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Not sure how to evaluate KP

He dinks and dunks. He was 1/5 over twenty yards last week. First play of the game had DJ for a 75 yard TD and dumped it instead.
It wasn't a dump, it was a very good read, safer throw, 20+ possible yards. The throw was ****, the read wasn't
 
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And yet, as I noted from the DK article, his completion percentage above expected, ie passes that were completed against the odds, is a 2.0, fourth-best in the league.
As I also noted, he's not a finished product. Seems like you wanted/expected him to come in and be "pro-ready" from the beginning. It hardly ever works that way.
But that was why we drafted him. He was supposed to be the most pro ready QB in the draft. The comparison to Burrow was thrown around a lot. It wasn't his ceiling it was his floor. His floor is much lower than touted by many in the draft community. I am not saying he will be a bust but the odds of him being a successful starting QB are much less now than before the season started. That is a bit concerning.
 
But that was why we drafted him. He was supposed to be the most pro ready QB in the draft. The comparison to Burrow was thrown around a lot. It wasn't his ceiling it was his floor. His floor is much lower than touted by many in the draft community. I am not saying he will be a bust but the odds of him being a successful starting QB are much less now than before the season started. That is a bit concerning.
I call bullshit, comparing a consensus #1 pick in any draft against a guy expected draft position to be around 20? He was the most pro ready of his class, it doesn't mean he was comparable to a consensus #1 QB
 

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Yes, he was. I myself called him a poor man's Joe Burrow. Small hands, similar size, older QB prospect, one year wonder in College. I get the comparison.
 
He's run more quarterback sneaks and scored more rushing tds in a few games then Ben did in the last 10 years. Guy isn't fragile. Though I agree everyone should always be getting stronger. Maybe 10-15 pounds wouldn't hurt. I'd rather have my quarterbacks protected with a great OL and only run when needed on seldom occasions.
If he continues at that pace.....I would be concerned...
Give the rushing TD's to Najee...and keep your QB healthy..
Any hoot----He needs to learn to read red zone and goal line coverages at the pro level...and he wont get that needed experience if he thinks he is Lamar Jackson.
Until he masters that necessary skill set at the pro level...he TD/INT ratio will never improve.
 


Yes, he was. I myself called him a poor man's Joe Burrow. Small hands, similar size, older QB prospect, one year wonder in College. I get the comparison.

There your "poor man's" just makes my point
 
Let me say this again.. there is no correlation to what a qb does in his first 8 games or even his first whole season and how his career will go…
In the History of the NFL, only like 11 rookie qbs have ever even played in at least 8 games and had a 90 or greater passer rating… only like 20 have even cracked 85 on the passer rating….

Many that come out of the gate hot never amount to anything in the long term…. number two on that passer rating list is Robert Griffin the 3rd… Baker Mayfield is like seventh highest all time… most every one that did well (save for Dan Marino) was a guy who was playing in a run first conservative offense and played since 2010 when the short passing game took precedence…

Rookie QBs mostly suck and little of what they do transposes to the rest of their careers…. Marcus Mariota, Teddy Bridgewater, Nick Mullens, Garner Minshew … most of the best rookie qbs peaked that rookie season… and while the jury is still out on Herbert, Burrows, and Tua… the only real HOF guys on that list are Ben, Marino, and Kelly

Its all about learning the game… we wont know **** from the results this season
 


Yes, he was. I myself called him a poor man's Joe Burrow. Small hands, similar size, older QB prospect, one year wonder in College. I get the comparison.

Just because a bunch of writers, and yourself, compared him to Burrow, doesn't make the comparison apt. I compare Kenny Pickett to Kenny Pickett and realize he'll "write his own story." Whatever that may be.
Oh, and I didn't like the pick. But, he's here. He's our QB. And there's no sense in hoping he fails.
 
Just because a bunch of writers, and yourself, compared him to Burrow, doesn't make the comparison apt. I compare Kenny Pickett to Kenny Pickett and realize he'll "write his own story." Whatever that may be.
Oh, and I didn't like the pick. But, he's here. He's our QB. And there's no sense in hoping he fails.
100% agree
 
But that was why we drafted him. He was supposed to be the most pro ready QB in the draft. The comparison to Burrow was thrown around a lot. It wasn't his ceiling it was his floor. His floor is much lower than touted by many in the draft community. I am not saying he will be a bust but the odds of him being a successful starting QB are much less now than before the season started. That is a bit concerning.
The Burrow comparisons were such a stretch. Burrow established himself as an elite QB prospect and had an all-time season at LSU. Pickett was no where near that tier and I would find it hard to believe that anyone seriously thought the two were in the same ballpark in terms of potential.
 
The fact is, it just doesn't matter.
Mike Tomlin is absolute trash without a H.O.F. QB bailing his incompetence out week after week.

Kenny ain't a H.O.F. QB.
If he survived this season it will be a win for him.
 
They don't have to now.
They have a Ronney Rule replacement already on staff who may just be as incompetent as Tomlin.
 
If people really thought KP was close to JB he would have been long long gone before we picked. I think KP pretty much ended up where you would expect. It doesnt mean he is going to be good or bad and NO ONE can say how he will turn out. Malik looked real bad so far, KP looks decent for a rookie to me when you take all things into consideration.
 
They don't have to now.
They have a Ronney Rule replacement already on staff who may just be as incompetent as Tomlin.
Wow ... smh
I hope the next HC they hire looks just like you so that he doesn't offend your sensibilities or upset your world view.
 
The Burrow comparisons were such a stretch. Burrow established himself as an elite QB prospect and had an all-time season at LSU. Pickett was no where near that tier and I would find it hard to believe that anyone seriously thought the two were in the same ballpark in terms of potential.
Who holds the single every single season passing record at Pitt?
 
Just because a bunch of writers, and yourself, compared him to Burrow, doesn't make the comparison apt. I compare Kenny Pickett to Kenny Pickett and realize he'll "write his own story." Whatever that may be.
Oh, and I didn't like the pick. But, he's here. He's our QB. And there's no sense in hoping he fails.
Just ignore the facts to support the comparison. It’s funny how no one was upset about the hype until he didn’t live up to it.
 
Just ignore the facts to support the comparison. It’s funny how no one was upset about the hype until he didn’t live up to it.
I'm not upset about the comparison now. Because I don't believe the comparison is apt. Which I also said leading up to the draft.
As far as "facts", the opinions of a bunch of writers, and yourself, are not "facts". They are opinions.
 
Just ignore the facts to support the comparison. It’s funny how no one was upset about the hype until he didn’t live up to it.
I thought he shouldn't have been drafted there, so hardly would I compare him to a consensus #1. But now he is here and I'll root for him, and I won't blame him for a 75 yard pass that he didn't take when he saw a better 20 + yards opportunity. Hardly a dump off as you stated.

Is he a franchise QB? Hardly
Can he become one? Maybe, I'll root for it and be fair when criticizing him.
 
I'm not upset about the comparison now. Because I don't believe the comparison is apt. Which I also said leading up to the draft.
As far as "facts", the opinions of a bunch of writers, and yourself, are not "facts". They are opinions.
Facts.
Joe Burrow 6-3
Kenny Pickett 6-3

Joe Burrow 220lbs
Kenny pickett 217lbs

Joe Burrow 9”
Kenny Pickett 8.5”

Both hold schools single season passing records after mediocre college careers.

Those facts not opinions.
 
Facts.
Joe Burrow 6-3
Kenny Pickett 6-3

Joe Burrow 220lbs
Kenny pickett 217lbs

Joe Burrow 9”
Kenny Pickett 8.5”

Both hold schools single season passing records after mediocre college careers.

Those facts not opinions.
And those "facts" are a very minimalistic and basic comparison of the two. If that's all that the writers you cited, along with yourself, are basing your comparison on, then they, and you, were/are lazy with your evaluation. What about accuracy? What about arm strength? What about mobility? What about speed? How about processing speed and ability to read the field at an NFL level?
There's so much more than size, hand size, and school passing records that needs to be addressed to even begin to make an informed comparison between the two.
 
And those "facts" are a very minimalistic and basic comparison of the two. If that's all that the writers you cited, along with yourself, are basing your comparison on, then they, and you, were/are lazy with your evaluation. What about accuracy? What about arm strength? What about mobility? What about speed? How about processing speed and ability to read the field at an NFL level?
There's so much more than size, hand size, and school passing records that needs to be addressed to even begin to make an informed comparison between the two.
Dude you are lazy. You didn’t read a single one of those articles. Calling them lazy for doing research and putting that information on paragraphs of writing when you can’t take an hour to read it makes you the lazy one.
 
Dude you are lazy. You didn’t read a single one of those articles. Calling them lazy for doing research and putting that information on paragraphs of writing when you can’t take an hour to read it makes you the lazy one.
Bruh, you presented Height/Weight/Handsize as the ultimate comparison between the two. I didn't do that. You did.
You're right, I didn't read a single one of those articles. Beeeecaaause ... ta da ... Burrow and Pickett are two different QBs, in two different systems (as they were in college), on two different teams, with different players surrounding them, and with two different sets of metrics .... Comparing who they were in college does not provide a good measuring stick for who they are/will be as pros. As someone else noted, based on where they were taken in the draft, it's apparent that real NFL talent evaluators believed the same.
 
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