Guy is an unadulterated piece of ****. How's that slappy ?
**** you for telling me what to say about the piece of ****. This is a message board and the dumbfuck
has earned all the **** being hurled his way on merit. So go **** off.
If you got to choose who would you pick to coach the Steelers
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**** you for telling me what to say about the piece of ****. This is a message board and the dumbfuck
has earned all the **** being hurled his way on merit. So go **** off.
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Leftwich or Munchak as HC. Big Ben as OC.
Bill O'Brien. LOL. Where do you come up with some of this stuff?
First of all, he wasn't named the general manager of the Texans until January of 2020...then he promptly went 0-4 to start that season and got fired. A power-hungry piece of **** who destroyed Houston's franchise with a series of idiotic moves once he somehow convinced ownership that he should be the head coach AND the general manager. Same ******* who bailed out on Penn State after only two years, even though they gave him a pay raise following his first season there. Pulling the rug out from under all of those kids and their families who wanted to believe in him leading the program back to respectability for years to come.
This is the offensive genius who thought Brock Osweiler was going to be his savior at quarterback. Same guy who thought it made sense to begin the 2017 season with Tom Savage over Deshaun Watson. Same clown who blew a 24-0 lead to the Chiefs in the playoffs, partly by running a failed fake punt from his own 31 yard line up by 17 in the second quarter.
No thanks.
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I think we need a HC with some fire and X/O coordinators. I think Leftwich is a good OC, but not sure about HC. Not sure if he would bring the heat to some of our young punks (Bush, claypool, the Oline, etc etc). Bieniemy seems to be blacklisted maybe because of his past or maybe there is something else going on there. I would stay away from him. I would look at Josh Boyer from Miami (DC). I am not sure what he is like personality wise, but he has a lot of exp in the NFL. He is only 44 but has 16 yrs NFL exp. There are some pics of him yelling and holding a clipboard so that is already better than where we are at!
"Boyer came to Miami after spending 13 years with New England as a coaching assistant (2006-08), defensive backs coach (2009-11) and cornerbacks coach (2012-18). During his tenure, the Patriots won 12 division titles, six AFC championships and three Super Bowls (XLIX, LI and LIII). The team went 162-46 (.779) in the regular season during Boyer's time in New England, the best record in the NFL during that span.
In Boyer's 10 seasons (2009-18) as a position coach for the Patriots, he helped develop five different Pro Bowl selections and five different All-Pro honorees. In that span, the team had the NFL's third-best scoring defense, allowing 19.4 points per game. Opposing passers had a rating of just 84.8 during those 10 seasons, the 10th-best mark in the league."
"Boyer came to Miami after spending 13 years with New England as a coaching assistant (2006-08), defensive backs coach (2009-11) and cornerbacks coach (2012-18). During his tenure, the Patriots won 12 division titles, six AFC championships and three Super Bowls (XLIX, LI and LIII). The team went 162-46 (.779) in the regular season during Boyer's time in New England, the best record in the NFL during that span.
In Boyer's 10 seasons (2009-18) as a position coach for the Patriots, he helped develop five different Pro Bowl selections and five different All-Pro honorees. In that span, the team had the NFL's third-best scoring defense, allowing 19.4 points per game. Opposing passers had a rating of just 84.8 during those 10 seasons, the 10th-best mark in the league."
people talk of leftwich and Bienemie. (sp)
i cant commit to these guys when Arians and Andy Reid are overseeing their every move. Much like the OC's that came from under Belecheat
i cant commit to these guys when Arians and Andy Reid are overseeing their every move. Much like the OC's that came from under Belecheat
I think what this thread shows is it ain't that easy.
I'm reminded what Lincoln said to his cabinet when there were discussions to replace McClellan. Some one said, "Anybody would be better than McClellan." Lincoln said, "Anybody may do for you, but I must have somebody." And they bumbled around through Burnside, Hooker and Meade before they finally brought Grant east.
I hope whatever they do they can avoid the bumbling around.
I'm reminded what Lincoln said to his cabinet when there were discussions to replace McClellan. Some one said, "Anybody would be better than McClellan." Lincoln said, "Anybody may do for you, but I must have somebody." And they bumbled around through Burnside, Hooker and Meade before they finally brought Grant east.
I hope whatever they do they can avoid the bumbling around.
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I don't understand how Cowher got the job. He went from special teams coach to head coach. It turned out to be a great choice, but i couldn't see him being on anyone's radar. As far as Tomlin he didn't have that great of a pedigree, but I'm sure he gave an outstanding interview and blew the front office away. I can not blame them for hiring Tomlin, but it's way past time to say goodbye.
Just because it is a message board doesn't mean anyone wants to see your constant flaming. It comes across as a kindergarten approach to talking football. Twatwaffle on your own time.
said this a week or so ago. totally agree.
Lol you are a tool. The team is in disarray because of Tomlin and I will beat on the piece of **** all I want. I get tons of likes so it seems ms to be your problem fuckhead. Oh and Tomlin is a ******* piece of **** as a man and as a coach.
can you dial it down a bit? You are acting like he banged your puppy and kicked your sister.
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O’Brien coached 6 full seasons in Houston, only had 1 losing season and made the playoffs with a mostly subpar roster in 4 of 6 years. He made the playoffs with Brian Hoyer and Brock Osweiler at QB. As I said, he did a good job coaching. It was when he meddled in GM that it went south.
As for power hungry don’t forget that Cowher forced out GM Tom Donahoe. Every coach wants say in personnel decisions.
I like that he has HC experience. Pete Carroll got fired. Bill Belichick got fired. I’d rather take a shot on O’Brien than a young first time HC.
A ton of likes are you twelve? When someone calls you out for being a child they are a tool I get it. Bet you get lots of likes on the playground. All the kids think you are something.
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Cowher started as ST coach in Cleveland under Schottenheimer, then DB coach then followed Marty to KC where Cowher was the DC for 3 years. It was also widely known that Marty was mentoring Cowher to be a HC.
Is Andy Reid mentoring Bienemy? Maybe.
When Tomlin was hired, the Steelers had a veteran Super Bowl roster and they had very experienced coaches like Lebeau and Arians and Hoak (I think he was still there). It allowed for Tomlin to have a learning curve. This current Steeler team doesn’t have anything close to that. There are no great assistants. There will be a new QB. A new HC would have to do a rebuild of roster and staff.
That’s why I’d want somebody with HC experience.
I'd take a look at O'Brien as an OC, but the moves he made as GM in Houston with Hopkins and DJ are head scratchers.
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Personally, I wouldn't be afraid to make a play for Jon Gruden. **** Tomlin.
The head coach should have some say in personnel decisions but the GM is THE guy and should have the most pull. Depending on the team, ownership will meddle in player decisions as well. The GM should gather input from the gambit but ultimately should be responsible for making the call.
**** you *****. You keep telling me to quit calling Tomlin a piece of **** because the board is tired of it. **** you I can call out him all I want and you keep chasing me around. Sad little ***** you are.
Aww you wanna be tucked in and read a bedtime story. Real cute. Children now a days. You behave like a good little boy or into the corner with you.
Where you getting this?
He pulled it out of his juvenile ***.
Hes taken over as top tier ******** now Buttplug bob is gone.
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Should the Pittsburgh Steelers Consider Parting Ways With Mike Tomlin After the 2021 Season?
by Jake Elman on December 28, 2021Article Highlights:
When Ben Roethlisberger and Mike Tomlin celebrated with the Lombardi Trophy in February 2009, Pittsburgh Steelers fans understandably hoped the duo would make Super Bowl appearances a regular occurrence.
- The Pittsburgh Steelers need to strongly consider parting ways with veteran head coach Mike Tomlin
- The Steelers are on the verge of missing the postseason for the second time in three years and haven’t won a playoff game since January 2017
- Tomlin, who signed an extension earlier this year, deserves to be on the hot seat
Life hasn’t quite worked out that way. The Steelers haven’t reached the Super Bowl since losing to Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers in February 2011. Over a decade later, Roethlisberger is potentially approaching retirement, and Tomlin, the Steelers’ head coach since 2007, is in danger of recording his first career losing season.
For as successful as the marriage between Tomlin and the Steelers has been over the last 15 years, both sides need to strongly consider a divorce in the coming weeks.
Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers may have finally hit rock bottom
Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers must seriously consider a divorce after the 2021 season | Dylan Buell/Getty Images
In January 2018, the No. 2 seed Steelers prepared to host Blake Bortles and the Jacksonville Jaguars in the AFC Divisional Round. Despite entering the game as 7-point favorites at home, the Steelers wasted 545 yards of offense in a crushing 45-42 defeat.
For all intents and purposes, that shocking home loss marked the beginning of the end of the modern Steelers as we’ve known them. As of Dec. 28, 2021, the Steelers are 36-25-2, with only one playoff berth in the last four years.
After cruising to an 11-0 start in 2020, Pittsburgh lost four of its final five games and, once again, lost at home in the postseason; this time, Baker Mayfield and the upstart Cleveland Browns jumped out to a 35-7 lead in the second quarter and hung on for a 48-37 victory over their AFC North rivals.
At 7-7-1, the Steelers are in danger of their first losing season since 2003. Roethlisberger has looked old, second-year receiver Chase Claypool openly clashed with Tomlin over music choices, and Pittsburgh’s tie against the dismal Lions is the only thing keeping them out of last place.
Tomlin is not responsible for all of these problems, and the fact remains that he is among the NFL’s most successful active head coaches. However, the Steelers’ embarrassing 36-10 road loss to Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs in Week 16 only highlighted how far the six-time Super Bowl champions have fallen in recent years — and why a divorce might be necessary.
The Steelers’ reality matters more than Tomlin’s successful resume in Pittsburgh
As of December 2021, Tomlin is 152-85-2 as the Steelers’ head coach. He reached the playoffs nine times in his first 15 seasons and led the Steelers to seven AFC North titles in that span.
Tomlin’s resume isn’t the problem. The issue is instead where the Steelers are now. They’re a franchise in desperate need of a reboot at quarterback — and, given Claypool and injured receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster’s histories of immaturity and antics, possible widespread offensive personnel changes.
At this point, there is no reason to believe the Steelers will be significantly better in 2021 under Tomlin’s watch. If anything, the franchise must hit the attempt beginning a transitional period in 2022, one where the team can build around All-Pro pass-rusher T.J. Watt and young running back Najee Harris rather than enter a prolonged rebuild.
The Steelers gave Tomlin a three-year extension, one which runs through 2024, earlier this year. However, the franchise did so after a 2020 season which appears to be a significant outlier. Luckily for Tomlin, he at least has job security on his side amid his team’s recent struggles.
For the sake of all parties, a divorce might be the best move. The Steelers officially begin a new era and Tomlin, if he chooses, can try taking a head coaching position with a team with the important pieces in place already. The idea of Tomlin and Kyler Murray teaming up on the Arizona Cardinals certainly sounds tantalizing.
Who should the Steelers pursue if they need to hire a new head coach this cycle?
"Getting takeaways is the most important thing."
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Historically, the Steelers have preferred having defensive masterminds with positions of prominence in the organization. Tomlin, Bill Cowher, and Chuck Noll, the franchise’s three head coaches since 1969, were all defensive coordinators immediately before taking over the Steelers.
It is also worth noting Dick LeBeau, the legendary defensive mastermind, served as the Steelers’ defensive coordinator from 2004-14. Keith Butler, who replaced LeBeau in 2015, turns 66 next May and has never been a head coach.
If the Steelers would prefer to hire another defensive-minded coach, Tampa Bay’s Todd Bowles and Indianapolis’ Matt Eberflus each make sense. Bowles went 26-41 as the New York Jets’ head coach from 2015-18 and has seen his stock skyrocket over the last two years. Eberflus, a former star linebacker at Toledo, interviewed for three head coaching vacancies after the 2020 season.
The Steelers hired Tomlin in January 2007, less than two months shy of his 35th birthday. First-year San Francisco 49ers defensive coordinator Demeco Ryans, a two-time Pro Bowl linebacker with the Houston Texans, is 37 and would be an appealing younger option.
Suppose the Steelers prefer an offensive-minded coach. Buccaneers offensive coordinator and former Steelers quarterback Byron Leftwich is expected to receive widespread interest this cycle. Although he’s never been a head coach before, the 41-year-old spent four seasons with the Steelers and understands the organization and its expectations.
Green Bay Packers offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett and Dallas Cowboys OC Kellen Moore each also make sense for the Steelers. Interestingly, Hackett’s father, Paul, worked alongside Tomlin on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2005; Hackett was the quarterbacks coach, and Tomlin worked with the defensive backs. Steelers fans will likely forgive any potential awkwardness if it means bringing a Lombardi Trophy back to the Steel City.