• Please be aware we've switched the forums to their own URL. (again) You'll find the new website address to be www.steelernationforum.com Thanks
  • Please clear your private messages. Your inbox is close to being full.

Evaluating Trubisky - too early edition

Gildong Sack said:
Actually there are receivers open, Mitch just refuses to look their way or throw it when it's in the middle of the field. Here is a sample from the all 22 film.
Click to expand...

That **** just makes me mad.. So how much longer does this go on? I believe Thursday will be make it or break it time. We have a nice stack of aggressive good defenses coming up, they'd better figure it out or they're going to get embarrassed.
 
johngaenzler said:
Than those of every Steeler fan on the planet?? FU Rooneys for allowing this. EVERYONE knows Mitch is not even better than Pickett TODAY and yet we have to endure this garbage for who knows how many more weeks. Canada sucks too but at least put in the QB that we all know (except MT) gives us the best chance to win games and even if we lose, at least we know it’s just gonna speed up this process. The whole “don’t throw him to the wolves” theory is utter BS in this case as the kid has played 5 years of college ball half of which was played in Heinz Field. F U Rooneys!!
Click to expand...
stop skirting the censors
 
Confluence said:
And those same stains, with support of stains fans, thought it was good to paint a giant queerish transgenderblendered imp at midfield.

And paid the greatest guaranteed contract in NFL history to a serial sexual offender/predator to succeed their own #1 overall pick QB who has won more games for the stains than any QB since Bernie ******* Kosar.

The stains are no one's measuring stick.
Click to expand...
Im pretty sure that elf is a molester… it looks creepy… I wouldn’t let it near any dogs or cats… or squirrels for that matter… Chester the molester elf on Brownie field….
 
Watch this footage of Trubisky from 2019. He hasn't improved in the least and if you ask me he's actually worse now than he was in 2019. This is why it's time for Kenny Pickett.

 
chico. Im for giving trubisky a chance. BUt this video talking about his mechanics... I see them now. If you look at the video above yours by steeler4ever.. You can see this same mechanic problem,, in the last clip of him In the other video
 
Was hoping that all Trubisky needed was to be with the right organization to succeed. So far the "right fit" doesn't seem to be with Pittsburgh. Maybe it's nowhere.
Give him one or two more games then bring in Pickett... a scenario already predicted to happen by some of the sports talking heads.
 
The question, though, still is Trubisky even looking downfield because he's been told not to throw there. Tomlin has said they were being conservative 2 weeks in a row. He was a little ticked at Trubisky this week but I still think a big part of the problem is Canaduh. If you want Trubisky to open up the field, then tell him. He can make the throws. He has a big enough arm. And, if he truly won't make the throws or look downfield, then you have to sit him down and put Pickett in. But, we all know Canaduh isn't going anywhere. He is still going to call short passes for the QB's 1st 3 reads and Tomlin isn't putting Pickett in anytime soon.
 
TDX27 said:
The question, though, still is Trubisky even looking downfield because he's been told not to throw there. Tomlin has said they were being conservative 2 weeks in a row. He was a little ticked at Trubisky this week but I still think a big part of the problem is Canaduh. If you want Trubisky to open up the field, then tell him. He can make the throws. He has a big enough arm. And, if he truly won't make the throws or look downfield, then you have to sit him down and put Pickett in. But, we all know Canaduh isn't going anywhere. He is still going to call short passes for the QB's 1st 3 reads and Tomlin isn't putting Pickett in anytime soon.
Click to expand...
I'm not a Canada defender. but the deep routes are there and open...Mitch refuses to fling it. That is not on Canada, though Canada does his part with the stupid play calls at critical moments.
 
BamaSteeler52 said:
See him what? If one tough season ruins Pickett he is not the guy.
Click to expand...
Until we fix our sieve of an offensive line, which got Ben car killed, Mason car killed, and now Mitch car killed, you don't send in a rookie and completely ruin him.
I don't want to see our first rounder looking like a deer in headlights presnap, and then constantly hearing footsteps post snap so that he has happy feet in the pocket and hurries his reads and throws.
Let Mitch and Mason take all the lumps until we address this obvious glaring need so we can keep his psyche and confidence in tact and he can be useful to us for the next decade plus.
 
Gildong Sack said:
I'm not a Canada defender. but the deep routes are there and open...Mitch refuses to fling it. That is not on Canada, though Canada does his part with the stupid play calls at critical moments.
Click to expand...
I know they are there but if his first 3 reads are all short passes and/or he's told not to attempt the deep balls (as Tomlin has alluded to), then he is not the one to blame. I do think part of the problem is with Trubisky. He didn't throw a lot of deep balls in Chicago either. Either way, something needs to change. Canaduh needs to learn how to gameplan and call plays during a game (which in a year and 2 games, he has proven to be completely inept at) and Trubisky needs to kick the training wheels off. He's been in the league long enough.
 
fedderone said:
Until we fix our sieve of an offensive line, which got Ben car killed, Mason car killed, and now Mitch car killed, you don't send in a rookie and completely ruin him.
I don't want to see our first rounder looking like a deer in headlights presnap, and then constantly hearing footsteps post snap so that he has happy feet in the pocket and hurries his reads and throws.
Let Mitch and Mason take all the lumps until we address this obvious glaring need so we can keep his psyche and confidence in tact and he can be useful to us for the next decade plus.
Click to expand...
10000%
 
SCSteeler4life said:
Bills started Josh Allen rookie season , he had growing pains , but he is now the top QB in the league. KP is a older rookie than normal. Give him a chance.
Click to expand...
Apples and Oranges, the situation Josh Allen came into was incredibly better than what Pickett is coming into.
 
Tomlin has pounded into his head. "Don't turn the ball over:. So Trubisky does the safe throw every time. Trubisky is afraid to throw downfield because of Tomlin.
 
Allen absolutely didn't come into a better situation they won 6 games. His skill position players sucked except for McCoy. Look at his team. Decent but no where near the talent we have. I'll give them the edge with better coaching but that is it. The line was awful also , 2 of the guys retired after that season. He was sacked 66x his first 2 years. Not sure what you remembered,

Kelvin Benjamin
Zay Jones
Charles Clay

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DawkDi00.htm
 
Hines field said:
Then why waste the cap on Mitch. We should have rolled with Mason and drafted Pickett. Used the money on another oline / dline
Click to expand...

When Mitch was signed, they thought they had their guy. PICKETT wasn't a thought at the time.

Pickett fell to 1.20 and they took who they think is their next franchise QB. Had Pickett not fallen this wouldn't be a worry.


Salute the nation
 
xjx said:
Tomlin has pounded into his head. "Don't turn the ball over:. So Trubisky does the safe throw every time. Trubisky is afraid to throw downfield because of Tomlin.
Click to expand...
Now maybe it's the pain meds talking. But, "Don't turn the ball over" is EXACTLY what a coach SHOULD be pounding into his team's head. Much better than "Go out there and sling the ball with reckless abandon". If Trubisky feels that he can't follow the mandate if he takes shots downfield, that fear is on Trubisky and not Tomlin.
 
Confluence said:
And those same stains, with support of stains fans, thought it was good to paint a giant queerish transgenderblendered imp at midfield.

And paid the greatest guaranteed contract in NFL history to a serial sexual offender/predator to succeed their own #1 overall pick QB who has won more games for the stains than any QB since Bernie ******* Kosar.

The stains are no one's measuring stick.
Click to expand...


They were BEN's beating stick. He beat the hell outa them with their own stick in their own house or anywhere else they played.


Salute the nation
 
SCSteeler4life said:
Allen absolutely didn't come into a better situation they won 6 games. His skill position players sucked except for McCoy. Look at his team. Decent but no where near the talent we have. I'll give them the edge with better coaching but that is it. The line was awful also , 2 of the guys retired after that season. He was sacked 66x his first 2 years. Not sure what you remembered,

Kelvin Benjamin
Zay Jones
Charles Clay

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DawkDi00.htm
Click to expand...
Did not start as a rookie.
Came in for benched Peterman.
Proceeded to get elbow injury and was out 4 games.
Named starter year two and Bills went to playoffs…….after they replaced all but one O-Lineman during off-season.
Also, he had Brian Daboll as his OC for his entire career until this year, and then had his QB coach take over as new OC.
You know, competent people who know how to teach and support their team’s investment.
 
Gildong Sack said:
I'm not a Canada defender. but the deep routes are there and open...Mitch refuses to fling it. That is not on Canada, though Canada does his part with the stupid play calls at critical moments.
Click to expand...

Several people have posted cutups of plays from the Pats game and this statement is accurate. There are several plays where Diointe and Pickens are both open 15+ yards downfield and on each of those instances, Mitch checked it down short without being pressured. On those 3 plays, he just didn't look downfield and missed 3 chances at big plays.

Reminds me of a conversation with a small college football coach years ago about Tom Brady (before he became the goat). As a somewhat informed fan, I was against recognizing him as the best QB of all time and I harped on his deficiencies: he is slow; he is immobile; he doesn't have Elway's arm; he doesn't have Marino's quick release, yada yada yada). Coach agreed with everything I said and then schooled me with a line that I've never forgotten about Quarterbacks: While we all focus on things like arm strengnth and mobility, "the most important traits needed in a great Quarterback is to know where to throw it, and when to throw it." And on those two criteria, it's hard to argue with Brady's success.

In watching Trubisky through 2 games, I don't see a guy who knows where to throw it or when to throw it. Maybe he improves, maybe not but he is not off to a great start in Pittsburgh.
 
Last edited:
fedderone said:
Until we fix our sieve of an offensive line, which got Ben car killed, Mason car killed, and now Mitch car killed, you don't send in a rookie and completely ruin him.
I don't want to see our first rounder looking like a deer in headlights presnap, and then constantly hearing footsteps post snap so that he has happy feet in the pocket and hurries his reads and throws.
Let Mitch and Mason take all the lumps until we address this obvious glaring need so we can keep his psyche and confidence in tact and he can be useful to us for the next decade plus.
Click to expand...

This argument is becoming so tiresome, the OL has given him pretty good pass protection, he's had time to throw. The OL has absolutely not been an issue in pass pro. The same people claiming it's ridiculous to call for Pickett and claim he's being "over hyped" and won't do any better, are the same ones trying to find any and all reasons that it's NOT Mitch's fault
 
SCSteeler4life said:
Allen absolutely didn't come into a better situation they won 6 games. His skill position players sucked except for McCoy. Look at his team. Decent but no where near the talent we have. I'll give them the edge with better coaching but that is it. The line was awful also , 2 of the guys retired after that season. He was sacked 66x his first 2 years. Not sure what you remembered,

Kelvin Benjamin
Zay Jones
Charles Clay

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DawkDi00.htm
Click to expand...
Allen, once he improved, did what Ben did and made everyone else look better

The skill players looked better because he could threaten the entire field, this in turn made the run game harder to defend as well, his mobility made the OL look better…sound like anyone we know and watched for the last couple decades?

Not saying KP can do that, but definitely starting to see that Mitch can’t…the question is can Mitch not do it because what he’s instructed to do or because of his lack of field vision/speed of reads through his progression and presnap?

The natives are definitely getting restless watching the steaming pile of crap that we’re putting out there tho
 
fedderone said:
Did not start as a rookie.
Came in for benched Peterman.
Proceeded to get elbow injury and was out 4 games.
Named starter year two and Bills went to playoffs…….after they replaced all but one O-Lineman during off-season.
Also, he had Brian Daboll as his OC for his entire career until this year, and then had his QB coach take over as new OC.
You know, competent people who know how to teach and support their team’s investment.
Click to expand...

Exactly why we need to give KP a chance. Allen came in and started halfway through the first game of the year. Our next game will be the our 3rd. He started every game after that until he was injured. So yeah he was the starter year 1 after 1/2 a game. Didn't seem to hurt him did it ? Both teams lines sucked. Our skill position players are better and our defense is better. The only issue is our ****** OC and head coach. But for you to say it some how will ruin KP is just crazy. Give the kid a chance.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top