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Covid Vaccine

I’m saying the doctors are right. Tim, who never came close to going to med school, is saying they are wrong.

You've been saying 100% of doctors have have been 100% right since 2020.

Tim is saying many have been very wrong many times.

Quite a different position.

Ivermectin, Vitamin D, intubating patients, Remdesivir, avoiding early treatments, forcing vaccines on infants, children and teens, advocating for lockdowns, etc, and so forth.
 
THe boosters don't protect against the new strains. They failed. Period.
And they destroy natural immunity too, right? But somehow cases, deaths and hospitalizations have remained low for months despite most people having received at least some, if not all, of the vaccinations and boosters.

Do explain.
 
And survived? Whawhawhawhat???

As did their 50+ year old unvaccinated parents.

99.87% of us do you know - without the poison.

Actually, the survivability rate is much higher now with weaker variants.
 
And they destroy natural immunity too, right?

Yep. That's the medical article you so badly misinterpreted, it made a monkey ******* a football look like ballet.
 
Yep. That's the medical article you so badly misinterpreted, it made a monkey ******* a football look like ballet.
Your. Own. Sad. Version. Of. Reality.

 
Posted today in one of my company's comms channels.

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You literally just pointed out that natural immunity only works against THAT STRAIN only to turn around and suggest that people consider their natural immunity before getting a booster… which protects against MULTIPLE STRAINS.

I’m saying the doctors are right. Tim, who never came close to going to med school, is saying they are wrong.
speaking of being wrong.

 
You literally just pointed out that natural immunity only works against THAT STRAIN only to turn around and suggest that people consider their natural immunity before getting a booster… which protects against MULTIPLE STRAINS.

I’m saying the doctors are right. Tim, who never came close to going to med school, is saying they are wrong.
 
Your. Own. Sad. Version. Of. Reality.


You posted that before. We debunked the Reuters article, before.

There's no misinterpreting the data in the study.

Say a scientist posts a study about Campbells Tomato Soup and concludes it's good for humans because of different nutrients it provides. But in the same study, the high sodium content of the soup is also shown. But he doesn't write about it, at all. Focusing on the good only, and ignoring the sodium doesn't make the negatives about the high sodium content 'disappear'.

The NEJM article presented a lot of data and came to a conclusion while focusing on one set of data (the nutrients) and wholly ignored the damning information they shared (the sodium). We appreciate them sharing it, trust me.

It's one of many explanations as to why so many vaccinated people are getting Covid 2, 3, 5, 6 times.
 
Yay lockdowns. More of the damage we will be counting for decades to come.

 
You posted that before. We debunked the Reuters article, before.

There's no misinterpreting the data in the study.

Say a scientist posts a study about Campbells Tomato Soup and concludes it's good for humans because of different nutrients it provides. But in the same study, the high sodium content of the soup is also shown. But he doesn't write about it, at all. Focusing on the good only, and ignoring the sodium doesn't make the negatives about the high sodium content 'disappear'.

The NEJM article presented a lot of data and came to a conclusion while focusing on one set of data (the nutrients) and wholly ignored the damning information they shared (the sodium). We appreciate them sharing it, trust me.

It's one of many explanations as to why so many vaccinated people are getting Covid 2, 3, 5, 6 times.
😂 So, Dr. Lin and his team at UNC who have been published in the NEJM are wrong, and Tim is right… because Campbell’s Soup? Submit that as a dissenting opinion to NEJM, fame and fortune awaits!

The article went into great detail to explain how the study was misrepresented.

Again, you’re sadly delusional. What a maddening reality you must endure.
 
😂 So, Dr. Lin and his team at UNC who have been published in the NEJM are wrong, and Tim is right… because Campbell’s Soup? Submit that as a dissenting opinion to NEJM, fame and fortune awaits!

The article went into great detail to explain how the study was misrepresented.

Again, you’re sadly delusional. What a maddening reality you must endure.
so how did thanksgiving go?

did everyone mask up?
did you provide masks for those who did not have them?
did you pre-screen everyone and ensure they were vaccinated?
did you avoid contaminating the food as you pulled down your mask to eat?
when telling what you were thankful for, did you include your mask?
did you mask up while telling what you were thankful for?
did you thank 3M for making your mask?
if you had deaf/hard of hearing people there, how did you communicate with them via your mask?
were fist bumps and elbow rubs replacing handshakes and hugs?
did you space people six feet apart? safety first!
were the air ducts cleaned before and after the gathering?
who washed the dishes?
if you used disposable plates and knives, were those placed in recycling? if you used disposable plates, were those styrofoam or paper? if styrofoam, you know those damage the planet. Paper plates were made from cutting down trees, thereby increasing CO2 levels. What was used to cut down the trees? chainsaws emit CO2 and cutting down a tree would only increase the CO2 levels.

so many questions, flog. please enlighten us on how we can be Flog-like.
 
so how did thanksgiving go?

did everyone mask up?
did you provide masks for those who did not have them?
did you pre-screen everyone and ensure they were vaccinated?
did you avoid contaminating the food as you pulled down your mask to eat?
when telling what you were thankful for, did you include your mask?
did you mask up while telling what you were thankful for?
did you thank 3M for making your mask?
if you had deaf/hard of hearing people there, how did you communicate with them via your mask?
were fist bumps and elbow rubs replacing handshakes and hugs?
did you space people six feet apart? safety first!
were the air ducts cleaned before and after the gathering?
who washed the dishes?
if you used disposable plates and knives, were those placed in recycling? if you used disposable plates, were those styrofoam or paper? if styrofoam, you know those damage the planet. Paper plates were made from cutting down trees, thereby increasing CO2 levels. What was used to cut down the trees? chainsaws emit CO2 and cutting down a tree would only increase the CO2 levels.

so many questions, flog. please enlighten us on how we can be Flog-like.
Deflect much? You’ve misinterpreted my Thanksgiving.
 
Deflect much? You’ve misinterpreted my Thanksgiving.
deflect? no.
i'm truly interested. and should be, seeing as how you've touted your morality by masking up 100% of the time and supportive of the mask mandate. so, do tell how your Thanksgiving went - since YOU were the one who brought it up a few pages ago.
 
😂 So, Dr. Lin and his team at UNC who have been published in the NEJM are wrong

We've already debunked the debunking article, as said. Analyze Dr. Lin's responses in the article you shared. Sometimes he doesn't address the questions directly, and others he literally says "the lines on the graph don't actually reflect real data, they just show a trajectory." :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Yep, science does that a lot. All the time, yep. Scientists provide research studies full of data then when the Govt and the MSM turns on the science for exposing something they don't want exposed, the scientists then claim the data isn't the data, that the graphs are only "half data", etc.

He's saying "we didn't intend to show what we actually did." LMAO. Great fact check from an 'in the tank' MSM, Liberal-donating rag.

These are direct quotes from the study, quotes you utterly misinterpreted:
  • The Naturally Immune: "Among unvaccinated children, the estimated effectiveness of omicron infection against reinfection with omicron was 90.7% at 2 months and 62.9% at 4 months"
  • The Vaccinated: "Among previously uninfected children, vaccine effectiveness reached 63.2% at 4 weeks after the first dose and decreased to 15.5% at 16 weeks (4 months)"
Dr. Lin and Reuters are doing a fast backtrack. Why didn't they ask him what the vaccine effectiveness was at 6 months? 8? Hmmm.

Great article Shortbus. LOL
 
deflect? no.
i'm truly interested. and should be, seeing as how you've touted your morality by masking up 100% of the time and supportive of the mask mandate. so, do tell how your Thanksgiving went - since YOU were the one who brought it up a few pages ago.

We're all still waiting on him to have the sac to respond to Steeltime's simple questions.

Maybe you should ask Shortbus those simple questions.
 
deflect? no.
i'm truly interested. and should be, seeing as how you've touted your morality by masking up 100% of the time and supportive of the mask mandate. so, do tell how your Thanksgiving went - since YOU were the one who brought it up a few pages ago.
He was lying. He doesnt have friends.
 
Yep. Not only the NIH, but the CDC is now 'quietly' admitting it.


Official figures quietly published by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) confirm nearly half a million children and young adults have died ever since the Food & Drug Administration first granted emergency use authorisation to a Covid-19 vaccine in the USA.

This has sadly resulted in nearly 118,000 excess deaths compared to the 2015-2019 average.

The figures also reveal that there have been 7,680 more excess deaths among children and young adults in 2022 so far compared to the same time frame in 2020 at the height of the alleged Covid-19 pandemic.

But the year 2021 was by and large the worst year for deaths among 0 to 44-year-olds, with 291,461 excess deaths in total, nearly 60,000 more than occurred in 2020. And according to the official CDC figures, this was mainly due to a mysterious sudden rise in deaths among children and young adults from around week 31 onwards.

Unfortunately, according to data published by the UK Government, that “mysterious” sudden rise which has contributed to half a million American children and young adults dying since late 2020, is most likely due to the Covid-19 injections.


Compared to other countries, the U.S. Government has been terrible at publishing relevant and up-to-date data allowing us to analyse the consequences of rolling out the Covid-19 injections. However, we have finally managed to stumble upon it thanks to an institution known as the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OEC).

The OEC is an intergovernmental organisation with 38 member countries founded in 1961 to stimulate economic progress and world trade. And for some reason, they host a wealth of data on excess deaths. You can find that data for yourself here.

The following chart has been created using the figures found in the OEC database. Figures that have been provided to the OEC by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC). And it shows excess deaths among children and young adults aged 0-44 across the USA by week in 2020 and 2021.

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The official figures reveal that there was a slight increase in excess deaths among children and young adults when the alleged Covid-19 pandemic hit the US in early 2020.

However, with the introduction of a Covid-19 injection, one would have expected deaths to have fallen significantly among the age group in 2021. But instead, the opposite happened.

Excess deaths among children and young adults were significantly higher every single week in 2021 than they were in 2020 except for weeks 29 and 30. But then in week 31, something drastic happened to cause excess deaths to rise significantly among children and young adults.

And official figures provided by the CDC, unfortunately show that trend has continued in 2022.

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The most recent data released by the CDC covers up to week 40, the week ending October 9th, and it should be noted that the last few weeks of data are subject to change. But as you can see from the above, 2022 has also been a significant year for excess deaths among children and young adults.

Just for comparison, here’s how the figures for 2022 so far compare to the figures up to week 40 in 2020 and 2021.

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More in the article....
 
You literally just pointed out that natural immunity only works against THAT STRAIN only to turn around and suggest that people consider their natural immunity before getting a booster… which protects against MULTIPLE STRAINS.

No, the shots do not protect against "multiple strains." Jesus, that is the entire reason for the goddamn "boosters."

Currently, the CDC has identified one variant of the virus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) as a variant of concern:
  • Omicron. Omicron spreads more easily than the original virus that causes COVID-19 and the delta variant. However, omicron appears to cause less severe disease. People who are fully vaccinated can get breakthrough infections and spread the virus to others. But the COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing severe illness. This variant also reduces the effectiveness of some monoclonal antibody treatments. Omicron has a few major offshoots (sublineages), including BA.5 and BA.2.12.1. BA.5 made up about 88% of COVID-19 infections that had genetic sequencing in the U.S. during a recent week in August 2022, according to the CDC.
In April, the CDC downgraded the delta variant from a variant of concern to a variant being monitored. This means that the delta variant isn’t currently considered a major public health threat in the U.S.


Meanwhile, natural immunity does the SAME THING, but with BETTER RESULTS and for A LONGER TIME.



I’m saying the doctors are right. Tim, who never came close to going to med school, is saying they are wrong.

Yes, of course, 100% of doctors say natural immunity has no value and does not protect people, and that every person in the world - including 19-year old athletes who would not notice if they got the Chinese flu - should get a shot-a-week, no matter the side effects, including dropping dead.

"Dropping dead is worth it if it saves just one life, even if it costs a thousand lives!!"
- Liberal science
 

CDC Lied about Vaccine Myocarditis Being Mild: 20% of Sudden Deaths Caused by Myocarditis​

CDC Policy: avoid autopsies; German Study Explains What They Were Hiding​



When our health officials talk about Covid vaccine victims, we always hear the same story:
  • Deaths are unrelated to vaccination
  • Myocarditis is mild, and nobody dies of it
  • They refuse to autopsy the victims
This gaslighting became an art form for Covid vaccine advocates, with fact-checkers and social networks suppressing any discussion.



We instinctively know not to trust them, but had no scientifically validated studies of people who died suddenly after vaccination - until now. A study of victims of sudden post-vaccine deaths by pathologists at the University of Heidelberg was published in Clinical Research in Cardiology.



The study is very interesting in that university pathologists got hold of 25 bodies of previously healthy people who “suddenly died” within 20 days of Covid vaccination. (NOTE: most deaths happened within one week. They also excluded ten more people found to have legitimate pre-existing illnesses — so they were quite thorough)

Here, we describe the cardiac autopsy findings in five persons who have died unexpectedly within seven days following anti-SARS-CoV-2-vaccination, with vaccine-induced myocardial inflammation representing the likely or possible cause of death. Our findings establish the histological phenotype of lethal vaccination-associated myocarditis. Standardized autopsies were performed on 25 persons who had died unexpectedly and within 20 days (20 days was the study parameter — they died within 7 days — I.C.) after anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination. Cardiac autopsy findings consistent with (epi-)myocarditis were found in five cases of the remaining 25 bodies found unexpectedly dead at home within 20 days following SARS-CoV-2 vaccination.

So, 20% of all “sudden deaths” happening shortly after COVID vaccination are caused by myocarditis.

I would like to ask the following questions:
  • Why doesn’t the CDC perform (or arrange to perform) autopsies?
  • Why do the CDC and fact checkers claim that myocarditis does NOT cause deaths if they do not even autopsy vaccine victims?
  • How can fact-checkers be believed if they do not have any data to back up their fact-checks?
Our authorities claim that “myocarditis does not cause deaths” for only one reason: they refused to autopsy vaccine victims. As soon as autopsies of a representative sample of “sudden deaths” were finally done, as in the above Heidelberg study, it turned out that 20% of sudden deaths were myocarditis-related.

The pathologists explain that this specific course of myocarditis was never observed before Covid vaccines:

During the last 20 years of autopsy service at Heidelberg University Hospital we did not observe comparable myocardial inflammatory infiltration.

What Caused Other 80% of Deaths?

Here’s the list of “causes of death” for most of these subjects. Look at sudden-onset pneumonia, pulmonary embolism, thrombi etc. Lots of good material to work with.





It Was Likely Worse for Younger People​

The above Heidelberg study was done on mostly old people killed by Covid vaccines.

Median age at death was 58 years (range 46–75 years).

The reason for this is that these autopsied deaths occurred in 2022 when 4th vaccine doses were given out. Young people finally wisened up, and most refused Covid vaccines at this point in time, so not as many younger persons died. Unfortunately, this means that younger victims of Covid vaccines, who died in 2021, were not analyzed this time.

Their deaths were ignored, disregarded, and covered up. They died “for science,” were lied to, and never needed these Covid shots. We, the adults, let them down, poisoned them, and then ignored them and gaslit their parents. Most myocarditis victims who died suddenly were never even diagnosed.
 
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