IF we went receiver with the 1st pick in the draft...

[SteelerFan448]

Why not just take a left tackle then

Because Jones is a left tackle.

 

[SteelerFan448]

Probably not uncommon for a high value RT to be available at 20. I would think that is the pick as long as who they are targeting is there. I was thinking Mims due to his value taking a hit due to injury, lack of playing time. This guy has top 10 talent. If there not sure they will bypass that. Plus we know they have been working on the trenches and like Georgia players.

That wouldn't surprise me in the least if he is the guy if they stand pat.

Which could require a round 2 trade up to secure their C.

Eliminating the players I think will be for sure gone, here's what I'm looking at for 1.20.

WR: Brian Thomas, Adonai Mitchell
RT: JC Latham, Amarius Mims, Tyler Guyton
C: Jackson Powers-Johnson, Graham Barton
CB: Terrion Arnold, Quinyon Mitchell, Nate Wiggins, Cooper DeJean

IMO, our defense should be pretty good this year. No glaring holes outside of slot cornerback, but the addition of Jackson and Queen leaves the starting 11 better than last season. The offense is a bit of a mess right now with a 60% offensive line and a pathetic group of receivers. Unless one of the studs drops, I'm not sure if the value in the first at receiver is significantly better than they could get with the second-round pick.

 

[slashsteel]

Eliminating the players I think will be for sure gone, here's what I'm looking at for 1.20.

WR: Brian Thomas, Adonai Mitchell
RT: JC Latham, Amarius Mims, Tyler Guyton
C: Jackson Powers-Johnson, Graham Barton
CB: Terrion Arnold, Quinyon Mitchell, Nate Wiggins, Cooper DeJean

IMO, our defense should be pretty good this year. No glaring holes outside of slot cornerback, but the addition of Jackson and Queen leaves the starting 11 better than last season. The offense is a bit of a mess right now with a 60% offensive line and a pathetic group of receivers. Unless one of the studs drops, I'm not sure if the value in the first at receiver is significantly better than they could get with the second-round pick.

I hear ya. Thomas is attractive but Mims might be even more so. But a higher risk as well. Guyton could be a safer approach.

Not sure C would bring BPA value with this list. Arguably the teams greatest need followed by WR.

 

[SteelerFan448]

I hear ya. Thomas is attractive but Mims might be even more so. But a higher risk as well. Guyton could be a safer approach.

Not sure C would bring BPA value with this list. Arguably the teams greatest need followed by WR.

We'll see what Khan/Weidl have in mind. If they want to build a power running game and play action game eventually around Justin Fields, Mims will be higher on the list. If it's more of a balanced approach then I could see more of a player such as Guyton.

 

[slashsteel]

We'll see what Khan/Weidl have in mind. If they want to build a power running game and play action game eventually around Justin Fields, Mims will be higher on the list. If it's more of a balanced approach then I could see more of a player such as Guyton.

With what they have showed so far? An aggressive mindset. For me they take the more aggressive prospect but riskier in Mims or trade up for a WR. That is the vibes I get from seeing their new limited sample...

 

[KentuckySteeler]

Just saw artile on another Steeler site that they are interested in Jordan Whittington. Would be an awesome get. I watched alot of Texas games and he's better than Worthy and it was criminal that he didn't get more touches. Would be a homerun if they get him.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

Because Jones is a left tackle.

yes he was..

 

[Greg Lloyd]

Why not just take a left tackle then

We drafted a LT in the 1st round last year. Did you forget that already?

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

no genius. BUt i already have one tackle that can play right.. I may as well double on on Left Tackles , In case one ends up like Okorafor or Moore.
Great Left Tackles are more valuable.
THey would both be first round picks. The cost initially is the same.

 

[Litos]

no genius. BUt i already have one tackle that can play right.. I may as well double on on Left Tackles , In case one ends up like Okorafor or Moore.
Great Left Tackles are more valuable.
THey would both be first round picks. The cost initially is the same.

What LT do you expect to be available at 1.20?

 

[slashsteel]

What LT do you expect to be available at 1.20?

I have to agree here you have a decent amount of RTs. Then some questionable length LTs. I think if they draft a T it is with the intention of moving Broderick over.

 

[Litos]

I have to agree here you have a decent amount of RTs. Then some questionable length LTs. I think if they draft a T it is with the intention of moving Broderick over.

So do we want the 5th LT when we have a higher prospect in house or a top 2 RT or the top C ?

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

What LT do you expect to be available at 1.20?

IDK , but id rather take a LT in rd 1 than a RT. Never said i was TMC, But knowing tomlin i would look for one. Especially if i have a RT who is capable. Butt then i dont know that they will take a tackle at all.

 

[Steelmann]

no genius. BUt i already have one tackle that can play right.. I may as well double on on Left Tackles , In case one ends up like Okorafor or Moore.
Great Left Tackles are more valuable.
THey would both be first round picks. The cost initially is the same.

IDK , but id rather take a LT in rd 1 than a RT. Never said i was TMC, But knowing tomlin i would look for one. Especially if i have a RT who is capable. Butt then i dont know that they will take a tackle at all.

I really don’t get this way of thinking. You say we already have a RT that is capable,meaning Jones. We moved up last year to take arguably the top LT in the draft. Why the hell would we keep him at RT? LT is the most important position on the line. We have our LT his name is Jones. This is supposed a deep draft on the Line. Let’s get a RT who played RT. If it’s deep we might get one in the 2nd or 3rd as well.
Futhermore…what’s the difference in salary between a top LT vs RT? You think Jones doesn’t know it? Put the kid in where he should be.

Kendrick Green played 4 ******* games at Center in his college career. Only because their starter got hurt. 4 ******* games. Zero in high school. Let’s throw the rookie in as center in the NFL game one. What could go wrong?
He should sue Tomlin and Company for incompetence Or fraud for masquerading as a NFL coach.

Let’s keep the guys drafted in their natural positions. At least until the 5th round.

 

[SteelerFan448]

I really don’t get this way of thinking. You say we already have a RT that is capable,meaning Jones. We moved up last year to take arguably the top LT in the draft. Why the hell would we keep him at RT? LT is the most important position on the line. We have our LT his name is Jones. This is supposed a deep draft on the Line. Let’s get a RT who played RT. If it’s deep we might get one in the 2nd or 3rd as well.
Futhermore…what’s the difference in salary between a top LT vs RT? You think Jones doesn’t know it? Put the kid in where he should be.

Kendrick Green played 4 ******* games at Center in his college career. Only because their starter got hurt. 4 ******* games. Zero in high school. Let’s throw the rookie in as center in the NFL game one. What could go wrong?
He should sue Tomlin and Company for incompetence Or fraud for masquerading as a NFL coach.

Let’s keep the guys drafted in their natural positions. At least until the 5th round.

I don't understand it either. It makes it sound as though the positions are interchangeable. It's challenging to switch sides and not everyone is capable of playing at a high level on either side (ex. Dan Moore and Kevin Dotson). We saw something similar with Dupree and Watt playing out of position early in their careers before breaking out when they were moved back to the proper sides. Draft a LT to play LT and give me a RT to play RT.

Now if you're talking about a player with experience at multiple positions and they've exceled, that's fine.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

we moved Broderick Jones to RT last season. We had a noticeable improvement in play over Okorafor.

I guess that didnt happen.

 

[Greg Lloyd]

I have to agree here you have a decent amount of RTs. Then some questionable length LTs. I think if they draft a T it is with the intention of moving Broderick over.

A LT has different traits than a RT and they are usually considered more rare and exceptional. Jones has LT traits, i.e. quick feet, finesse and extra skilled at pass blocking which is why they play on the left, most QBs blind side (assuming they are right-handed as most QBs are). RTs are typically built more for power and - although they need to pass block as well - are more heavily geared to run block. Since finding a top LT is more valuable and more difficult, and Jones is considered a very good LT prospect, then it makes sense to play him at his natural, more-valuable position, and not force-feed the worst starting LT in the NFL (Moore) to start there.

 

[SteelerFan448]

we moved Broderick Jones to RT last season. We had a noticeable improvement in play over Okorafor.

I guess that didnt happen.

I don't get what point you're trying to make by saying that. We would've noticed a big improvement if Jones played LT over Moore as well.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

I don't get what point you're trying to make by saying that. We would've noticed a big improvement if Jones played LT over Moore as well.

i agree. My point is that Jones can already play left and he does well at right.. If i get another LT in the draft at number 1 i can put him in immediately at left. I can leave jones where he is ,,, **** it.. Who cares.. Hes good.

Now my rookie gets hurt , i can swing jones to LT and play some other rub dub at rt. I have 2 Count em 2 great Left tackles...which is perenially a coveted position to have. Now we have a luxury of 2 of them.. Price wise there is no consequence... Im creating depth here.. Thats all. IF you tell me jones cant play RT then ok.. fine. But i seen him do it.

 

[ianv2012]

i agree. My point is that Jones can already play left and he does well at right.. If i get another LT in the draft at number 1 i can put him in immediately at left. I can leave jones where he is ,,, **** it.. Who cares.. Hes good.

Now my rookie gets hurt , i can swing jones to LT and play some other rub dub at rt. I have 2 Count em 2 great Left tackles...which is perenially a coveted position to have. Now we have a luxury of 2 of them.. Price wise there is no consequence... Im creating depth here.. Thats all. IF you tell me jones cant play RT then ok.. fine. But i seen him do it.

I don't understand this thought process when there are plenty of talented RTs in the draft

Taliese Fuaga
JC Latham
Amarius Mims
Tyler Guyton
Blake Fisher
Roger Rosengarten
Christian Jones

Every single one of them has the majority of experience at RT, you literally can take one and move Jones to his comfortable spot and where you intended him at LT and plug one of these guys in at RT, unless you're picking mid to way later, there is no reason to draft a guy who has majority snaps played at LT

 

[SteelerFan448]

I don't understand this thought process when there are plenty of talented RTs in the draft

Taliese Fuaga
JC Latham
Amarius Mims
Tyler Guyton
Blake Fisher
Roger Rosengarten
Christian Jones

Every single one of them has the majority of experience at RT, you literally can take one and move Jones to his comfortable spot and where you intended him at LT and plug one of these guys in at RT, unless you're picking mid to way later, there is no reason to draft a guy who has majority snaps played at LT

The first three are consensus top-25 prospects and it's possible any of them could be available at 20. All good players.

 

[Drink IRON City]

I really don’t get this way of thinking. You say we already have a RT that is capable,meaning Jones. We moved up last year to take arguably the top LT in the draft. Why the hell would we keep him at RT? LT is the most important position on the line. We have our LT his name is Jones. This is supposed a deep draft on the Line. Let’s get a RT who played RT. If it’s deep we might get one in the 2nd or 3rd as well.
Futhermore…what’s the difference in salary between a top LT vs RT? You think Jones doesn’t know it? Put the kid in where he should be.

Kendrick Green played 4 ******* games at Center in his college career. Only because their starter got hurt. 4 ******* games. Zero in high school. Let’s throw the rookie in as center in the NFL game one. What could go wrong?
He should sue Tomlin and Company for incompetence Or fraud for masquerading as a NFL coach.

Let’s keep the guys drafted in their natural positions. At least until the 5th round.

****-in -A

Salute the nation

 

[Drink IRON City]

we moved Broderick Jones to RT last season. We had a noticeable improvement in play over Okorafor.

I guess that didnt happen.

Could have moved MOORE (who beat out Okorafor at RT in training camp), and have had equal or better play.

Then B.Jones at LT and had significantly better than Dan Moore play.

Originally Moore was only moved to LT because he was better there, but don’t loose fact that he beat out Okorafor at the RT position. That combination of the two was the better combination, at the time.

The above shows Tomlin understands combinations, but why the hellA didn’t he move Moore over last year?


Salute the nation

 

[jitter77]

i agree. My point is that Jones can already play left and he does well at right.. If i get another LT in the draft at number 1 i can put him in immediately at left. I can leave jones where he is ,,, **** it.. Who cares.. Hes good.

Now my rookie gets hurt , i can swing jones to LT and play some other rub dub at rt. I have 2 Count em 2 great Left tackles...which is perenially a coveted position to have. Now we have a luxury of 2 of them.. Price wise there is no consequence... Im creating depth here.. Thats all. IF you tell me jones cant play RT then ok.. fine. But i seen him do it.

So you want a superior player to play out of position so we can draft an inferior player to play his position, then switch the superior player only if the inferior player gets hurt? That makes 0 sense when we can just draft an upper tier RT and have 2 guys play their natural positions. There is 0 need to force Jones to play RT at this point

 

[jitter77]

One problem is everyone knows our glaring needs. If we dont get a C in round 1 we almost have to in round 2. If teams below us need a C and they are limited I think we will be leap-frogged. We could also move up, but is it going to be worth giving up another pick