No losing seasons

[bermudasteel]

The dumb debauchery that could have costed him this game. Right before half time he had a time out but he blew using it costing us a chance at a TD. How difficult is using a TO instead of blowing it and wasting 8 seconds but there he stood, blowing it. That dumb blunder could have costed us the game. Tomlin is just not smart.

As it has been said, 9-3.

 

[bermudasteel]

Spin it how ever you like, but it was a failure in clock management

Let's use your logic...because I strongly disagree w/ you (and @Lloyd):

There were EIGHT seconds on the clock - what happens if Russ is sacked, if his pass is tipped for an interception OR he throws an INT???

That would have deflated the offense.

Since none of us are at the facility and none of us get paid by the Steelers (or the NFL), to coach, it is very easy to assume that 'money was left on the table'. Again, we seen (and if you haven't you're lying) HCs, that all wear yellow jackets now, make the same decision.

Find something else to ***** about - like the weather since that is so damn controllable...

 

[steelhurt]

We won the ******* game here boys, be happy.
Also, did y’all know we tied an NFL record yesterday with 21 straight non losing seasons dating back to the 2004 season under Cowher. We tied Tom Landry’s Cowboys dating from 1965 to 1985.

 

[slashsteel]

As others said before, he managed the clock properly for getting 3 points. If any, we could blame him of being conservative and not going for 7 but the clock was correctly used for the plan he had, low risk/take what's given.

I just don’t prefer that approach in the playoffs. You want that foot on the gas for the game entirety. Especially in regards to the Bungles facing a team they seemed to not be able to slow well and coming off spotting a team an easy pick 6.

 

[Litos]

I just don’t prefer that approach in the playoffs. You want that foot on the gas for the game entirety. Especially in regards to the Bungles facing a team they seemed to not be able to slow well and coming off spotting a team an easy pick 6.

What if you don't get the 7 points, or even 3 And give the ball back to burrow with 50 seconds and some timeouts? That's worse case scenario, that's the one to avoid I think.

 

[slashsteel]

What if you don't get the 7 points, or even 3 And give the ball back to burrow with 50 seconds and some timeouts? That's worse case scenario, that's the one to avoid I think.

We don’t live in our fears.

 

[SteveA]

I guess you would rather have a losing season?

SMH

 

[Litos]

We don’t live in our fears.

That happened last week, 4th down in our own side? Let's go for it... over and over

 

[slashsteel]

That happened last week, 4th down in our own side? Let's go for it... over and over

Well that was dumb football on our own side. That game was filled with dumb football. I will never be a fan of a random let’s go for it on our side of the field play.

 

[Confluence]

^^^THIS^^^


Many here confuse the hatred for this exact thing. It’s not that many don’t want wins more than losses, but it’s the Groundhog Day affect that is very bothersome.

Playoff wins have always been the standard with this franchise, post merger, and many here feel the standard has & is being lowered by this coaching regime.

This year will be different (not yesterdays high talking), this team has some juice in the tank. I just hope the Coaching side’s juice is plentiful enough to last a round or two +, in to the playoffs.


Salute the nation

Well said DIC.

The standard used to be SBs.

Now, for many, it seems to be nonlosing seasons, like all those celebrating about the 9th win this season. Thus, the standard is now SUBstandard, because it is lowered for Tomlin and his teams.

It is great to be 9-3 and have a good lead over the Rats for the afc north, but i do not care if the Steelers finish 14-3 and lose in the playoffs. My standard, which used to seem like the standard of most here, is at least winning a playoff game or two.

The team looks in generally good shape now, but I remember this very similar discussion from the 2020 11-0 start. Recall that ended with the pitiful loss against the coach-less stains after a dreadful December when the D couldn't stop much.

The last time the Steelers were regarded as a serious playoff contender was when? 2014??

It is good to be in that discussion now, but there are still 5 games and a PO victory - or two - needed before the Steelers are regarded as SB contenders.

 

[NoKap#7]

The dumb debauchery that could have costed him this game. Right before half time he had a time out but he blew using it costing us a chance at a TD. How difficult is using a TO instead of blowing it and wasting 8 seconds but there he stood, blowing it. That dumb blunder could have costed us the game. Tomlin is just not smart.

Speaking of dumb...aside from using words you clearly have no idea about tell me why Tomlin needed to use the timeout when Russell could have just as easily clocked it??

 

[NoKap#7]

I think we’d be all strutting around with our chests out proud as could be at our teams achievement of no losing seasons if we had playoff success in the last 14 years.

You would just find something else to complain about. If you're not winning SBs what difference does it make if you get a playoff win or two every year?? You mean you would be satisfied with a participation trophy every year as long as you got a couple of playoff wins??

 

[bermudasteel]

We don’t live in our fears.

True and Boz is money...







Until that FGA is BLOCKED.

 

[slashsteel]

You would just find something else to complain about. If you're not winning SBs what difference does it make if you get a playoff win or two every year?? You mean you would be satisfied with a participation trophy every year as long as you got a couple of playoff wins??

Participation trophy is without playoff wins. As you participated and accomplished nothing in the postseason. A win or two in the postseason is accomplishing something just short of the ultimate prize. For me I am satisfied with a playoff win or two . For me that is something which is always better than nothing.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Well said DIC.

The standard used to be SBs.

Now, for many, it seems to be nonlosing seasons, like all those celebrating about the 9th win this season. Thus, the standard is now SUBstandard, because it is lowered for Tomlin and his teams.

It is great to be 9-3 and have a good lead over the Rats for the afc north, but i do not care if the Steelers finish 14-3 and lose in the playoffs. My standard, which used to seem like the standard of most here, is at least winning a playoff game or two.

The team looks in generally good shape now, but I remember this very similar discussion from the 2020 11-0 start. Recall that ended with the pitiful loss against the coach-less stains after a dreadful December when the D couldn't stop much.

The last time the Steelers were regarded as a serious playoff contender was when? 2014??

It is good to be in that discussion now, but there are still 5 games and a PO victory - or two - needed before the Steelers are regarded as SB contenders.

Well Said Confluence, I’ve beeen watching the STEELERS for many a many moon and appreciate them for what and who they are. That includes every winning and losing season.

Because I want more than just a winning season does not make me less of a fan as some here want to think. Settling for a substandard as non-losing seasons don’t bode well for many who can remember when that standard was so much more elevated.

We are both saying the same thing, looking at a greater big picture and remember history of recent and past seasons.

Thanks for all your great post(s) along the way Confluence, appreciate them.


Salute the nation

 

[MT~Forged]

Let's use your logic...because I strongly disagree w/ you (and @Lloyd):

I have no problem with you disagreeing with me, I have the ability to accept that. We disagree, ok.

There were EIGHT seconds on the clock - what happens if Russ is sacked, if his pass is tipped for an interception OR he throws an INT???

You make a good point, but that wasn’t really address the “time management” issues with this guy. Yes, a bad play could have resulted, just as well as a good play too. I could accept that he was just going to go for the FG, and waiting so as to not leave any time. This would be understandable if not for his MANY examples of “clock management” ineptitude.

That would have deflated the offense.

In weak willed individuals, yes. I would hope that a team with actual playoff aspirations and capabilities would not be a bunch of weak willed individuals

Since none of us are at the facility and none of us get paid by the Steelers (or the NFL), to coach, it is very easy to assume that 'money was left on the table'. Again, we seen (and if you haven't you're lying) HCs, that all wear yellow jackets now, make the same decision.

Correct, I was not included in that “clock management” decision, so do not have firsthand knowledge of the thought process.

Find something else to ***** about - like the weather since that is so damn controllable...

Tomlin has a LONG history of “clock management” ineptitude, bitchen about it is not unacceptable. As for the weather, That didn’t happen.

 

[Steelmann]

You would just find something else to complain about. If you're not winning SBs what difference does it make if you get a playoff win or two every year?? You mean you would be satisfied with a participation trophy every year as long as you got a couple of playoff wins??

I like to see a progression. So I consider..getting to the playoffs…..then hopefully winning some games and hopefully winning the whole thing. I am not delusional in thinking we can win a SB every year. I know it’s a process. But yes I like to see improvement rather than stagnation. Which I believe we have been stuck in for quite a few years. This season has definitely been a season of improvement so far. And yes I’d rather get a playoff Win than sit at home watching other teams playing. Knowing that the experience hopefully goes a step further.

Obviously you’re one of those annoying people that love to insert the words “participation trophy “ because it’s rather trendy even though it’s got nothing to do with the content.

 

[MT~Forged]

Well said DIC.

The standard used to be SBs.

Now, for many, it seems to be nonlosing seasons, like all those celebrating about the 9th win this season. Thus, the standard is now SUBstandard, because it is lowered for Tomlin and his teams.

It is great to be 9-3 and have a good lead over the Rats for the afc north, but i do not care if the Steelers finish 14-3 and lose in the playoffs. My standard, which used to seem like the standard of most here, is at least winning a playoff game or two.

The team looks in generally good shape now, but I remember this very similar discussion from the 2020 11-0 start. Recall that ended with the pitiful loss against the coach-less stains after a dreadful December when the D couldn't stop much.

The last time the Steelers were regarded as a serious playoff contender was when? 2014??

It is good to be in that discussion now, but there are still 5 games and a PO victory - or two - needed before the Steelers are regarded as SB contenders.

With the way this D gives up points to teams with a quality O, I’m not sure they are a legitimate playoff contender. Yesterday looked just like all the other playoff games, giving up 30+ points.

 

[BLITZ]

Well said DIC.

The standard used to be SBs.

Now, for many, it seems to be nonlosing seasons, like all those celebrating about the 9th win this season. Thus, the standard is now SUBstandard, because it is lowered for Tomlin and his teams.

It is great to be 9-3 and have a good lead over the Rats for the afc north, but i do not care if the Steelers finish 14-3 and lose in the playoffs. My standard, which used to seem like the standard of most here, is at least winning a playoff game or two.

The team looks in generally good shape now, but I remember this very similar discussion from the 2020 11-0 start. Recall that ended with the pitiful loss against the coach-less stains after a dreadful December when the D couldn't stop much.

The last time the Steelers were regarded as a serious playoff contender was when? 2014??

It is good to be in that discussion now, but there are still 5 games and a PO victory - or two - needed before the Steelers are regarded as SB contenders.

the standard is and always be Championships. but they are hard to win in Nov and Dec. we should enjoy the 9-3 start. cant win a playoff game if you dont make it to the playoffs

 

[Lloyd]

Actually, costed is a word, just not correctly used here.

https://twominenglish.com/cost-or-costed/

 

[Lloyd]

Speaking of dumb...aside from using words you clearly have no idea about tell me why Tomlin needed to use the timeout when Russell could have just as easily clocked it??

It's not the QBs role to determine what to do with time outs or clocking, get it? I knew if you tried real hard you could.

 

[steel dino]

After watching this team play 12 games into December…
Our chances of winning a playoff game and possibly more, are higher now than they have been for some time!
I’m enjoying the hell out of this season so far..
Minus one snowy night on the lake..

 

[slashsteel]

https://twominenglish.com/cost-or-costed/

Did you learn something cooch?

 

[NoKap#7]

It's not the QBs role to determine what to do with time outs or clocking, get it? I knew if you tried real hard you could.

You're kidding right? It was a two minute offense. You do know what a two minute offense encompasses right? See, this is why people like you just need to stick with discussing what the favorite flavor of koolaid is.

 

[slashsteel]

You're kidding right? It was a two minute offense. You do know what a two minute offense encompasses right? See, this is why people like you just need to stick with discussing what the favorite flavor of koolaid is.

I liked grape but the flavors have morphed over time.