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Coach said:
No, can you break down down his flags for me? I seldom watch OSU football. More of an SEC fan. Thanks.

RB Harris sucks as a feature back, he can not run outside well, and does to hit big plays either running or pass catching. I guess you happy with his 3.8 yard per rush and his 5.6 yards per catch. I am not. His lack of big plays 15+ is a reason why we struggle to score. You need 15+ plays to score enough points. Wake up.

If you watch Robinson play and understand the modern game of football it features Running back who can run outside, and win passing match up's, you know things Harris is poor at you would like Robinson a lot. But you don't understand this obviously. Robinson has very good speed, vision, acceleration, agility ,and power too. No worries I suspect he will be off the board when we select. He's is that good. The best back to come out in a while I think. If it makes you understand better Robinson is a triple that RB as he can run inside out outside well and is dangerous in the pass catching dependent. You need to game plan for him. Najee Harris as a feature back is easy to prepare for. He seldom runs outside for a reason and can be confined as pass cacher. Defense can ignore him running outside or being a threat and jam the inside. He is not a big play threat at all, and can be prepared for very easily as an inside the tackles type of runner which does not stretch the field horizontally or vertically. You want that?

Deepening on who is on the board I would take Robinson in the first round, and take a tackle with our first pick ( pick #32 ) in the second round.
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It is your comment do your own research.
 
slashsteel said:
It is your comment do your own research.
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So in other words you don't know what I am asking for on D Jones flags. Read my reply as to why Robinson would be a good addition to the team.



>>>RB Harris sucks as a feature back, he can not run outside well, and does to hit big plays either running or pass catching. I guess you happy with his 3.8 yard per rush and his 5.6 yards per catch. I am not. His lack of big plays 15+ is a reason why we struggle to score. You need 15+ plays to score enough points. Wake up.

If you watch Robinson play and understand the modern game of football it features Running back who can run outside, and win passing match up's, you know things Harris is poor at you would like Robinson a lot. But you don't understand this obviously. Robinson has very good speed, vision, acceleration, agility ,and power too. No worries I suspect he will be off the board when we select. He's is that good. The best back to come out in a while I think. If it makes you understand better Robinson is a triple that RB as he can run inside out outside well and is dangerous in the pass catching dependent. You need to game plan for him. Najee Harris as a feature back is easy to prepare for. He seldom runs outside for a reason and can be confined as pass cacher. Defense can ignore him running outside or being a threat and jam the inside. He is not a big play threat at all, and can be prepared for very easily as an inside the tackles type of runner which does not stretch the field horizontally or vertically. You want that?

Deepening on who is on the board I would take Robinson in the first round, and take a tackle with our first pick ( pick #32 ) in the second round.
 
Coach said:
So in other words you don't know what I am asking for on D Jones flags. Read my reply as to why Robinson would be a good addition to the team.



>>>RB Harris sucks as a feature back, he can not run outside well, and does to hit big plays either running or pass catching. I guess you happy with his 3.8 yard per rush and his 5.6 yards per catch. I am not. His lack of big plays 15+ is a reason why we struggle to score. You need 15+ plays to score enough points. Wake up.

If you watch Robinson play and understand the modern game of football it features Running back who can run outside, and win passing match up's, you know things Harris is poor at you would like Robinson a lot. But you don't understand this obviously. Robinson has very good speed, vision, acceleration, agility ,and power too. No worries I suspect he will be off the board when we select. He's is that good. The best back to come out in a while I think. If it makes you understand better Robinson is a triple that RB as he can run inside out outside well and is dangerous in the pass catching dependent. You need to game plan for him. Najee Harris as a feature back is easy to prepare for. He seldom runs outside for a reason and can be confined as pass cacher. Defense can ignore him running outside or being a threat and jam the inside. He is not a big play threat at all, and can be prepared for very easily as an inside the tackles type of runner which does not stretch the field horizontally or vertically. You want that?

Deepening on who is on the board I would take Robinson in the first round, and take a tackle with our first pick ( pick #32 ) in the second round.
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I have heard your opinion on the matter. Doesn't make it a high need (it isn't as they have a 1 and 2 on the roster, even if you don't recognize it as such).

The idea of wasting a first round pick on a RB, when this team has a plethora of more important needs is ludicrous.

T,WR,T, CB times 2, depth at OLBer, and depth at DE are bigger needs. A RB would be more of a luxury pick.
 
Coach said:
So in other words you don't know what I am asking for on D Jones flags. Read my reply as to why Robinson would be a good addition to the team.



>>>RB Harris sucks as a feature back, he can not run outside well, and does to hit big plays either running or pass catching. I guess you happy with his 3.8 yard per rush and his 5.6 yards per catch. I am not. His lack of big plays 15+ is a reason why we struggle to score. You need 15+ plays to score enough points. Wake up.

If you watch Robinson play and understand the modern game of football it features Running back who can run outside, and win passing match up's, you know things Harris is poor at you would like Robinson a lot. But you don't understand this obviously. Robinson has very good speed, vision, acceleration, agility ,and power too. No worries I suspect he will be off the board when we select. He's is that good. The best back to come out in a while I think. If it makes you understand better Robinson is a triple that RB as he can run inside out outside well and is dangerous in the pass catching dependent. You need to game plan for him. Najee Harris as a feature back is easy to prepare for. He seldom runs outside for a reason and can be confined as pass cacher. Defense can ignore him running outside or being a threat and jam the inside. He is not a big play threat at all, and can be prepared for very easily as an inside the tackles type of runner which does not stretch the field horizontally or vertically. You want that?

Deepening on who is on the board I would take Robinson in the first round, and take a tackle with our first pick ( pick #32 ) in the second round.
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Beefing up the O line doesn't fix that issue?
 
  • 17.
    Devon Witherspoon
    CB Illinois

  • 32.
    Dawand Jones
    OT Ohio State

  • 49.
    Calijah Kancey
    DT Pittsburgh

  • 80.
    Ivan Pace Jr.
    LB Cincinnati

  • 120.
    Ricky Stromberg
    OC Arkansas

  • 234.
    Nick Herbig
    EDGE Wisconsin


  • 241.
    Michael Jefferson
    WR Louisiana
    This is what I think they will do. 1st Best Corner left. 2a. Best OT left 2b best DL left. 3 Best LB
 
Coach said:
That's a tiny bit high for Dawned Jones who I like a lot as player. He is a big bully type in the run that I would like to have! He allowed 4 QB hurries, no QB hits, and not a single sack while playing at right tackle for 11 games last year. Statistically this is a check plus in pass protection! But he has a lot of flags. Why? Asking the OSU fans why. Was he beaten and had to hold in pass protection of just too handsy as a run blocker? There is a difference. What type of flags did he have? False starts or holding.

Depending on who is left on the board I am okay with this pick in round one. If B. Jones is on the board I'd take him over D. Jones simply because he is a left tackle and and D Jones is a right tackle only. I also think that B. Robinson is a top 12 talent at RB and one who can transform our offense which is currently hurting in outside running ability big plays ( 15 yard or more as a runner or receiver ) but that is another story as Harris can not deliver the these type of plays enough.
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You could click the link to see who was on the board.

Darnell Wright (not at pro day), John Michael Schmitz (a bit high for him), Myles Murphy (Tomlin at pro day), Deonte Banks (not at pro day), Jordan Addison (not at pro day), Brian Branch (Tomlin at pro day), Bryan Bresee (Tomlin at pro day). As I mentioned, I focused on drafting a player only if Tomlin was at the pro day because that is currently the book on the Steelers until they show otherwise. Very limited draft board in this mock.
 
So at OT here would be my targets in order:

Guys id target at 17:
1. Broderick Jones. This guy is just a mauler who is exactly what they want at LT. Solid in pass blocking but a force at runblocking if he pans out
2. Paris Johnson. I still am nervous over his handwork based off of a zillion scouting reports, but he has the physical traits to be great. I see him as boom or bust and i am not that big a fan of such a risk at 17

Guys Id target at 32
1. Peter Skoronski (He will be gone by this point)
Hey if he falls he is worth a shot at Tackle… at worse he becomes a great guard and we trade someone.. short arms aren’t always a death sentence at Tackle and his technique is said to be exquisite…
2. Antwon Harrison- this guy is probably best suited in a pass first offense I think, but he is definitely going to be a LT in the NFL… i don’t think they will take him because I think they are prioritizing run blocks over pass blocking to some extent
3. Dawand Jones. This guy has grown on me, but i just think he is destined to be a great RT rather than a LT… I think the Steelers are pretty high on this guy too… he is probably the favorite if they take a T at 32

At 49:

1. Cody Mauch. This guy would have been a great third round or maybe 4th round pick if he didn’t steal all the thunder at the combine… he is similar to skoronski in that he might end up at guard, but he is a converted TE with a lot of growth and potential, even at OT…
2 Darnell Wright. Yeah this guy will be long gone here… he probably will go in the first… he is another sleeper that just kept climbing the rankings, but I think he is a tad overrated now… if he falls here its probably the upper limit of what his value is
3. Ill put Matthew Burgeron on here but I won’t like it… id rather wait until the third or fourth and get a boom or bust type than go pure Vanilla like this guy…… hey, maybe I will be totally wrong, but he is an ok athlete with ok length who isnt a second level blocker in the run game and probably has a little developing to do as a pass blocker too… hell if he is the only guy left , trade down and see if he drops further lol…

At 80.
1. Blake Freeland… another late climber… super athletic but probably not a rookie starter type
2. Jaylen Duncan… this guy has athleticism and ok length, but he seems like he is going to have to iron out some technical issues on the bench for a year or so…

Later rounds
1. Carter Warren… look the guy got a raw deal… he came back for another year when he was going to be a solid mid round pick and then got hurt and lost in the shuffle with all these OTs… as several sites pointed out he has the frame and athleticism and more experience than most of these guys… he would be a great swing tackle and eventually could be a starter at RT… completely worth a fifth or sixth if we could get one
2. Mason Brooks.. he isn’t going to be a LT, but he fits us for RT a ton… probably the best guy to get the handwork technique we use down pat quickly
3.McClendon Curtis ( as maybe a seventh) he also would be a RT… he might be available as a udfa… he is going to be a super sleeper because he has plenty of athleticism but not in those areas that put up flashy numbers in the combine… good technique, smart, really nasty in the run game… great passblocking grades too… stayed home to play at chattanooga… so he won’t be on any radars…


Now there are a like ten more draftable guys this year, but some, like steen or Morris are probably not a good fit for us… a bunch are probably certainly guards in the nfl… and some, like McClendon are super intriguing from a physical standpoint but need serious work on technique so they are probably like three year projects…
 
I probably should have put that last post in its own thread, but i already posted one in the last 24 hrs and didn’t want to spam the place up too much lol
 
madinsomniac said:
So at OT here would be my targets in order:

Guys id target at 17:
1. Broderick Jones. This guy is just a mauler who is exactly what they want at LT. Solid in pass blocking but a force at runblocking if he pans out
2. Paris Johnson. I still am nervous over his handwork based off of a zillion scouting reports, but he has the physical traits to be great. I see him as boom or bust and i am not that big a fan of such a risk at 17

Guys Id target at 32
1. Peter Skoronski (He will be gone by this point)
Hey if he falls he is worth a shot at Tackle… at worse he becomes a great guard and we trade someone.. short arms aren’t always a death sentence at Tackle and his technique is said to be exquisite…
2. Antwon Harrison- this guy is probably best suited in a pass first offense I think, but he is definitely going to be a LT in the NFL… i don’t think they will take him because I think they are prioritizing run blocks over pass blocking to some extent
3. Dawand Jones. This guy has grown on me, but i just think he is destined to be a great RT rather than a LT… I think the Steelers are pretty high on this guy too… he is probably the favorite if they take a T at 32

At 49:

1. Cody Mauch. This guy would have been a great third round or maybe 4th round pick if he didn’t steal all the thunder at the combine… he is similar to skoronski in that he might end up at guard, but he is a converted TE with a lot of growth and potential, even at OT…
2 Darnell Wright. Yeah this guy will be long gone here… he probably will go in the first… he is another sleeper that just kept climbing the rankings, but I think he is a tad overrated now… if he falls here its probably the upper limit of what his value is
3. Ill put Matthew Burgeron on here but I won’t like it… id rather wait until the third or fourth and get a boom or bust type than go pure Vanilla like this guy…… hey, maybe I will be totally wrong, but he is an ok athlete with ok length who isnt a second level blocker in the run game and probably has a little developing to do as a pass blocker too… hell if he is the only guy left , trade down and see if he drops further lol…

At 80.
1. Blake Freeland… another late climber… super athletic but probably not a rookie starter type
2. Jaylen Duncan… this guy has athleticism and ok length, but he seems like he is going to have to iron out some technical issues on the bench for a year or so…

Later rounds
1. Carter Warren… look the guy got a raw deal… he came back for another year when he was going to be a solid mid round pick and then got hurt and lost in the shuffle with all these OTs… as several sites pointed out he has the frame and athleticism and more experience than most of these guys… he would be a great swing tackle and eventually could be a starter at RT… completely worth a fifth or sixth if we could get one
2. Mason Brooks.. he isn’t going to be a LT, but he fits us for RT a ton… probably the best guy to get the handwork technique we use down pat quickly
3.McClendon Curtis ( as maybe a seventh) he also would be a RT… he might be available as a udfa… he is going to be a super sleeper because he has plenty of athleticism but not in those areas that put up flashy numbers in the combine… good technique, smart, really nasty in the run game… great passblocking grades too… stayed home to play at chattanooga… so he won’t be on any radars…


Now there are a like ten more draftable guys this year, but some, like steen or Morris are probably not a good fit for us… a bunch are probably certainly guards in the nfl… and some, like McClendon are super intriguing from a physical standpoint but need serious work on technique so they are probably like three year projects…
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B. Jones and P Johnson won't be there at pick #17. Skoronski won't be there at pick #32. IMO all three guys will be off the board before pick #17.

D Jones and A Harrison may be there at pick #32. Or they may not. Both guys are good target players. If we are going to take a tackle, we better do it by pick #32. Reaching a tad for D Jones I think at pick # 17 might have to happen or picking the 6th tackle off the board will have to happen. If 6 tackles are taken by pick #31..DARN..

I'm am looking for D Jones penalty flags information. He had a lot of them. How many and what kind? Any OSU fans know?
 
slashsteel said:
I have heard your opinion on the matter. Doesn't make it a high need (it isn't as they have a 1 and 2 on the roster, even if you don't recognize it as such).

The idea of wasting a first round pick on a RB, when this team has a plethora of more important needs is ludicrous.

T,WR,T, CB times 2, depth at OLBer, and depth at DE are bigger needs. A RB would be more of a luxury pick.
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Harris isn't the answer the Steelers only deploy on back on the field 98% of the time. Its a need, unless of course your happy with Harris. At least he is still on his rookie deal. We don't have a NFL top 15 back starting nor does Harris open up the playbook running well outside the box nor is he remotely dangerous as a pass catcher.

WR is need? At best a rookie will be the #3 WR option at best ( baring injury, you can use that excuse for any position ) and Austin III might do well. You tell me why this is a need in the first three rounds?
 
Coach said:
Harris isn't the answer the Steelers only deploy on back on the field 98% of the time. Its a need, unless of course your happy with Harris. At least he is still on his rookie deal. We don't have a NFL top 15 back starting nor does Harris open up the playbook running well outside the box nor is he remotely dangerous as a pass catcher.

WR is need? At best a rookie will be the #3 WR option at best ( baring injury, you can use that excuse for any position ) and Austin III might do well. You tell me why this is a need in the first three rounds?
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Look at what this offense scored per game and go research what the slot WRs contributed on the season. I will save you time as I know you won't research ****. It wasn't good enough. Then imagine one of those two top guys going down. Yeah that would get ugly. The depth and RB is better than the depth at WR. You know that position you keep blindly pimping for a first rounder.

I am pimping a WR between 3 and 4.

Grasp the difference?

Probably not but anywho...
 
Coach said:
Harris isn't the answer the Steelers only deploy on back on the field 98% of the time. Its a need, unless of course your happy with Harris. At least he is still on his rookie deal. We don't have a NFL top 15 back starting nor does Harris open up the playbook running well outside the box nor is he remotely dangerous as a pass catcher.

WR is need? At best a rookie will be the #3 WR option at best ( baring injury, you can use that excuse for any position ) and Austin III might do well. You tell me why this is a need in the first three rounds?
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Harris finished strong last year. He might surprise you in 2023 with an actual line in front of him
 
madinsomniac said:
So at OT here would be my targets in order:

Guys id target at 17:
1. Broderick Jones. This guy is just a mauler who is exactly what they want at LT. Solid in pass blocking but a force at runblocking if he pans out
2. Paris Johnson. I still am nervous over his handwork based off of a zillion scouting reports, but he has the physical traits to be great. I see him as boom or bust and i am not that big a fan of such a risk at 17

Guys Id target at 32
1. Peter Skoronski (He will be gone by this point)
Hey if he falls he is worth a shot at Tackle… at worse he becomes a great guard and we trade someone.. short arms aren’t always a death sentence at Tackle and his technique is said to be exquisite…
2. Antwon Harrison- this guy is probably best suited in a pass first offense I think, but he is definitely going to be a LT in the NFL… i don’t think they will take him because I think they are prioritizing run blocks over pass blocking to some extent
3. Dawand Jones. This guy has grown on me, but i just think he is destined to be a great RT rather than a LT… I think the Steelers are pretty high on this guy too… he is probably the favorite if they take a T at 32

At 49:

1. Cody Mauch. This guy would have been a great third round or maybe 4th round pick if he didn’t steal all the thunder at the combine… he is similar to skoronski in that he might end up at guard, but he is a converted TE with a lot of growth and potential, even at OT…
2 Darnell Wright. Yeah this guy will be long gone here… he probably will go in the first… he is another sleeper that just kept climbing the rankings, but I think he is a tad overrated now… if he falls here its probably the upper limit of what his value is
3. Ill put Matthew Burgeron on here but I won’t like it… id rather wait until the third or fourth and get a boom or bust type than go pure Vanilla like this guy…… hey, maybe I will be totally wrong, but he is an ok athlete with ok length who isnt a second level blocker in the run game and probably has a little developing to do as a pass blocker too… hell if he is the only guy left , trade down and see if he drops further lol…

At 80.
1. Blake Freeland… another late climber… super athletic but probably not a rookie starter type
2. Jaylen Duncan… this guy has athleticism and ok length, but he seems like he is going to have to iron out some technical issues on the bench for a year or so…

Later rounds
1. Carter Warren… look the guy got a raw deal… he came back for another year when he was going to be a solid mid round pick and then got hurt and lost in the shuffle with all these OTs… as several sites pointed out he has the frame and athleticism and more experience than most of these guys… he would be a great swing tackle and eventually could be a starter at RT… completely worth a fifth or sixth if we could get one
2. Mason Brooks.. he isn’t going to be a LT, but he fits us for RT a ton… probably the best guy to get the handwork technique we use down pat quickly
3.McClendon Curtis ( as maybe a seventh) he also would be a RT… he might be available as a udfa… he is going to be a super sleeper because he has plenty of athleticism but not in those areas that put up flashy numbers in the combine… good technique, smart, really nasty in the run game… great passblocking grades too… stayed home to play at chattanooga… so he won’t be on any radars…


Now there are a like ten more draftable guys this year, but some, like steen or Morris are probably not a good fit for us… a bunch are probably certainly guards in the nfl… and some, like McClendon are super intriguing from a physical standpoint but need serious work on technique so they are probably like three year projects…
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I think they have to target a tackle at 17, even if it does come down to Harrison, Wright or Darwand Jones. They just don't come around that often drafting in the second half of the round, and in '24 I see them drafting 22+, so better do it now.
 
Coach said:
Harris isn't the answer the Steelers only deploy on back on the field 98% of the time. Its a need, unless of course your happy with Harris. At least he is still on his rookie deal. We don't have a NFL top 15 back starting nor does Harris open up the playbook running well outside the box nor is he remotely dangerous as a pass catcher.

WR is need? At best a rookie will be the #3 WR option at best ( baring injury, you can use that excuse for any position ) and Austin III might do well. You tell me why this is a need in the first three rounds?
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You're a broken record, STFU already. Najee averaged 16 touches per game last season with a patchwork offensive line, two new QBs, and oh yeah, he was playing injured and still amassed over 1000yards.

Najee was ranked fourth in the NFL for rushing yards his rookie season which hasn't happened since 2017 when Lev bell was third averaging just 4.0 yards per carry. Man did HE suck or what, Coach?

I guess it really sucks for the Steelers to have a back to back 1000 yard running back in the stable. To put it into perspective, here is how many 1000yard backs there have been since 2015; outside of two seasons, less than 50% of the NFL teams had a 1000 yard rusher. It's been 22 years since the NFL had more than 16 1000yard backs. In this day and age of the nfl they are a rarity and the Steelers have had one in two consecutive seasons and you think he sucks???:crazy:

2015: 7
2016: 12
2017: 9
2018: 9
2019: 16
2020: 9
2021: 7 <-- Includes Harris
2022: 16 <-- Includes Harris
 
slashsteel said:
Look at what this offense scored per game and go research what the slot WRs contributed on the season. I will save you time as I know you won't research ****. It wasn't good enough. Then imagine one of those two top guys going down. Yeah that would get ugly. The depth and RB is better than the depth at WR. You know that position you keep blindly pimping for a first rounder.

I am pimping a WR between 3 and 4.

Grasp the difference?

Probably not but anywho...
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Exactly the offense did not score much with Pickett throwing it short so often and Harris getting the lion's share of the carries. The two players were not in on many big plays.

Gee, I did not know that a slot WR makes or breaks an offense. At best at slot is our WR is 4th receiving option! Yet you think that is a primary need? :smile1::smile1:
 
Badcat said:
You're a broken record, STFU already. Najee averaged 16 touches per game last season with a patchwork offensive line, two new QBs, and oh yeah, he was playing injured and still amassed over 1000yards.

Najee was ranked fourth in the NFL for rushing yards his rookie season which hasn't happened since 2017 when Lev bell was third averaging just 4.0 yards per carry. Man did HE suck or what, Coach?

I guess it really sucks for the Steelers to have a back to back 1000 yard running back in the stable. To put it into perspective, here is how many 1000yard backs there have been since 2015; outside of two seasons, less than 50% of the NFL teams had a 1000 yard rusher. It's been 22 years since the NFL had more than 16 1000yard backs. In this day and age of the nfl they are a rarity and the Steelers have had one in two consecutive seasons and you think he sucks???:crazy:

2015: 7
2016: 12
2017: 9
2018: 9
2019: 16
2020: 9
2021: 7 <-- Includes Harris
2022: 16 <-- Includes Harris
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Dude, the 17th game is why Harris had 1,000 yards. Ya think! Now you STFU, okay.
 
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Coach said:
Exactly the offense did not score much with Pickett throwing it short so often and Harris getting the lion's share of the carries. The two players were not in on many big plays.

Gee, I did not know that a slot WR makes or breaks an offense. At best at slot is our WR is 4th receiving option! Yet you think that is a primary need?
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M:smile1:re of a need than a third string RB stank cooch.
 
Coach said:
Harris isn't the answer the Steelers only deploy on back on the field 98% of the time. Its a need, unless of course your happy with Harris. At least he is still on his rookie deal. We don't have a NFL top 15 back starting nor does Harris open up the playbook running well outside the box nor is he remotely dangerous as a pass catcher.

WR is need? At best a rookie will be the #3 WR option at best ( baring injury, you can use that excuse for any position ) and Austin III might do well. You tell me why this is a need in the first three rounds?
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The offensive line needs solidified first. The wide receiver depth chart is bad once you get pasted DJ and Pickens. As it stands now, DJ is an average No. 1 receiver and Pickens is a work in progress. Maybe Austin is good, but we've seen small guys fail so many teams with this team. If I have a young QB, I'm giving him the talent to succeed. If you don't invest in the offense with a young QB, what's the point of drafting one? Philadelphia, Miami, Cincinnati all invested heavily into adding elite weapons for their QBs and the results have been terrific.

Badcat said:
You're a broken record, STFU already. Najee averaged 16 touches per game last season with a patchwork offensive line, two new QBs, and oh yeah, he was playing injured and still amassed over 1000yards.

Najee was ranked fourth in the NFL for rushing yards his rookie season which hasn't happened since 2017 when Lev bell was third averaging just 4.0 yards per carry. Man did HE suck or what, Coach?

I guess it really sucks for the Steelers to have a back to back 1000 yard running back in the stable. To put it into perspective, here is how many 1000yard backs there have been since 2015; outside of two seasons, less than 50% of the NFL teams had a 1000 yard rusher. It's been 22 years since the NFL had more than 16 1000yard backs. In this day and age of the nfl they are a rarity and the Steelers have had one in two consecutive seasons and you think he sucks???:crazy:

2015: 7
2016: 12
2017: 9
2018: 9
2019: 16
2020: 9
2021: 7 <-- Includes Harris
2022: 16 <-- Includes Harris
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Harris is a volume producer so far. He only has 12 out of 35 games averaging at least 4.0 YPC. When they drafted him in the first round, they drafted him to be a stud running back. Etienne missed his rookie year and already has 10 games at 4.0 YPC or greater. Dobbins averages 5.9 YPC for his career so far. The only game he put the team on his back was Baltimore this year and hit was a huge win. They drafted him to do that every week, not once in two years.
 
From mockdraftdatabase

20
Brian Branch
S | Alabama
B+
32
Dawand Jones
OT | Ohio State
A
49
Drew Sanders
LB | Arkansas
A+
52
Julius Brents
CB | Kansas State
A
80
Keeanu Benton
DL | Wisconsin
A+
120
Jonathan Mingo
WR | Mississippi
A
123
Byron Young (TN)
EDGE | Tennessee
A+
154
Ricky Stromberg
IOL | Arkansas
A+
234
Carter Warren
OT | Pittsburgh
B+
241
Max Duggan
QB | TCU
A+
 
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Badcat said:
I did all that research to prove you're an idiot and then you respond to show that I underestimated your idiocy. Dammit!
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Never never underestimate cooch's idiocy. It runs deep ..deep

deep.
 
  • 22.
    Bryan Bresee
    DT Clemson
    trade icon
  • PIT

    32.
    Dawand Jones
    OT Ohio State

  • PIT

    49.
    Tyrique Stevenson
    CB Miami (FL)

  • PIT

    82.
    Jordan Battle
    S Alabama
    trade icon
  • PIT

    86.
    Jonathan Mingo
    WR Ole Miss
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    120.
    Tyjae Spears
    RB Tulane

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    196.
    Nick Herbig
    EDGE Wisconsin
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    234.
    Brenton Strange
    TE Penn State

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    241.
    Jeremy Banks
    LB Tennessee
 
SteelerFan448 said:
The offensive line needs solidified first. The wide receiver depth chart is bad once you get pasted DJ and Pickens. As it stands now, DJ is an average No. 1 receiver and Pickens is a work in progress. Maybe Austin is good, but we've seen small guys fail so many teams with this team. If I have a young QB, I'm giving him the talent to succeed. If you don't invest in the offense with a young QB, what's the point of drafting one? Philadelphia, Miami, Cincinnati all invested heavily into adding elite weapons for their QBs and the results have been terrific.


Harris is a volume producer so far. He only has 12 out of 35 games averaging at least 4.0 YPC. When they drafted him in the first round, they drafted him to be a stud running back. Etienne missed his rookie year and already has 10 games at 4.0 YPC or greater. Dobbins averages 5.9 YPC for his career so far. The only game he put the team on his back was Baltimore this year and hit was a huge win. They drafted him to do that every week, not once in two years.
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^^^ This. Harris is NOT the back we looking for.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
The offensive line needs solidified first. The wide receiver depth chart is bad once you get pasted DJ and Pickens. As it stands now, DJ is an average No. 1 receiver and Pickens is a work in progress. Maybe Austin is good, but we've seen small guys fail so many teams with this team. If I have a young QB, I'm giving him the talent to succeed. If you don't invest in the offense with a young QB, what's the point of drafting one? Philadelphia, Miami, Cincinnati all invested heavily into adding elite weapons for their QBs and the results have been terrific.


Harris is a volume producer so far. He only has 12 out of 35 games averaging at least 4.0 YPC. When they drafted him in the first round, they drafted him to be a stud running back. Etienne missed his rookie year and already has 10 games at 4.0 YPC or greater. Dobbins averages 5.9 YPC for his career so far. The only game he put the team on his back was Baltimore this year and hit was a huge win. They drafted him to do that every week, not once in two years.
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Pickett has fine receivers to work with. We can sign a 4th WR for cheap.
 
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