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Could be part of the "game" to scare Iran. If they think they were THAT close to getting bombed might scare some sense into them. If it was a true leak then that is dangerous on many levels.

Don't buy it. It was a leak and really bad on many levels, as you said. Anyway, my first instinct is in line with what Levin is ranting about right now. What does anybody think that China or Russia would do here? They would make Iran pay. Would the world line up against them, or would the world (a bunch of *******, generally) say that you don't **** with China or Russia like that? We have to respond.
 
I wonder what Trump thought was going to happen when he unilaterally broke and exited the Iran deal, signed on by the UK, China, Russia, France, Germany and the EU?
 
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I wonder what Trump thought was going to happen when he unilaterally broke and exited the Iran deal, signed on by the UK, China, Russia, France, Germany and the EU?

LOL! Trump thinking something through? It’s not about that. It’s about angry, compulsive actions that make him and his supporters feel powerful and righteous.
 
Don't buy it. It was a leak and really bad on many levels, as you said. Anyway, my first instinct is in line with what Levin is ranting about right now. What does anybody think that China or Russia would do here? They would make Iran pay. Would the world line up against them, or would the world (a bunch of *******, generally) say that you don't **** with China or Russia like that? We have to respond.

Ever notice that the for the most part the baddies don't **** with Russia or China?
 
To initiate military action against Iran would be long term plan of action...
This would not be similar to any other military action the US has been involved in for the past few decades..i.e Iraq, Syria, Afgan, etc...

Iranian military is formidable and we would be playing on their home filed so to speak...Yes..I know, we are the most powerful military in the world, but we must be totally prepared for bad news and set backs along the way..

Also---in my humble opinion, the Ruskies are behind the scenes "egging" Iran on with promises of their military support and full partnership...

Before the world lights on fire....lets be sure the country is prepared and fully supports another war.
 
LOL! Trump thinking something through? It’s not about that. It’s about angry, compulsive actions that make him and his supporters feel powerful and righteous.

Yeah, I think the last thing anyone thought we were getting with Trump in the WH was a steady hand on the wheel. I pray & hope our military leaders have the strength and resolve to avoid a catastrophe.
 
Before the world lights on fire....lets be sure the country is prepared and fully supports another war.

You socialist, communist rat *******! You want the Muslims to win and rule the world! You want our country overrun by filthy migrants! You late-term baby murderer! You Marxist, Leninist, Trotsky-reading flaming libtard! This proves you hate America and everything it stands for! Go Trump! MAGA!!

/ board Trumpsters :heh:
 
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To initiate military action against Iran would be long term plan of action...
This would not be similar to any other military action the US has been involved in for the past few decades..i.e Iraq, Syria, Afgan, etc...

Iranian military is formidable and we would be playing on their home filed so to speak...Yes..I know, we are the most powerful military in the world, but we must be totally prepared for bad news and set backs along the way..

Also---in my humble opinion, the Ruskies are behind the scenes "egging" Iran on with promises of their military support and full partnership...

Before the world lights on fire....lets be sure the country is prepared and fully supports another war.

Not at all. We could bomb whatever sites we think were involved and be done with it. Nobody (Iran, Russia, China ) would do **** about it.
 
. I pray & hope our military leaders have the strength and resolve to avoid a catastrophe.

Leave Hungary's military out of this. We at the very least need to bomb the base that shot down our drone. And **** congress and their approval beforehand.
 
The lefties are going nuts trying to figure out how to react to Trump on this. If we don't attack, the narrative will be that Trump is weak and in Putin's pocket. If we do attack, Trump is reckless and dangerous. It's like global warming, no matter what happens it's because of global warming and it's bad.
 
I wonder what Trump thought was going to happen when he unilaterally broke and exited the Iran deal, signed on by the UK, China, Russia, France, Germany and the EU?

you know, **** the Iran deal.
Let's focus on how and why Iran was able to move so fast on their nuclear energy to the point where they can and are able to build nuclear weaponry.

https://www.barrasso.senate.gov/pub...eases?ID=a0a443b0-e626-44b1-b6c7-c4db760a0bbf
“The president's nuclear deal with Iran, that's what the Senate is debating right now - a deal that President Obama negotiated with Iran, and whether that deal should stand or fall.

“This agreement could affect American foreign policy in the Middle East and beyond for this generation, as well as the next.

“It will affect America’s relationship with our allies – and with our enemies.

“Other countries are wondering: Will America accept a flawed agreement that gives Iran almost everything it asked for?

“Or will we, as the United States of America, stand strong against outlaw nations with nuclear ambitions and dreams?

“As senators prepare to vote on this legislation, we should ask: Does this agreement do enough to stop Iran’s nuclear weapons program?

“Does this agreement do enough to protect the security of the American people and our friends around the world?

“I believe the answer is ‘No.’

“It would be irresponsible to support such a weak, such a naïve and such a dangerous deal.

“The original goal of ending Iran’s nuclear weapons program was a good one.

“I wish that the president had stuck with that goal.

“I wish that the president had done a better job of negotiating with the Iranians. He did not.

“During the negotiations, the administration was far too willing to make concessions that put our own national security at risk.

“We were in a very strong position during these negotiations – and the Obama administration squandered that advantage.

“The president badly wanted to strike a deal with Iran.

“And that’s a problem because President Obama has shown once again that if you want a deal bad enough, you will get a bad deal.

“The president fell in love with this deal even though it is deeply flawed.

“And deeply flawed is a description that our Democrat colleagues continue to make about this deal.

“The president cannot see the flaws that our colleagues on the Senate floor can see because, I believe, the president is blinded by deal euphoria. He is in love with the deal.

“The agreement that President Obama has negotiated will legitimize Iran’s nuclear program. It will accept Iran as a nuclear threshold state.

“This is inexcusable.

“This is not the deal the president should have signed.

“This is not the deal the president could have signed.

“It is not the deal that President Obama promised he would sign.

“President Obama once said that Iran didn’t need advanced centrifuges in order to have a limited, peaceful nuclear program.

“Under this agreement his administration did negotiate, Iran will not eliminate a single centrifuge.

“It will continue to research more advanced centrifuges – and it can even start building them.

“How did that happen?

“On the day the agreement was announced, the president of Iran bragged about how he had gotten the Obama administration to surrender on this point. To surrender – that’s the language I’m hearing around the state of Wyoming, and certainly that we’re hearing from Iran – that the president surrendered.

“He said that the United States started by saying Iran would only need 100 centrifuges. Then the number went to 1,000; then 4,000; and then we eventually allowed more than 6,000.

“When it mattered most, the administration wanted a deal so badly that it was willing to concede on point after point after point.

“Again, if you want a deal bad enough, you will get a bad deal. The same thing happened with ballistic missiles.

“General Martin Dempsey – the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the United States military– told the Senate Armed Services Committee, ‘Under no circumstances should we relieve pressure on Iran relative to ballistic missile capabilities and arms trafficking.’

“Defense Secretary Ashton Carter also testified at the same hearing. Now this hearing was only six days before the final deal was announced by the president. He said: ‘We want them to continue to be isolated as a military and limited in terms of the kinds of equipment and materials they are able to get.’

“Six days before the final deal was announced.

“So what happened? What did the president of the United States surrender on? With this agreement, Iran will have access to ballistic missile technology in as little as eight years, even though the secretary of defense said no, even though the chairman of the Joint Chiefs said under no circumstances.

“That’s when Russia and other countries will be able to start selling this deadly technology to Iran, and I believe that Iran will use it.

“This was a last-minute demand that Iran made, and it should have been easy for the president to reject, but he did not – he surrendered.

“Instead, President Obama was so desperate for a deal that he gave in once again.

“It’s always the same story with the Obama administration.

“If you want a deal bad enough, you will get a bad deal.

“When the Obama administration is negotiating with countries that need a deal much more than we do, the president surrenders.

“This administration has no red lines when it comes to negotiating.

“They will give away anything to get a deal.

“There have been too many concessions for anyone to be comfortable with this agreement. There are too many red flags.

“President Obama cannot see the defects that are obvious in the plan.

“He refuses to see what is so clear to the American people.

“After this agreement, Iran will be a nuclear threshold state, and a military and industrial power.

“It will have the money to support terrorists around the world. More money that is has had in the past. It will have the freedom to pursue its nuclear ambitions.

“Even some Democrats who have said they support this deal are doing so with great reservations.

“They say they know it’s not a good deal, but it’s the only option we’ve got.

“That is not a good enough reason to accept all of the risks and all of the concessions that the Obama administration allowed in this agreement.

“The president says, ‘The choice is the Iran nuclear deal or war.’ He has said it time and time again. It’s fear mongering.

“It’s not true, there is an alternative – the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said so.

“General Dempsey was asked about that at a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

“The general said, ‘I can tell you that we have a range of options, and I always present them.’

“It’s not just a choice between this deal or war. It’s a choice between accepting a bad deal or rejecting it.

“If the only choice is to take this deal or leave it, then we must leave it.

“The Obama administration doesn’t want us to have a vote here in the Senate.

“The Obama administration knows it signed a bad deal – and it wants the whole thing to disappear from the front pages before it causes them any more embarrassment.

“So instead of having a full and honest debate on the floor of the Senate, the president and the Senate Democrat leader are trying to hide behind a filibuster.

“That is not how the Senate should handle this important resolution to disapprove the Iran deal.

“Every member of the Senate should be willing to cast a vote – up or down – on this Iran deal.

“We should stand up, represent the people of our state and this nation, and cast our votes.

“The Obama administration has made its arguments – and I believe it has failed to make its case.

“The president has not shown that America will be better off with this deal than we would be without it.

“We have heard the administration’s excuses.

“We have heard all of the ways the final deal fell short of their promises.

“America cannot afford to let Iran have the nuclear program that this agreement will allow it to obtain.

“We should vote to disapprove the Iran deal.

“The president should drop his veto threat.

“He should send his people back to the negotiating table.

“This deal poses too great a threat to America’s national security for us to do anything less.”

10 ways Obama's nuclear deal with Iran fails

1. Enrichment. Before the talks began, the Obama administration and the U.N. Security Council insisted for years that Iran stop all uranium enrichment. Now it allows Iran to continue enriching uranium.

2. Stockpile. In February 2015, Iran had 10,000 kilograms of enriched uranium due to be reduced to 300 kilograms through export to Russia, which would return it as rods for use in peaceful energy. It was an achievement for which Obama had legitimate pride. It reduced the risk the fuel could be diverted to a weapons program. But the risk remains. Iran’s Deputy Foreign Minister Nabas Araqchi has told the Iranian media there is no question of sending the uranium abroad. It is another demonstration of how dealing with Iran is even dicier than with Russia. Ronald Reagan’s motto was “trust but verify.” With Iran, Obama’s is just: don’t trust. Yet he has agreed the fuel may stay inside the country – and there is no mechanism for reducing the stockpile.

3. Centrifuges. We wanted to cut back the number of installed centrifuges by about two-thirds. Iran’s centrifuges have multiplied from the beginning of the negotiations to almost 20,000 today. The U.S. initially called for limiting the number of Iranian enriching centrifuges from 500 to 1,500. The agreement now allows Iran a stunning 6,104 centrifuges. According to Iran’s foreign minister, they are able to use their advanced IR-8 centrifuges as soon as the nuclear deal with the world powers goes into effect, contrary to what the U.S. asserted. This would dramatically accelerate Iran’s potential progress, for the IR-8 centrifuges enrich uranium 20 times faster than the current IR-1 centrifuges.
4. Infrastructure. The closure of nuclear sites at Fordow, Isfahan, Natanz and Arak has been a key goal of the U.S. and its allies for the past decade or so. They at least wanted to limit the productivity of enriched uranium at the Natanz facility.

The 40 megawatt heavy-water nuclear plant at Arak produces plutonium that would be used to make a couple of bombs a year. Wendy Sherman, the undersecretary of state for political affairs, has correctly said that the Iranians do not need a heavy-water reactor at Arak in order to have a peaceful nuclear program. And yet it is to remain, albeit with reduced plutonium, we are assured. It should be shut down and its 100 tons of heavy water exported.

In December 2013, Obama similarly said that Iran had no need for the giant nuclear enrichment facility at Fordow. It is buried in a mountain fortress designed to withstand aerial attack. Now Iran is allowed to keep roughly 1,000 centrifuges there, we are told, to convert Fordow into a center for “peaceful purposes” and forego enriching uranium there for at least 15 years. But there is much unknown about the nature of the “research” and what might be achieved with new types of centrifuges and how soon they produce the material for a bomb after the expiration of the 10 years. The breakout time to a bomb could change significantly in the final years and may well have shrunk to zero as the Israelis assert.

5. Missiles. Iran has been stonewalling about answering outstanding International Atomic Energy Agency concerns about the possible military dimension of its nuclear program. The U.S. negotiators dropped demands that Iran restrict development of intercontinental ballistic missiles that could be used to deliver the warheads.

6. Duration. Initially the U.S. pushed for a framework transaction that would last over 20 years. Now the deal’s key terms sunset in 10 to 15 years. Former Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger and George Shultz contend that the expiration of the framework agreement “will enable Iran to become a significant nuclear, industrial and military power.” That’s in a country with 80 million people and imperial appetite. “Rather than enabling American disengagement from the Middle East, the nuclear framework is more likely to necessitate deepening involvement there – on complex new terms,” the secretaries wrote.

7. Enforcement. President Obama argues: “if Iran cheats, the world will know it” and “if we see something suspicious, we will inspect it.” But, as Michael Makovsky notes in the Weekly Standard, these inspections will not be intrusive enough to detect Iranian cheating or to thwart any breakout attempts in time. Quite the opposite. Iran has a long record of cheating on its international nuclear agreements. It has violated international agreements at least three times in the last year alone. Last November, the IAEA caught Iran operating a new advanced IR-5 centrifuge. Secretary Moniz has said IAEA inspectors must have “anywhere, anytime” access. Ayatollah Ali Khameini and his military say “no way.”

8. Sanctions. The proposed deal gives Iran precisely what it wanted – relief from economic sanctions in exchange for limited restraints on Iranian behavior. This makes the whole project vulnerable to evasion by Iran. They are past masters at that.

Obama talks about being able to “snap back” sanctions. That is just another color in the rainbow. You can get an idea of how easy it will be to restore the pressure by observing the attitude since our sellout on the lake in Lausanne of two of the big powers in the so-called 5+1 talks. China’s press refers to peaceful Iran as if it were Switzerland and Iran says it looks to China to help oil-rich Iran with nuclear power. Russia now says it is ready to sell Iran S-300 air defense missiles that will make much more risky, if not infeasible, any U.S., Israeli or Saudi attempt at aerial demolition of a nuclear threat. If the West does discover a violation, restoring the sanctions in place today will be almost impossible.

We should have waited to give the sanctions more time. These sanctions have already caused significant damage to Iran’s economy and brought the Iranians to the table in the first place. For they know that if the sanctions remain, the radical Iranian regime might not survive.

9. Good behavior. Meanwhile, Iran’s supreme leader, Khamenei is denouncing the United States as the Great Satan, making it clear that Iran does not expect to normalize relations with us anytime soon. His speeches indicate that Iran still sees itself in a holy war with the West.

10. Here is what is at the end of the rainbow. A U.S. seemingly willing to concede nuclear military capacity to the country our Mideast allies consider their principal threat. No wonder Saudi Arabia and others are insisting on at least an equivalent nuclear capability, for otherwise they face an even more dangerous and threatening environment. America’s traditional allies have concluded that the U.S. has traded temporary nuclear cooperation with Iran for acquiescence to Iran’s ultimate hegemony. When the U.N. Security Council approves the final draft, the sanctions against Iran would be lifted. Much of what Iran has already done in violation of its past treaty commitments may well now be legalized, which would free the Iranians of the sanctions imposed due to those violations.

The negative reaction to the inadequate safeguards in Obama’s deal has now forced him to acquiesce to Congress some power of review, reinforced by a 19-0 vote of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Its intervention will be critical, for Obama seems to be willfully ignoring Iran’s belligerent behavior and its growing influence over events in Beirut, Damascus, Baghdad and Sanaa. Freed from sanctions, Iran may become even more aggressive.

Read all that, Tibsy? You should have been MUCH more concerned back when your beloved deity was angling to award Iran the ability to thrive in the nuclear world, and then gave them a lump sum of cash as a going away present (even "if" the money was "theirs").

Oh, but wait...

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/188772/nuclear-dreams-lee-smith

Jordan’s tribes are hardly alone at this moment in their torment and confusion. The United States has alienated its former Sunni tribal allies in Anbar province and throughout Iraq by conducting air strikes on behalf of sectarian Shiite militias loyal to Iran, which murder Sunni tribesmen with seeming impunity whether they are associated with IS or not. Saudi Arabia is aghast at U.S. support for Iran’s role in Yemen, where the Shia Houtha tribesmen backed by Iran now control the country. Israel nearly got into a shooting war last week because of Hezbollah’s ongoing attempt to implant itself on the Syrian side of the Golan Heights, where the Iranian-backed sectarian Lebanese Shia militia operates under cover of U.S. airstrikes and implicit political backing that support the regime of Bashar al-Assad, an Iranian client. While Egypt fights a war against IS and al-Qaida-backed tribes in Sinai, the White House shuns the country’s leader Gen. al-Sisi in favor of meeting in Washington with representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood, who have sworn to overthrow his regime.

That’s a lot of turmoil for America to be stirring up for its erstwhile allies, at a moment where our larger national goal is supposedly a clean exit from the region. So, why is the White House turning the Middle East upside down? Obama is willing to throw away a U.S. framework built by American statesmen, soldiers, businessmen, and educators over the last century because he sees a really big prize out there for the taking—an agreement with Iran over its nuclear weapons program that will be the linchpin of a new Middle Eastern order, in which Iran will play a major stabilizing role.

The Iran deal that Obama has in mind is going to be so awesomely epic and world-changing that it will easily be worth all the chaos the region is now undergoing—from broken alliances and promises, to the high and rising death toll, massive population transfers, the destruction of ancient cities, and the trauma of an entire generation for whom beheadings and human barbeques have become a normal part of life. The United States is on its way out of the Middle East, which is why we need a reliable regional partner like Iran, with the muscle to make its dictates stick. Yes, the dominant partner in that arrangement will obviously be Iran—especially once the Iranians are free of the sanctions that have crippled their oil industry, and can control the oil resources of their client state in Iraq, as well as provide security in the once-and-future Persian Gulf. But Obama would always have the photographs of his triumphant visit to Tehran to remember his role in crafting a new world order from the tribal mayhem of a region in which Americans once fought and died.

But, wait a minute. It seems like it was just yesterday that the government of the United States, its armed forces and clandestine service, had an entirely different set of goals in mind—namely, defending American troops and our allies in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and the Gulf, and Israel from the Islamic Republic of Iran. Indeed, of late the American intelligence community has been reminding us of our recent past through leaks to the Washington Post and Newsweek saying that not all that long ago, in 2008, the agency teamed with the Mossad to kill Hezbollah’s head of operations, Imad Mughniyeh, in Damascus. The point seems to be that, if the U.S. intelligence community now shares intelligence with Hezbollah and leaks the details of Israeli strikes on Hezbollah convoys, we were once proud to collaborate with our Israeli allies to kill Hezbollah terrorists.

Why does the U.S. intelligence community care about this ancient history? Mughniyeh didn’t just plot the 1983 Marine barracks bombing in Beirut, among other spectacular terrorist attacks targeting Americans, he also directed the campaign against U.S.-led coalition troops in Iraq waged by Iranian-backed Shiite militias.

Today, however, Shiite militias like Asaib Ahl al-Haq, Kataib Hezbollah, and Badr Corps get indirect air support from U.S. warplanes. Before the White House launched its campaign against ISIS in Syria, it told Iran it wasn’t going to attack its ally Bashar al-Assad there—even though Obama called for the Syrian dictator to step down in August 2011. By going after ISIS, Jabhat al-Nusra, and other Syrian rebel units, the White House freed up Assad to use his forces elsewhere.

As former George W. Bush White House aide Michael Doran meticulously lays out in his recently published tour-de-force “Obama’s Secret Iran Strategy,” the U.S.-Iran partnership that is reshaping the Middle East has been in the making since Obama first came to office. The most salient point then about the current P5+1 nuclear talks with Iran isn’t the nuclear issue, but the fact that they create a channel to allow both sides to keep talking—which means that all sorts of subjects are going to come up, from Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon to Yemen and maybe even other thorny issues, like Argentina and the Nisman investigation into Iran’s alleged role in the bombing of the Israeli embassy in 1992 and Jewish Community Center in 1994. U.S. response to everything in the region is now tied to the fate of the Iranian nuclear program, which in turn is simply the linchpin of Obama’s larger vision of a partnership between Washington and Tehran.

Obama may dream of a U.S.-Iran partnership and going skiing in the mountains above Tehran. But what does Obama’s grand vision look like these days from the Iranian side? From Iran’s perspective, then, it controls not only four Arab capitals, but it also holds Washington captive. If Obama pushes back, the Iranians walk away from the table, confounding the U.S. president’s dreams of achieving a historic reconciliation—and maybe worse, leaving him vulnerable to Republican majorities in the House and Senate ready to pounce on an epochal diplomatic failure.

But why does Obama’s vision have to fail? First of all, it’s not clear how Iran can accept any permanent agreement with the White House about the nuclear program, or anything else, for that matter. From Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps’ perspective, a deal might empower President Hassan Rouhani at their expense. From Rouhani’s perspective, a deal might make him, a so-called moderate, superfluous as someone who’s already played his role. Most important, there is the point of view of Khamenei, which partakes of the historic rationale of the Islamic Republic. Its founder Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini promised one thing—not to raise the standard of living or educate women, nor even to hasten the return of the Mahdi, but rather that the life of a genuine Muslim rested on the pillar of resistance against the godless, the arrogant West, especially America. Signing an accord with the Great Satan would undermine the fundamental legitimacy of the regime.

Obama wants a deal with Iran so much in large part because he doesn’t think the United States should be the world’s policeman—and he’s right. Our oil and natural gas industry won’t make us energy independent but it makes us less dependent and we simply don’t need that high a profile in a part of the world that has seldom returned our love. So, why keep shedding blood and spending money—as well as domestic political capital—in the Middle East?

The answer is not that we need to look out for the world’s interests, but that we need to continue protecting our own. A nuclear weapon in the hands of an expansionist regime doesn’t get the United States out of the Middle East. It puts Iran on our doorstep, by turning the clerical regime into an aggressive global nuclear-armed power. There can’t be much question by now about what Iran has in mind for the Middle East, or for other countries that it enlists in its schemes, like Argentina. What Iran wants makes the world a more dangerous place for Americans. The question is not whether there’s a deal to be had with Iran, but if it’s too late to crash the comprehensive agreement the White House has already struck with our new regional partner—whose sickening consequences are plain to see.

But you say Trump is going to cause a war with a goddamned tweet? excuse me, but this **** has been going on for 8+ years, thanks to the man whom you've grown to love. Even brave Sir Edmund Hillary called Bomma on this ******* nuclear deal.

https://nypost.com/2016/10/01/the-stunning-tale-of-naive-weakness-that-led-to-the-iran-deal/

It was Hillary Clinton who nailed Barack Obama’s policy with a single, deadly word: “Naive,” she called it, in a campaign debate in 2008.

And how. The full story of President Obama’s 2015 Iran deal, which gave Iran more than it could have wished for in its wildest dreams just as its economy was on the verge of collapse, is a stunning tale of weakness, self-deception, wishful thinking and topsy-turvy priorities on the part of Team Obama.

Even the French Socialists called the agreement, which lifts sanctions against Iran in return for that country vowing to back off its nuclear weapons program for 10 years, “a sucker’s deal” (before being browbeaten into approving it). And a former International Atomic Energy Agency weapons inspector said Obama’s pact “sets an incredibly bad precedent.”

But a Trump tweet is going to start a war.

******* idiocy.
 
Indeed the GOP warmongers and brainiacs at FoxNews are salivating over this. I hope they know what they're wishing for.


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Tibs, luckily Trump is showing a very level head and keeping things in perspective as opposed to some media pundits calling for all out war. Showing some strong diplomatic restraint isn't he?
 
You socialist, communist rat *******! You want the Muslims to win and rule the world! You want our country overrun by filthy migrants! You late-term baby murderer! You Marxist, Leninist, Trotsky-reading flaming libtard! This proves you hate America and everything it stands for! Go Trump! MAGA!!

/ board Trumpsters :heh:

LMAO...

Its that obvious Tibs?!?
 
Indeed the GOP warmongers and brainiacs at FoxNews are salivating over this. I hope they know what they're wishing for.


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and you still refuse to see how all this transpired. oh, so quickly.
 
I don't understand why he is tweeting that he called it off to save the 150 lives.

If I were Iranian in charge I would have many people near all my valued sites.
 
I don't understand why he is tweeting that he called it off to save the 150 lives.

If I were Iranian in charge I would have many people near all my valued sites.

that's the idea. why not dress up some of your military in skirts and dresses, put them around the military bases and let them be photographed by our satellites?
then we can just obliterate their military and bases and nuclear facilities a lot easier.
 
Putin said something eye-opening recently. The next war he says will be fought with 1's and 0's. He's referring to a cyber attack that can shut down entire power grids. With no electric power for a year, it is estimated that well over 50% of the population would die. A business would have a tough time well, a reason why the USA is in the Russian power grids as if to say don't you dare.


If Iran sinks an oil tanker it would be an ecological disaster, and the UA would likey take out some of their nuclear sites. Trump is not a welcome fool as Obama was, but he has to deal with Putin.

Enlightening, but old news. We all 'knew' this was coming 30 years ago. Heck, War Games, the movie, showed the 1's and 0's capability way back then...

I'm not a Trump supporter, but he's an action guy. That's what the country wanted and I, as an American, support the decision---even though I know the outcome (see Revelations in your Bible). It doesn't matter what the US president does, whoever he/she maybe, the End of Times was predicted from the very beginning.
 
I don't understand why he is tweeting that he called it off to save the 150 lives.

Not sure what people were expecting when they elected a reality show star to run the country's foreign policy.
 
We're not going to war over a ******* drone, even though the Dems are begging for a war to have something besides Joe Bidens racist comments to be the top news of the day

Trump is taking a measured approach, a wise decision
 
Trump is taking a measured approach, a wise decision

Textbook Trump:

1) Generate crisis
2) Heighten conflict
3) Back off at last minute
4) Take credit on Twitter
5) Repeat
 
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