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Covid Vaccine

Natural immunity may last you a couple of months, maybe half a year, if you're lucky. Previous strains of Covid may not give you *any* immunity from Omicron, and whatever newer strains are still around the corner.

Based on what? They may? There have been articles posted here showing that people with natural immunity still have robust antibodies 12 months later, and in some cases 18 months or more. And based on what we are seeing with Omicron, the vaccines aren't doing a whole lot to slow the spread.
 
Natural immunity may last you a couple of months, maybe half a year, if you're lucky. Previous strains of Covid may not give you *any* immunity from Omicron, and whatever newer strains are still around the corner. A single shot, or even two shots from years ago without a booster will only provide minimal protection for you, at this stage. It is a fact the vaccine (2x + booster) will *highly likely* keep you from dying or falling gravely ill. Keep pushing the anti-vaccine angle, Tim. That's really the important take-away here. /sic Good luck to all those taking Tim's advice. Hope you make it okay. Stay safe & healthy, folks. If you wanna take a simple step of greatly increasing your chances of beating this thing, get the vaccine, get the booster shot. If you don't, then don't. 🤷‍♂️

To anyone saying Tim's just arguing the vaccine may not be safe for everyone. Bullshit. He and his insipid cohorts have been arguing point blank against the vaccine, in broad strokes, for hundreds of pages now. I understand full well there may be legit medical exceptions to getting the shot. That is not what this is about.
Tibs did you see my article about menstrual cycles? It has affected both my wife and daughter making them longer and more irregular. That should cause some concern for women my daughters age(25) and what else it may be doing to their systems. We are pushing these and we still don't know what we don't know and we are ******* around with the entire species with these bullshit mandates.
 
Covid has caused nearly 6M deaths worldwide.

9.79 billion doses of this so-called *experimental* vaccine have been administered globally, and 30.15 million are now administered each day.

It is a fact the 2x vaccination + booster shot will *highly likely* keep you from dying or falling seriously ill.

I'll take my chances, as far as possible side effects at this point.
 
Covid has caused nearly 6M deaths worldwide.

9.79 billion doses of this so-called *experimental* vaccine have been administered globally, and 30.15 million are now administered each day.

It is a fact the 2x vaccination + booster shot will *highly likely* keep you from dying or falling seriously ill.

I'll take my chances, as far as possible side effects at this point.
YOu know what also makes you highly likely to not die or fall ill? Not getting the vaccine. Yes it improves the odds but the odds are miniscule to begin with. You are welcome to take the risk of the shot, I did. I wish we weren't pushing it on young people who have almost no more risk without the vaccine than they have with the vaccine. If we had only vaccinated the at risk and elderly we would see pretty much the exact same numbers as we see now with far less concern about the future.
 
Covid has caused nearly 6M deaths worldwide.

9.79 billion doses of this so-called *experimental* vaccine have been administered globally, and 30.15 million are now administered each day.

It is a fact the 2x vaccination + booster shot will *highly likely* keep you from dying or falling seriously ill.

I'll take my chances, as far as possible side effects at this point.
5,583,507 deaths, if you trust the numbers out of 7,872,800,750 people on the planet. Sad but not world altering or even all that significant scientifically. 00.0709214% of the entire world population and by estimates maybe 20% or more didn't actually die from covid or covid related issues but simply tested positive for it. That doesn't justify the sit show we have seen from this virus. God forbid we ever have a pandemic with significant mortality rates, no one will listen anymore because the overwrought hype on this.
 
Covid has caused nearly 6M deaths worldwide.

9.79 billion doses of this so-called *experimental* vaccine have been administered globally, and 30.15 million are now administered each day.

It is a fact the 2x vaccination + booster shot will *highly likely* keep you from dying or falling seriously ill.

I'll take my chances, as far as possible side effects at this point.
I was mainly referring to your claims on natural immunity.

As for the rest, I have 2x vaccinations, and I have had COVID. If I am not protected, then there is no protection. I am done getting COVID shots.
 
The 8 year old nephew of one of my wife's coworkers died yesterday. He started to cough, got sick to his stomach, had shortness of breath. He died at the ER within a couple hours.

Guess what, he got his first shot a couple days prior. Coincidence?

The father of the boy lost his wife to cancer a couple years before and is totally distraught. My wife's coworker is flying out to be with the family today. The deceased boy's brother is a year older and lost his mom and his little brother. Can't imagine what they are going through.
 
Natural immunity may last you a couple of months, maybe half a year, if you're lucky. Previous strains of Covid may not give you *any* immunity from Omicron, and whatever newer strains are still around the corner. A single shot, or even two shots from years ago without a booster will only provide minimal protection for you, at this stage. It is a fact the vaccine (2x + booster) will *highly likely* keep you from dying or falling gravely ill. Keep pushing the anti-vaccine angle, Tim. That's really the important take-away here. /sic Good luck to all those taking Tim's advice. Hope you make it okay. Stay safe & healthy, folks. If you wanna take a simple step of greatly increasing your chances of beating this thing, get the vaccine, get the booster shot. If you don't, then don't. 🤷‍♂️

To anyone saying Tim's just arguing the vaccine may not be safe for everyone. Bullshit. He and his insipid cohorts have been arguing point blank against the vaccine, in broad strokes, for hundreds of pages now. I understand full well there may be legit medical exceptions to getting the shot. That is not what this is about.
Or actually even up to five years if you believe in science.


The human body makes everyone's response to infection, vaccinations, vaccination then infection different. It's not one size fits all.
But it's only been around 2 years since this things been with us, and we have to play the waiting game for many of our questions to be answered.
Crazy how much ideas/science/definitions have changed just in those two years, though huh?
 
Natural immunity may last you a couple of months, maybe half a year, if you're lucky.

Misinformation and flat out wrong. We have provided you with countless studies. Some showing lasting immunity up to 18 months. All show far more than a half a year. The vaccines begin waning at 2-3 months.

Previous strains of Covid may not give you *any* immunity from Omicron, and whatever newer strains are still around the corner.

Misinformation and flat out wrong. Studies from Israel and other countries show that the vaccines and the boosters (which are just additional doses of the original vaccine) don't work against Omicron. This is why cases have skyrocketed in Israel and they are discussing a FIFTH BOOSTER. Hit the back button, this data has been posted. There is only theory at this point that natural immunity does not work against Omicron. We know that the current boosters and shots DO NOT. In fact, Pfizer admitted they won't have a booster geared for Omicron until March, after which it will likely be gone.

A single shot, or even two shots from years ago without a booster will only provide minimal protection for you, at this stage.

True, if any.

It is a fact the vaccine (2x + booster) will *highly likely* keep you from dying or falling gravely ill.

Yes, the vaccines help in that area. With Omicron, we don't know. What you leave out are the naturally immune. And as shown in the headlines, world-wide news yesterday - natural immunity is superior to vaccinated immunity.

I'm sorry you disagree with the science.

To anyone saying Tim's just arguing the vaccine may not be safe for everyone. Bullshit. He and his insipid cohorts have been arguing point blank against the vaccine, in broad strokes, for hundreds of pages now. I understand full well there may be legit medical exceptions to getting the shot. That is not what this is about.

The vaccines are not safe nor needed for everyone. Kids do not need the shots. More kids die from drinking. That's fact.

I support the vaccines for those who need it. Like my parents. Those who are ill. Those with comorbidities. I've said this time and again, and just like Flog, you put words in people's mouths.

I'm against mandating it for everyone and for personal choice. Not everyone needs the jabs. That's a fact.

And I'll repeat for the 327th time - I'm anti-these-vaccines. Give me Novavax or a traditionally developed vaccine and I'll step right up.
 
You're a liar. America has 331 million people according to the 2020 census. Right now, only those ages 6 and above are even ELIGIBLE for the goddamn shot. So what is the population of Americans 6 and over and how many have had the shot?

Population of children ages 0-5: 24.6 million


So the eligible population is 306.4 million people (331,000,000 - 24,600,000)

Of those 306 million, a total number who have had a shot is 247,987,225


306,000,000 - 247,987,225 = 58,112,775

58,112,775 << 100,000,000

Don't argue with Flogtard, he is a maff genius.

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So the vaccines are having unintended side effects? Who knew? Damn maybe we should research them some more before pushing them on the age bearing population. I realize this in and of itself is not a huge issue but it sure means there are things going on with these vaccines that we don't understand yet.


Fake news. The board's resident geniuses have told us they are safe and do not affect women's reproductive cycles.
 
Covid has caused nearly 6M deaths worldwide.

9.79 billion doses of this so-called *experimental* vaccine have been administered globally, and 30.15 million are now administered each day.

It is a fact the 2x vaccination + booster shot will *highly likely* keep you from dying or falling seriously ill.

I'll take my chances, as far as possible side effects at this point.

And if you don't take the jab, those 60 and under have a 99.87% chance of survival. Stop the fear porn Tibsticles.

Allow people the choice to do what is right for their bodies and make that choice.

Seems like a familiar tag line I've heard somewhere before...my body, my choice?
 
To anyone saying Tim's just arguing the vaccine may not be safe for everyone. Bullshit.

The WHO is saying they aren't for everyone. But WHO are they, am I right?

W.H.O. — ‘No reason for teenagers to get Boosters, none’​



The narrative is breaking piece by piece.

When the walls
(When the walls)
Come tumblin' down
When the walls
Come crumblin', crumblin'
When the walls
Come tumblin', tumblin'
Crumblin', tumblin'
Down
 
The WHO is saying they aren't for everyone. But WHO are they, am I right?

W.H.O. — ‘No reason for teenagers to get Boosters, none’​



The narrative is breaking piece by piece.

When the walls
(When the walls)
Come tumblin' down
When the walls
Come crumblin', crumblin'
When the walls
Come tumblin', tumblin'
Crumblin', tumblin'
Down

She will get cancelled next.
 
no they ******* can't you imbecile! not unless this virus has gotten far more deadly and virulent than it was previously, which it hasn't. You are ******* clueless on this Trog. Based on the numbers we saw before the vaccines their is no possible way for that small a subset to be responsible for the numbers greater than we saw before the vaccines.
You need to look up the definition of “could” and contrast that with the definition of “are”. The unvaccinated most certainly COULD account for all cases, hospitalizations and deaths. Absolutely possible. That’s simple math.

And you forget about “more contagious” which Omicron certainly is.
 
You need to look up the definition of “could” and contrast that with the definition of “are”. The unvaccinated most certainly COULD account for all cases, hospitalizations and deaths. Absolutely possible. That’s simple math.

And you forget about “more contagious” which Omicron certainly is.

And you forget the spanking Steeltime gave you about how many are unvaxed - about 58M out of 331M.
And you forget that a substantial % of those will be naturally immune.
And you forget that yesterday it was made official that natural immunity trumps vaccinated immunity.

Our current 3x record setting cases in the USA are emphatically not being 100% driven by the unvaccinated.

Not...even...close.
 
The only thing I am confusing is that you might actually have 2 brain cells instead of one.

Your 1st grade retort leaves out - what % of that 100M includes people with natural immunity, which officially is superior to vaccination now?

And no. The vaccinated are driving cases here and a substantial portion of them. The State of PA's data alone shows 42% of their current cases are vaccinated people, a % that is growing rapidly.

The unvaxed are not driving 100% of the cases. The notion that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated was debunked at the national level months ago. They've stopped harping on it, because they know it isn't true. You continue to harp on it.

Stunner!
Again with the natural immunity. Its quite clear that prior infection doesn’t prevent Covid. You of all people should know that.

Who stopped harping?

 
You're a liar. America has 331 million people according to the 2020 census. Right now, only those ages 6 and above are even ELIGIBLE for the goddamn shot. So what is the population of Americans 6 and over and how many have had the shot?

Population of children ages 0-5: 24.6 million


So the eligible population is 306.4 million people (331,000,000 - 24,600,000)

Of those 306 million, a total number who have had a shot is 247,987,225


306,000,000 - 247,987,225 = 58,112,775

58,112,775 << 100,000,000
Dipshit, eligible or not, they’re still UNVACCINATED.
 
And you forget the spanking Steeltime gave you about how many are unvaxed - about 58M out of 331M.
And you forget that a substantial % of those will be naturally immune.
And you forget that yesterday it was made official that natural immunity trumps vaccinated immunity.

Our current 3x record setting cases in the USA are emphatically not being 100% driven by the unvaccinated.

Not...even...close.
Naturally immune!

How’s about you go back and read your posts from last spring declaring that herd immunity was here thanks to natural immunity and then consider what the **** you’re doing still harping about it.
 
YOu know what also makes you highly likely to not die or fall ill? Not getting the vaccine. Yes it improves the odds but the odds are miniscule to begin with. You are welcome to take the risk of the shot, I did. I wish we weren't pushing it on young people who have almost no more risk without the vaccine than they have with the vaccine. If we had only vaccinated the at risk and elderly we would see pretty much the exact same numbers as we see now with far less concern about the future.
Except… Covid also has many side effects, many of which are bizarre.
 
The WHO is saying they aren't for everyone. But WHO are they, am I right?

W.H.O. — ‘No reason for teenagers to get Boosters, none’​



The narrative is breaking piece by piece.

When the walls
(When the walls)
Come tumblin' down
When the walls
Come crumblin', crumblin'
When the walls
Come tumblin', tumblin'
Crumblin', tumblin'
Down

That’s boosters, Tim, not vaccination. And it’s not the first time the WHO has pushed back on boosters.
 
Or actually even up to five years if you believe in science.


The human body makes everyone's response to infection, vaccinations, vaccination then infection different. It's not one size fits all.
But it's only been around 2 years since this things been with us, and we have to play the waiting game for many of our questions to be answered.
Crazy how much ideas/science/definitions have changed just in those two years, though huh?
Science is based on observation. Nobody has observed anyone having natural immunity to Covid after five years. “May” does not equal science.
 
Except… Covid also has many side effects, many of which are bizarre.
This is true but what we are seeing is the vaccine can cause many of these same side effects. The chances of the bad effects are far less in the young. YOu keep totally ignoring the basic math. There is no ******* need to vaccinate most young people. None. Not when you look at the overall odds.
 
Science is based on observation. Nobody has observed anyone having natural immunity to Covid after five years. “May” does not equal science.
Fixed it for you for clarity of your hypocrisy.
Science is based on observation. Nobody has observed anyone having lasting immunity to Covid from vaccines after five years. “May” does not equal science.
We have in fact observed the significant waning of vaccines efficacy after a far shorter time period particularly in comparison to natural immunity.
 
You need to look up the definition of “could” and contrast that with the definition of “are”. The unvaccinated most certainly COULD account for all cases, hospitalizations and deaths. Absolutely possible. That’s simple math.

And you forget about “more contagious” which Omicron certainly is.
No they couldn't based on the actual science of this disease you giant ball of rhinoceros snot. I explained why and yet you ignore all logic.
 
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