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Brady retiring

Slovan Sam said:
Actually, it's not just Pats fans that think preponderance of evidence isn't proof of guilt. Anyone who understands the law when proof beyond a reasonable doubt isn't required knows this. In a civil case, you only have to believe that it's more probable than not (50.1%) that something occurred. The NFL didn't have to be certain that Brady / Pats were guilty. They only had to conclude that there was a 50.1% chance or better that it happened. FAR from proving guilt.
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Uhh, idiot, proving that the Cheatriots cheated by 50.1% of the evidence is proving they cheated. Why the ******* hell do you think the league has to prove cheating or indeed any violation of league policy meriting punishment "beyond a reasonable doubt," i.e., the level of proof needed for a criminal conviction in the United States?

Preponderance of the evidence is sufficient for the OSHA to prove a civil violation that could yield substantial fines, or upon a showing of repeated violations (by a preponderance of the evidence), an order shutting down a business.

Further, you have literally no idea how clearly the league showed the cheating. You keep arguing that the cheating was proven by no more than a preponderance of the evidence. No, the cheating was in fact proven by a preponderance of the evidence - the applicable standard - but that certainly does NOT mean it was not proven by something more, such as clear and convincing evidence or beyond a reasonable doubt.

Every case that fails to meet the preponderance of the evidence standard fails to meet the higher beyond a reasonable doubt standard, but cases that meet the preponderance of the evidence standard do NOT thereby fail to meet the beyond a reasonable doubt standard. Every dog is a mammal, but not every mammal is a dog.
 
I cant imagine how empty my live would have to be in order for me to sign up on another teams message board and pretend to be a fan for a few days.

I hope this guy gets the help he needs. maybe buy a puppy?
 
Litos said:
I think it's time to ignore the troll, he has to live with his tainted trophies, we live with 6 rings to be fully proud of
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I hear yaz Litos and a troll he is but also he is that type that doesn't know what reasoning and facts are, just weak bullshit made up.




Salute the nation
 
Slovan Sam said:
Ok. Not my idol, but your initial assertion was that he sucked. He was 9-2 against the Steelers in the last decade.
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Congratulations...You win a cookie.

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So tell me again where you're from and when you started following the Steelers?
 
Slovan Sam said:
Djfan -

Are you able to articulate what I have been incorrect about? I'd be curious to know and to have the opportunity to defend my position.

From my perspective, it almost sounds as if you are saying you would rather not have members here who base their assertions on facts? Is this correct? If so, what about fallacy do you enjoy exactly? Please advise.
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Nope. No one can.
 
Drink IRON City said:
I hear yaz Litos and a troll he is but also he is that type that doesn't know what reasoning and facts are, just weak bullshit made up.




Salute the nation
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Dic - Are you able to point out what I've stated that is made up? Please advise.
 
Djfan said:
There's an old name.
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All three could be one in the same but there is one thing for certain,................ they are all weak minded ******* idiot trolls that
can't understand ******** in one hand and wishing in the other................... results





Salute the nation
 
Slovan Sam said:
Dic - Are you able to point out what I've stated that is made up? Please advise.
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NO I can't, you speak the gospel truth on every subject you have tackled and add enlightening context as well.!!!





Salute the nation
 
Slovan Sam said:
Ok. You just made this up.


For at least the 3rd time now, evidence beyond a reasonable doubt was not required in Spy Gate. It was solely based on a preponderance of the evidence and they only had to be 50.1% sure that the violation occurred. They didn't have to be proven guilty and they never were.

Ok. But you're making up stuff again.

Finally, something that wasn't based on misguided opinions or lies.

If Belichick conceding that he misunderstood the rules means "caught red handed", ok.

More assertions that are based on biased opinions, not facts. Unless of course you personally reviewed the evidence.
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Uh no…..unless you can answer the original question.

By my count you’ve been asked a dozen times to answer the question. If there was no guilt, why was there fines and draft penalties? You are using a Op Ed to support your opinion. Understand research, you need fact based evidence to support your opinion. Biased opinions go both ways.

Just like you are actually a Patriot fan and Brady groupie.

His misunderstanding wasn’t isolated in the investigation to the Jets game. He was warned at least twice by the League since 2002 and ignored the warning.

Your assertions are based on supposition that is convenient with the absence of the empirical evidence destroyed by Goodell. The evidence discussed that resulted in the fines and franchise penalties and included the taping of walkthroughs, sideline hand signals and the misappropriation of other teams materials. All from witness accounts from various former staff members and from your team owner’s production company.

why don’t you go back to your Patriot Board and discuss if Belichick will allow Marcia to retire as a Patriot.
 
JMM said:
Congratulations...You win a cookie.

iu



So tell me again where you're from and when you started following the Steelers?
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Crap Game, One of the all time great movie characters!
 
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BLITZ said:
I cant imagine how empty my live would have to be in order for me to sign up on another teams message board and pretend to be a fan for a few days.

I hope this guy gets the help he needs. maybe buy a puppy?
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Hi Blitz. I can't imagine that either. I believe I have already stated more than once that I am a Steelers fan. And I don't have time for a puppy. Thanks
 
Steeltime said:
Uhh, idiot, proving that the Cheatriots cheated by 50.1% of the evidence is proving they cheated.
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Steeltime - have you ever been pretty sure of something? Not 100%, but pretty sure? Assuming you were pretty sure of something at least once in your life, does that mean that you proved it to be true?
 
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