has to be immune to this phenomenon? After going up 24-0, The Colts had the ball, with possession at the end, in Denver territory, with a chance to tie/win under 2 minutes left. Even after the colts were stopped on a 4th and goal (earlier in the 2nd half) at the 1 and didn't convert.

This is the new NFL. Lots of scoring, lots of action, and the offense always seems to get the calls. I've seen a lot of CFL and Arena league games to know that the NFL is trying to get scoring the same way those other leagues get it. Is it good for the game? I'm not sure yet, but it seems that no lead is safe anymore, and it's something the fans are just going to have to get used to. Time to buy stock in Pepto Bismol I suppose...

It's called halftime adjustments, something that seems to be entirely foreign to Tomlin and company. Good teams make adjustments to what the other team is doing.
 
I remember we lost a game like that in San Diego one year.
 
Of course it's excusable. We ended up winning, which means our problems have disappeared!
 
It's called halftime adjustments, something that seems to be entirely foreign to Tomlin and company. Good teams make adjustments to what the other team is doing.

A win is a win.

What adjustments did Belichick and Brady make yesterday? When they allowed Miami to score 23 unanswered points in the 2nd half. Hell, the best team in the AFC (Den by a wide margin), almost blew it on primetime TV.

I am surprised how dense people are to believe that, in this new 'no huddle' high octane offense NFL, that leads are as good as golden. Yea I wanted to throttle the Browns, and we should have not been as complacent on both sides of the ball. But for those of you who are pretending as if this was some unbelievable tragedy- then you havent been paying attention to the NFL lately
 
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A win is a win.

What adjustments did Belichick and Brady make yesterday? When they allowed Miami to score 23 unanswered points in the 2nd half. Hell, the best team in the AFC (Den by a wide margin), almost blew it on primetime TV.

I am surprised how dense people are to believe that, in this new 'no huddle' high octane offense NFL, that leads are as good as golden. Yea I wanted to throttle the Browns, and we should have not been as complacent on both sides of the ball. But for those of you who are pretending as if this was some unbelievable tragedy- then you havent been paying attention to the NFL lately


Only the Steelers are supposed to be perfect you know better BigApple.
 
Even the Broncos vaunted defense struggled with the no huddle dink and dunk and blew their lead. We need to adjust, but other teams are struggling with it too.
 
If his were an isolated event, it would be one thing. But it's not. Not only did we play complacently as usual, all of our flaws were on display. O-line, same as every year. Red zone offense, same as every year. Run D, nothing new. Giving up big pass plays to the likes of Jim Dray and Co, nothing new. Tons of big penalties, nothing new.

We were not just a hair from perfection yesterday. And these issues have been in place for as long as I can remember. We have some promising young faces, but as of now few if any issues have been fixed.
 
If his were an isolated event, it would be one thing. But it's not. Not only did we play complacently as usual, all of our flaws were on display. O-line, same as every year. Red zone offense, same as every year. Run D, nothing new. Giving up big pass plays to the likes of Jim Dray and Co, nothing new. Tons of big penalties, nothing new.

We were not just a hair from perfection yesterday. And these issues have been in place for as long as I can remember. We have some promising young faces, but as of now few if any issues have been fixed.

what did you see that would make an improvement by Thursday?
 
well, obviously you saw ****** play.
what would you do to correct it by Thursday?
 
It is the BROWNS. We almost lost to the BROWNS!!! Brian Hoyer with no Tate, no Gordon tied up the game after leading by 24 at half time. We won and some last minute defensive stands and offensive drive sealed the deal but if we need to play like that team in the first half, not the second half to win the division.
 
Did any of these teams lead their lead to a journeyman QB playing without their top RB, Tate, their best receiver, Jordan , and with two rookies torching their run defense ?
 
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Not only must we win we must win a certain way. Gotcha. No one wanted to piss that lead away. But the Browns and their top ten Oline and top ten defense get paid too. We arent perfect and knew that going in but we are expected to play perfect.
 
If his were an isolated event, it would be one thing. But it's not. Not only did we play complacently as usual, all of our flaws were on display. O-line, same as every year. Red zone offense, same as every year. Run D, nothing new. Giving up big pass plays to the likes of Jim Dray and Co, nothing new. Tons of big penalties, nothing new.

We were not just a hair from perfection yesterday. And these issues have been in place for as long as I can remember. We have some promising young faces, but as of now few if any issues have been fixed.

Yes! Same ****, different year. Why anyone wants to pretend differently is beyond me.
 
A win is a win.






What adjustments did Belichick and Brady make yesterday? When they allowed Miami to score 23 unanswered points in the 2nd half. Hell, the best team in the AFC (Den by a wide margin), almost blew it on primetime TV.

I am surprised how dense people are to believe that, in this new 'no huddle' high octane offense NFL, that leads are as good as golden. Yea I wanted to throttle the Browns, and we should have not been as complacent on both sides of the ball. But for those of you who are pretending as if this was some unbelievable tragedy- then you havent been paying attention to the NFL platelet[/QUOTE

Did any of these teams blow the lead completely to a journeyman QB playing without their top RB, Tate, their best receiver, Jordan , and with two rookies torching their run defense ?
 
Not only must we win we must win a certain way. Gotcha. No one wanted to piss that lead away. But the Browns and their top ten Oline and top ten defense get paid too. We arent perfect and knew that going in but we are expected to play perfect.

LOL. Like anyone here is expecting "perfection."

I guess "blowing a 24-point lead to a bottom-feeding offense" and "perfection" are the only two options?
 
Nope last I checked winning and losing were the two options. Then you practice all week on what you ****** up.
 
Even the Eagles struggled and almost lost to a Jaguars team that finished 4-12 last year. In the NFL you take wins how you can get them.
 
Of course it's excusable. We ended up winning, which means our problems have disappeared!

You complain about being misquoted and continually do this type of ****. NOBODY said the problems have disappeared. The Steelers went to **** in the second half, just like a few other teams did yesterday. None o the problems are going anywhere, fortunately in today's NFL. A win is a win, while that's shortsighted it is a fact. That ****** second half doesn't mean the win doesn't count for any less than had they played sixty minutes and throttled the **** out of them. You and a select few "true fans" aren't the only ones that are sick of the bullshit.
 
We don't have a week

Nope last I checked winning and losing were the two options. Then you practice all week on what you ****** up.

We have four days to fix our problems - even without Ray Rice, the Ravens are a better team than the Browns and we'll be facing them at home and they can't afford to lose two division games in a row. This will be a good test of whether we can make adjustments.
 
what I heard several times is that our D was not prepared for the hurry-up in the second half. They were caught off guard with it. THAT, more than anything concerns me. Yea, we eeked out the win and that's great we are 1-0, but Brian Hoyer looked like Joe Montana in the second half and we had little to say about it. I'm not sure if it's the scheme or players or both.
 
We have four days to fix our problems - even without Ray Rice, the Ravens are a better team than the Browns and we'll be facing them at home and they can't afford to lose two division games in a row. This will be a good test of whether we can make adjustments.

Yep the keys will be can we run the ball against the Ravens whom we always struggle to run against. And can our tackles block Suggs and Dumerville.

Defensively stop the run and make Flacco throw like the Bengals did. Easier said then done after sunday's game. Ravens Oline is not as good as the Browns though. Their WRs are though. Will be interesting.
 
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