New Rooney Rule Each Team MUST Hire

[Hypocycloids]

I haven't read the "more deserving" part in any of the press releases. Regardless, I just think this accomplishes nothing more than PR for the league. Seriously, you're telling teams they have to do something that they are all in compliance with anyway. smh

Not according to the Great Leader of Diversity.

“We recognize we have seen progress on some fronts,” said Rooney, chairman of the league’s Diversity, Equity & Inclusion Committee, “but we still have a way to go on other fronts.”

HAHA...Sure thing Art "we have a long way to go". I believe Jim Thorpe to be the only Native American to have played the game.

NFL adds requirements to Rooney Rule to aid minority hiring

To ensure more opportunities for diverse candidates, the NFL has added requirements on the hiring of offensive assistant coaches, and women in general.

www.cnbc.com

Your "nothing to see here" approach doesn't work so well here.

 

[SteelBuckeye]

Not according to the Great Leader of Diversity.

“We recognize we have seen progress on some fronts,” said Rooney, chairman of the league’s Diversity, Equity & Inclusion Committee, “but we still have a way to go on other fronts.”

HAHA...Sure thing Art "we have a long way to go". I believe Jim Thorpe to be the only Native American to have played the game.

NFL adds requirements to Rooney Rule to aid minority hiring

To ensure more opportunities for diverse candidates, the NFL has added requirements on the hiring of offensive assistant coaches, and women in general.

www.cnbc.com

Your "nothing to see here" approach doesn't work so well here.

9:01 AM is too early to drink alcohol on a weekday. Unless you're on vacation or work the night shift.

 

[Coach]

OK, I get it. You're an idiot.

And you're a bigot. Whart's wrong with the rule covering everybody, like Asians, Jews, Arabs, women, gay / lesbian etc..?

 

[SteelBuckeye]

And you're a bigot. Whart's wrong with the rule covering everybody, like Asians, Jews, Arabs, women, gay / lesbian etc..?

Look, idiot. Read the damn article and the posts. The rule covers ALL ethnic/racial minorities. That would include Asians, Arabs, etc. It also specifically covers Women.
LGBQT+ were not identified. But, this being the NFL, as soon as more folks raise a ruckus, they will be.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

I think the Rooney rule should apply immediately to the commissioner position. They do have the perfect candidate Condoleeza Rice. But for reasons I will not go into on the football forum, she doesn’t count as a minority.

 

[black and gold apex]

well heck why we are at it lets take a good look at he equality on the field that seems to be a no touch topic. Maybe season ticket holders as well . Next gender on the field. The game is going down when all the hype is on everything but the game and product on the field. It has become a nothing but me league, Are you not surprised that players cut are not Sueing for lack of chance to lay. The extreme is the norm in sports today

 

[ZonaBurgh]

I believe everyone should be given an equal shake, an opportunity, if you will. However, forced diversity, solely for the sake of diversity, is divisive, period.
Understanding that minorities, in this case women, traditionally have not been given the chance to compete for jobs in the NFL, this rule makes sense.
But it should give them just an opportunity to compete for a job and not a guarantee of a job, and I state this because the new rule says must hire.

The problem is that if an employer chooses the best candidate for a job in their opinion, and that candidate does not fit the social check box of X,Y and Z, the owner faces the backlash of those that think emotionally rather than rationally, a small, but very loud segment of our population.

I have a niece, now a pediatrician, who was an exceptional student both in high school and as an undergraduate. When applying to the medical school of her choice, she was
turned down, not because of academics but because she didn't check the correct social boxes.

Until we as a society, judge one another based on qualifications and character alone, as opposed to compartmentalizing everyone into dozens of subcategories, nothing will improve, not the product produced, nor our country as a whole.

Meh, just my opinion, and I'm not likely to change it.

 

[Stryker]

Not according to the Great Leader of Diversity.

“We recognize we have seen progress on some fronts,” said Rooney, chairman of the league’s Diversity, Equity & Inclusion Committee, “but we still have a way to go on other fronts.”

HAHA...Sure thing Art "we have a long way to go". I believe Jim Thorpe to be the only Native American to have played the game.

NFL adds requirements to Rooney Rule to aid minority hiring

To ensure more opportunities for diverse candidates, the NFL has added requirements on the hiring of offensive assistant coaches, and women in general.

www.cnbc.com

Your "nothing to see here" approach doesn't work so well here.

Not true, a lot of NAs played the game. Sadly a lot of them had to identify as white to get hired and play in the first place. None of them played for the Redskins, as they were the last team to break the color barrier in the mid to late 60s...

 

[FatsHolmes]

I believe everyone should be given an equal shake, an opportunity, if you will. However, forced diversity, solely for the sake of diversity, is divisive, period.
Understanding that minorities, in this case women, traditionally have not been given the chance to compete for jobs in the NFL, this rule makes sense.
But it should give them just an opportunity to compete for a job and not a guarantee of a job, and I state this because the new rule says must hire.

The problem is that if an employer chooses the best candidate for a job in their opinion, and that candidate does not fit the social check box of X,Y and Z, the owner faces the backlash of those that think emotionally rather than rationally, a small, but very loud segment of our population.

I have a niece, now a pediatrician, who was an exceptional student both in high school and as an undergraduate. When applying to the medical school of her choice, she was
turned down, not because of academics but because she didn't check the correct social boxes.

Until we as a society, judge one another based on qualifications and character alone, as opposed to compartmentalizing everyone into dozens of subcategories, nothing will improve, not the product produced, nor our country as a whole.

Meh, just my opinion, and I'm not likely to change it.

There is no requirement to hire a woman. There is a requirement to hire someone in a minority status - which includes women.

Funny how with the supposed backlash, we just had only our second current black head coach.

I fully agree that jobs should go to the most qualified. The problem is, many of the minorities haven't been given a fair shake to date. There is also the concept that some people do not have the opportunity to have the best qualifications, although that is a bit more nebulous. Since the requirement is only to have someone on the offensive staff that works directly with the head coach, it somewhat addresses this in that it allows for the minority coach to gain some of the experience that is necessary for a head coach.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Not true, a lot of NAs played the game. Sadly a lot of them had to identify as white to get hired and play in the first place. None of them played for the Redskins, as they were the last team to break the color barrier in the mid to late 60s...

So you're saying that was over a half a century ago.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

There is no requirement to hire a woman. There is a requirement to hire someone in a minority status - which includes women.

Funny how with the supposed backlash, we just had only our second current black head coach.

I fully agree that jobs should go to the most qualified. The problem is, many of the minorities haven't been given a fair shake to date. There is also the concept that some people do not have the opportunity to have the best qualifications, although that is a bit more nebulous. Since the requirement is only to have someone on the offensive staff that works directly with the head coach, it somewhat addresses this in that it allows for the minority coach to gain some of the experience that is necessary for a head coach.

Respectfully, how can you state that many minorities haven't been given a fair shake in 2022?

 

[FatsHolmes]

Respectfully, how can you state that many minorities haven't been given a fair shake in 2022?

NFL - 80% minority players. Head coaching ranks 6.25%. It was 3.125 until yesterday.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

NFL - 80% minority players. Head coaching ranks 6.25%. It was 3.125 until yesterday.

So are you saying that the NFL should hire more black coaches and more white players?

 

[ZonaBurgh]

NFL - 80% minority players. Head coaching ranks 6.25%. It was 3.125 until yesterday.

Since the turn of the 21st century, there have been approximately 130 open head coaching jobs in the NFL. Approximately 25 of those positions were filled with black applicants, including Mike Tomlin. What happened to those other 24 head coaches, or for that matter why was there 130 or so job openings? The answer is pretty simple, the job of a head coach is to win football games, those that don't, tend to have a short tenure in the league, no matter their skin tone. Are you suggesting that because 80% of the players are black that 80% of the non-players in the NFL should also be black? I have no issue with who an NFL team may hire, or who they choose to field their team with. I do however believe quotas for the sake of a quota is wrong, it's divisive, plain and simple. Should everyone have the opportunity to interview for a job? You bet. Everyone should get an equal opportunity to succeed or fail, based on their merit.

 

[SojournerSteel]

There are a few here saying, "so what, what's the big deal", or "who cares?". They'll care when they lose that job themselves because the company had to meet a quota. smh.

Remember when Rachel Nichols was complaining bitterly that ESPN sacked her and gave the NBA Countdown to Maria Taylor? She was like, "I'm down with it, but don't take my thing...I worked hard to get where I am."

Incidentally, Maria Taylor may have checked more than one box I'm guessing.

These people always complain the loudest when their ox is finally gored.

 

[JMM]

I think we should hire Amanda Wurlitzer

 

[JMM]

9:01 AM is too early to drink alcohol on a weekday. Unless you're on vacation or work the night shift.

I disagree. I think it's ambitious to get an early start. The early bird always gets the tequila worm.

 

[madinsomniac]

This is just the NFL still trying to avoid a true developmental league… it’s beyond time… they have a glut of money they just don’t want to share…. Colleges as developmental sites broke down at the end of the 90’s… coaches don’t want to teach in the pros… you get a lot of guys who take longer to really get it playing early as one trick ponies and coaching has never been worse overall


Set up a minor league… train whomever you want down there… i don’t think the model they have now has been working for anything they are trying to do

 

[suncitysteel]

The Steelers have Ryan Shazier so they're good with the quota.

Then there's Josh Dobbs. who's bounced around and is currently an UFA. Seems like he could've gone into his degree field (Aerospace Engineering) already (he's never been a starter in this league), but maybe he loves football too much, which could possibly lead to coaching.

 

[Drink IRON City]

This is just the NFL still trying to avoid a true developmental league… it’s beyond time… they have a glut of money they just don’t want to share…. Colleges as developmental sites broke down at the end of the 90’s… coaches don’t want to teach in the pros… you get a lot of guys who take longer to really get it playing early as one trick ponies and coaching has never been worse overall


Set up a minor league… train whomever you want down there… i don’t think the model they have now has been working for anything they are trying to do

They haven't had to because their "cash$$$cow" college has been doing it for them. With College players being able to get paid that will cause less players to fullfill their NFL aspirations due to them getting the money sooner.

The NFL didn't want NFL Europe to be their minor league, they had hopes it would transform into a league all it's own.

You're right madinsoniac, they do need a inor league for developement of players and coaching staff.




Salute the nation

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

USFL is starting in a few weeks and I believe the XFL is coming back too. The NFL absolutely needs a developmental league because after the concussion hysteria, the fundamentals of blocking and tackling are barely practiced. That’s why most teams can’t run the ball now,

Colleges limit hitting now too. You need a league of low paid professionals where they can actually learn the game. It used to be that the developmental leeague, particularly NFL Europe was focused on developing the QB. Now it’s the OL and TEs and defensive players that needs the extra development in a league where hitting is actually permitted.

You can’t hit in pee wee or highs school because moms (and weak dads) don’t like it. You can’t hit in college because ESPN has each player thinking they are their own corporate brand and should opt out of any difficult situation. You can’t hit in the NFL because they damn near negotiated practice out of the game. They’re all protected.


Hey what about these low paid guys nobody ever heard of in this minor league? **** ‘em. Let them knock each other senseless.

 

[Gildong Sack]

66% of the population is white, therefore 66% of NFL players must be white. 12% of the population is black, therefore 12% of NFL players must be black. 13% of the population is Hispanic therefore 13% of NFL players must be Hispanic. How far do we want to go with this?

100% percent of the players and coaches used to be white...even though the population just like today, wasn't. Then someone in the league went and ruined everything for "people like you" by bringing in the first African-American player into the NFL, Fritz Pollard in 1920. Pollard dominated and the Akron Pros whom he played for went undefeated (largely thanks to Pollard) to win a championship that year. Shortly after this the NFL owners colluded to keep African-American players out through a "gentleman's agreement" there would not be another African-American player until 1946........

Pollard had such a high football IQ he became a head coach in 1921. Think about that:

In 1921 1 NFL coach was African-American...that would be Fritz Pollard
In 2022 1 NFL coach is African-American(101 years later!)...that would be Mike Tomlin

How far do we want to go with this?

 

[FatsHolmes]

100% percent of the players and coaches used to be white...even though the population just like today, wasn't. Then someone in the league went and ruined everything for "people like you" by bringing in the first African-American player into the NFL, Fritz Pollard in 1920. Pollard dominated and the Akron Pros whom he played for went undefeated (largely thanks to Pollard) to win a championship that year. Shortly after this the NFL owners colluded to keep African-American players out through a "gentleman's agreement" there would not be another African-American player until 1946........

Pollard had such a high football IQ he became a head coach in 1921. Think about that:

In 1921 1 NFL coach was African-American...that would be Fritz Pollard
In 2022 1 NFL coach is African-American(101 years later!)...that would be Mike Tomlin

How far do we want to go with this?

We're up to 2 now. But point taken.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Dolphins coach MIke McDaniels is black.

 

[SojournerSteel]

I think the Rooney rule should apply immediately to the commissioner position. They do have the perfect candidate Condoleeza Rice. But for reasons I will not go into on the football forum, she doesn’t count as a minority.

We don’t know what she is because the left cannot define what a woman is either.