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Not sure how to evaluate KP

Facts.
Joe Burrow 6-3
Kenny Pickett 6-3

Joe Burrow 220lbs
Kenny pickett 217lbs

Joe Burrow 9”
Kenny Pickett 8.5”

Both hold schools single season passing records after mediocre college careers.

Those facts not opinions.
Here are some "facts" for you. Burrow has a 40 point higher college rating than Pickett. Picketts best year he was rated 165 and Burrows was 202. Overall they are at 136 and 173 average. Not to mention LSU was 15-0 Burrows final year and 10-3 his previous year. Not sure how Burrow had a mediocre college career w/ a 15-0 national champ team?? Based on your wonderful scouting if you were a scout obviously you would have selected Pickett in the top 10 correct?

 
Bruh, you presented Height/Weight/Handsize as the ultimate comparison between the two. I didn't do that. You did.
You're right, I didn't read a single one of those articles. Beeeecaaause ... ta da ... Burrow and Pickett are two different QBs, in two different systems (as they were in college), on two different teams, with different players surrounding them, and with two different sets of metrics .... Comparing who they were in college does not provide a good measuring stick for who they are/will be as pros. As someone else noted, based on where they were taken in the draft, it's apparent that real NFL talent evaluators believed the same.
That is literally the stupidest comment I’ve read in this forum. You can’t compare players because they are different and there’s different teammates. Guess we can’t compare stats because there’s different players on the team. Or because the moon and sun are in different positions and the gravitational pull is different. Just asinine.
 
Just for fun here is your hero Rudolf's college stats. Based on your scouting he should be in the hall of fame by now. No idea how he lasted until the 3rd round. I have no idea what is wrong with these NFL scouts....For quick reference he is rated at about 160 average

 
Here are some "facts" for you. Burrow has a 40 point higher college rating than Pickett. Picketts best year he was rated 165 and Burrows was 202. Overall they are at 136 and 173 average. Not to mention LSU was 15-0 Burrows final year and 10-3 his previous year. Not sure how Burrow had a mediocre college career w/ a 15-0 national champ team?? Based on your wonderful scouting if you were a scout obviously you would have selected Pickett in the top 10 correct?

Poor… mans… Joe Burrow. Derp
 
Just for fun here is your hero Rudolf's college stats. Based on your scouting he should be in the hall of fame by now. No idea how he lasted until the 3rd round. I have no idea what is wrong with these NFL scouts....For quick reference he is rated at about 160 average

To be honest. Rudolph probably would have been the first QB off the board last year.
 
That is literally the stupidest comment I’ve read in this forum. You can’t compare players because they are different and there’s different teammates. Guess we can’t compare stats because there’s different players on the team. Or because the moon and sun are in different positions and the gravitational pull is different. Just asinine.
I'd suggest you go reread your own comparison of Burrow and Pickett, that was limited to Size/Weight/Handsize for the stupidest comment you've read on this site. Of course, there are also numerous posts where you tout Mason ******* Rudolph as the savior of the franchise .... those suck too. If you can't see that the teams they go to, the talent they are surrounded with, the coaches/coordinators they work with all impact their growth as rookie QBs IN THE NFL, not college production, then there's really no hope for you.
What's asinine is the fact that you want to push this Burrow/Pickett comparison so bad when it just isn't there on the NFL Level. They're two different QBs and you'd better hope that Pickett develops to be the better one.
 
I'd suggest you go reread your own comparison of Burrow and Pickett, that was limited to Size/Weight/Handsize for the stupidest comment you've read on this site. Of course, there are also numerous posts where you tout Mason ******* Rudolph as the savior of the franchise .... those suck too. If you can't see that the teams they go to, the talent they are surrounded with, the coaches/coordinators they work with all impact their growth as rookie QBs IN THE NFL, not college, then there's really no hope for you.
What's asinine is the fact that you want to push this Burrow/Pickett comparison so bad when it just isn't there on the NFL Level. They're two different QBs and you'd better hope that Pickett develops to be the better one.
Yeah. First go read the dozens of articles comparing the two. But wait. tHoSe ArE sTuPiD aNd LaZy
 
To be honest. Rudolph probably would have been the first QB off the board last year.
You come up w/ some of the most non-sense I have seen. Do you know who was drafted ahead of Rudolf? Mayfield, Darnold, Lamar, Rosen, and Josh Allen. Of those do you know who was the highest rated? It was Mayfield w/ a 189. Rudolf would have been second at 160 that year so obviously he should have been at least the #2 QB off the board.
 
I wonder what Carson Strong is doing now. He should be setting the NFL on fire since he's 6'3", 226 lbs and has 9 1/4 hands.
 
You come up w/ some of the most non-sense I have seen. Do you know who was drafted ahead of Rudolf? Mayfield, Darnold, Lamar, Rosen, and Josh Allen. Of those do you know who was the highest rated? It was Mayfield w/ a 189. Rudolf would have been second at 160 that year so obviously he should have been at least the #2 QB off the board.
It was a deep QB class. This one was weak. But you know… non-sense.
 
I wonder what Carson Strong is doing now. He should be setting the NFL on fire since he's 6'3", 226 lbs and has 9 1/4 hands.
He also has a bum leg that didn’t pass the medical exam.
 
It was a deep QB class. This one was weak. But you know… non-sense.
A deep QB class where Mason was 6'5 and 230 pounds and had the 2nd highest rating out of them all, but yet lasted clear until the 3rd round. Just please stop w/ your BS
 
Maybe you two can jerk each other off while watching highlights of Kenny at Pitt later?
 
Maybe you two can jerk each other off while watching highlights of Kenny at Pitt later?
Wow, you've got some pretty perverse fantasies dude. You should probably get some professional help.
 
Roethlisberger had a 66.0 QB rating in 2019 before he got hurt. Albeit in two games and off 62 passing attempts. But he did not start off well that year.
Yeah, you think that maybe Ben's elbow was bothering him for that first game-and-a-half? You know, the one he needed to have surgery on, causing him to miss the whole rest of that season? When he was wincing after nearly every 10+ yard pass? Possibly that may have been the key factor in his 66 passer rating?

Couldn't pass up an opportunity to provide a back-handed defense of your idol Mason Rudolph, could you? So amusing.
 
I wonder what Carson Strong is doing now. He should be setting the NFL on fire since he's 6'3", 226 lbs and has 9 1/4 hands.
Strong couldn't beat out Ian Book for the third-string QB position on the Eagles. Of course, he fell 79 yards short of Nevada's single-season passing record, so he's not like Burrow and Pickett at all. Stop using poor examples, will you? :no:
 
Once more... none of this is worth discussing yet... after six games I can make a list of qbs and nothing correlates to how they turned out... look at either manning, they both had passer ratings round 55 after six games... Peyton threw 6 tds in those games.. but 14 picks. Eli had 3 tds and 7 picks... neither had a rushing td... Hell, eli didn't have a season with a passer rating over 77 his first four years... both went on to win super bowls... after six

Many, if not most QBs sit for a season or even multiple years before starting... Rodgers, Rivers, Mahomes, these guys say for a season or a few because regardless of talent rookies typically suck...
 
Maybe you two can jerk each other off while watching highlights of Kenny at Pitt later?
Little over the top don't you think? I think it is at the stage in the discussion that people should agree to disagree and move on. I think everyone at this point knows each others stance. Give Pickett some time and revisit your viewpoints.
 
Little over the top don't you think? I think it is at the stage in the discussion that people should agree to disagree and move on. I think everyone at this point knows each others stance. Give Pickett some time and revisit your viewpoints.
Nope. When someone is proven wrong and keeps digging deeper instead of just admitting it they deserve to be ridiculed. I admit I’m wrong all the time. It’s not a big deal. But there’s a huge percentage on this board that can’t just say, “I’m sorry you were right.”
 
Nope. When someone is proven wrong and keeps digging deeper instead of just admitting it they deserve to be ridiculed. I admit I’m wrong all the time. It’s not a big deal. But there’s a huge percentage on this board that can’t just say, “I’m sorry you were right.”
You have been pretty much destroyed in every way possible and i am not even a huge Pickett fan. You used physical comparisons and claimed burrow had a mediocre college career. He had 1 good year and one phenomenal year where he went 15-0 and a national champ. It doesn't get much better than that. Also using your own facts / stats when Rudolph was drafted you could argue Rudolph should have been the #1 pick overall not the 5th or 6th QB taken and not a 3rd round talent. Mayfield had a very consistent college career and a avg rating of 189 which is pretty damn good. Just shows there is way more to a QB than height, weight hand size and college "facts."
 
Nope. When someone is proven wrong and keeps digging deeper instead of just admitting it they deserve to be ridiculed. I admit I’m wrong all the time. It’s not a big deal. But there’s a huge percentage on this board that can’t just say, “I’m sorry you were right.”
The thing is, you've proven nothing other than the comparable size/weight/handsize and the oh so reliable "they both broke school records".
Your bias towards Rudolph is blinding you to any good things Pickett may do and making you exaggerate the bad. In short, you're a mockery of the valued poster you could be and, I guess, have been. And your ego is so bloated that you expect people to apologize to you? OK, just for you
"I'm sorry, you are not right"
 
I thought he shouldn't have been drafted there, so hardly would I compare him to a consensus #1. But now he is here and I'll root for him, and I won't blame him for a 75 yard pass that he didn't take when he saw a better 20 + yards opportunity. Hardly a dump off as you stated.

Is he a franchise QB? Hardly
Can he become one? Maybe, I'll root for it and be fair when criticizing him.
He dumped it to Pickens for an incompletion.
 
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