Reported: Russell Wilson to Start Against the Jets

[Drink IRON City]

Fair ..
Based on his past performances, current stage of career, other immeasurable variables, etc, etc..I would put him at top 15 in league right now.
And yes, there are always QBs starting in the NFL that I would consider lower tier performers…. Every year.

I can't quite yet rate where Russ would settle in at, league wise. Once he plays and establishes what level of play he is currently at, until then all is just guessing. I do hope you are correct in being top 15 or better, that would do wonders for this struggling offense.

My biggest concern is his health, especially behind this "paper-clipped together" offensive line. His movement will be needed but also his pocket awareness will be valued.


Salute the nation

 

[TimesAreChanged]

I can't quite yet rate where Russ would settle in at, league wise. Once he plays and establishes what level of play he is currently at, until then all is just guessing. I do hope you are correct in being top 15 or better, that would do wonders for this struggling offense.

My biggest concern is his health, especially behind this "paper-clipped together" offensive line. His movement will be needed but also his pocket awareness will be valued.


Salute the nation

All of this nonsense will be out to bed Sunday night. There will be people who will find any detail to magnify especially if the game is an L and even if it's a W

Wilson will have to completely shut the bed for me to want to regress to Fields. They will ignore the first 6 games of the season of it serves them

 

[SteveA]

I'm just so glad we got two great QB's...I love em both...

We can and WILL win with either...

 

[TimesAreChanged]

I'm just so glad we got two great QB's...I love em both...

We can and WILL win with either...

Exactly. 2 great players And more importantly, they are great teammates. It's the team that wins and loses. Wilson has always been the consummate professional, gracious, unassuming, and no ego. Fields impressed me when he took responsibility for his performance and said had he played better, there wouldn't be a debate.

 

[stillwright]

All of this nonsense will be out to bed Sunday night. There will be people who will find any detail to magnify especially if the game is an L and even if it's a W

Wilson will have to completely shut the bed for me to want to regress to Fields. They will ignore the first 6 games of the season of it serves them

Regardless of the outcome of Sunday nite if Russ starts....you have to give him multiple games to adjust back to football. I hope Tomlin told him as much. Simply go out and play and not be looking over his shoulder. Otherwise he shouldn't be starting.

Some are saying give Russ to the bye week. I would give him more games than that.

I am more worried about the offensive system we employ and our OL. Add in also our depth issue at WRs....than I am Russ. Question is can Russ succeed with all of the above? As you said above...Sunday nite all the nonsense will be put to bed.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

I will take a wild guess that he is banking on Russ as the reason we are better.

Wrong we are better with either of them. Russ has a much higher floor and Fields at this point has the higher ceiling long term. Kenny, whom I defended until he ran away didn’t have Russ floor or Fields ceiling and is older than Fields. I was all for keeping Kenny and not signing either one as I thought it would have cost us a lot more but I am quite happy right now having both. Short term I think Russ will raise the level of our passing game but long term I am hoping watching Russ for a bit will rub off on Fields. He has never really ever sat and watched a good Vet play.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Regardless of the outcome of Sunday nite if Russ starts....you have to give him multiple games to adjust back to football. I hope Tomlin told him as much. Simply go out and play and not be looking over his shoulder. Otherwise he shouldn't be starting.

Some are saying give Russ to the bye week. I would give him more games than that.

I am more worried about the offensive system we employ and our OL. Add in also our depth issue at WRs....than I am Russ. Question is can Russ succeed with all of the above? As you said above...Sunday nite all the nonsense will be put to bed.

This will be a good test for this system as it was designed for a QB like Russ. If we go Fields long term we would need to tweak this system as he is not, at this point a good play action passer. I am hoping he learns.

 

[steel dino]

Regardless of the outcome of Sunday nite if Russ starts....you have to give him multiple games to adjust back to football. I hope Tomlin told him as much. Simply go out and play and not be looking over his shoulder. Otherwise he shouldn't be starting.

Some are saying give Russ to the bye week. I would give him more games than that.

I am more worried about the offensive system we employ and our OL. Add in also our depth issue at WRs....than I am Russ. Question is can Russ succeed with all of the above? As you said above...Sunday nite all the nonsense will be put to bed.

Without Russell playing to his potential, even at this stage of his career.
We don’t win the division and/or win one playoff game imho..

 

[bigben]

Huh? We are far better at O Line aside from injuries, QB is light years ahead of last year and will be even better IMHO when Wilson is in and utilizes our receivers better. I am not sure where we disconnected. I was referring to why isn't Mason starting in TN.

I would start Mason in Tenn as well.
My point was the line is better on paper. In reality, Jones looks like a bust seamalu is not what he was in Philly. Fautanu and frazier should help. But they are hurt. And the running game is worse. Oh and we still don't have our guy at QB.

 

[Stewey]

All of this nonsense will be out to bed Sunday night. There will be people who will find any detail to magnify especially if the game is an L and even if it's a W

Wilson will have to completely shut the bed for me to want to regress to Fields. They will ignore the first 6 games of the season of it serves them

Yours included.
Clown.

 

[Stewey]

Exactly. 2 great players And more importantly, they are great teammates. It's the team that wins and loses. Wilson has always been the consummate professional, gracious, unassuming, and no ego. Fields impressed me when he took responsibility for his performance and said had he played better, there wouldn't be a debate.

You like both QB’s now?
So what exactly were you whining about?

 

[slashsteel]

Take your meds boomer. And then come let me give you the mouthful you desperately crave.

You will need to gay on your own time. (not that anyone is judging you)

 

[slashsteel]

Reports are out that Mike Tomlin has named the starter.


But will keep it in house.

 

[slashsteel]

Pickens is something else.

(Accidentally reveals starter)

https://x.com/bepryor/status/1847330919268384883

 

[Lloyd]

The only reason to stick with Fields is to try to develop him for the future. He's had moments but overall, he is not good. The 4 wins are defensive wins. Probably would have won those 4 with Kyle Allen or Kenny Pickett.

They want to see the offense run properly. Wilson can do that. He's not perfect but he reads defenses much better than Fields.

I think it's a good move to use Rus at least for a few weeks. We need to see this offense properly run before making any impulsive trades. It could help Fields too. Let him see Rus go through progression and not look for the big play each time and see how it makes the offense run better.

Everything is connected in Smith's offense. Start completing more on time passes and it will make it easier to run.

The other factor is that there's no unbeatable team in the NFL now. With the way the defense is playing, if they get above the line QB play, as crazy as it sounds, this Steeler team does have a shot this year to make a run in the playoffs. Look at what happened with Flacco and the Browns last year. Flacco is not great but he's solid. He makes the right reads and gets the ball out on time.

I don't know; this is what Fields' 4th year? And he still can't read a D, at all? Seems a little too long to me. I'm sure we could still limp along and barely hold onto a "non-losing" record but success in the playoffs? I don't see it, not after 7 years or 10. And the Flacco comparison; he never was close in winning in the playoffs, don't forget that.

 

[SteveA]

GP bro….

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

I don't know; this is what Fields' 4th year? And he still can't read a D, at all? Seems a little too long to me. I'm sure we could still limp along and barely hold onto a "non-losing" record but success in the playoffs? I don't see it, not after 7 years or 10. And the Flacco comparison; he never was close in winning in the playoffs, don't forget that.

I give Fields a bit of a pass for his Bears years. He had 2 different OCs in 3 years. In 2022, his leading WRs were Darnell Mooney and Equanimious St Brown. They were desperate enough to trade for Claypool. In 2023 they got DJ Moore and for the first time he had a go to WR. Fields was having a decent 23 season but he got injured.

I also think his time at Ohio State hurt his development as a pocket passer. He made plenty of plays but it was so damn easy most of the time. He was throwing to multiple 1st round WRs who were usually wide open. His read was, throw to wide open guy or take off running. I don't blame OSU, their job is to win college football games, but it didn't prepare him for the NFL

A big part of his problem is that he still wants guys college open like at OSU. I think he does go through his reads (slowly) and he just doesn't pull the trigger on throws that are NFL open. He needs to speed up his process and also get accustomed to tight window throws. If he can watch Russ complete some of those over the next few weeks, it could help him.

Bottom line is Fields was a project coming out of college. He needed competent coaching and a good supporting cast at the NFL level. He got neither in Chicago. He is getting that now in Pittsburgh. The OL is shaky due to injury, but it's a good system for Fields.

I'd rather be trying to develop Fields than Anthony Richardson

 

[madinsomniac]

Young Russell Wilson is probably the most mobile QB to ever win a Super Bowl, but even then he was always looking for the pass over the run.
The year he won the SB he averaged 6 attempts per game... iirc outside of Russ, no QB who has averaged more than five attempts in a season any time in their entire careers has ever won a super Bowl..
Though Newton made it to one before getting shut down and Lamar, Vick and Kordel all made to conference Championship games..

Fields ran 55 times in 6 games thats over 9 times a game... on pace for 155 carries...
on top of that, his time from snap to throw was over 3 seconds... one of the highest among starting qbs this year..

A mobile qb who gives you 60-80 carries a year is fine... but a guy turning that many passes into runs isnt healthy for an O... you can see why they want him to season more on the bench while Wilson tries to maximize the passing game

 

[SteelerSask2]

Maybe Tomlin told Pickens it was Russ knowing he couldn't help but run his stupid *** mouth.

 

[jitter77]

Young Russell Wilson is probably the most mobile QB to ever win a Super Bowl, but even then he was always looking for the pass over the run.
The year he won the SB he averaged 6 attempts per game... iirc outside of Russ, no QB who has averaged more than five attempts in a season any time in their entire careers has ever won a super Bowl..
Though Newton made it to one before getting shut down and Lamar, Vick and Kordel all made to conference Championship games..

Fields ran 55 times in 6 games thats over 9 times a game... on pace for 155 carries...
on top of that, his time from snap to throw was over 3 seconds... one of the highest among starting qbs this year..

A mobile qb who gives you 60-80 carries a year is fine... but a guy turning that many passes into runs isnt healthy for an O... you can see why they want him to season more on the bench while Wilson tries to maximize the passing game

Steve Young?

 

[Lloyd]

I give Fields a bit of a pass for his Bears years. He had 2 different OCs in 3 years. In 2022, his leading WRs were Darnell Mooney and Equanimious St Brown. They were desperate enough to trade for Claypool. In 2023 they got DJ Moore and for the first time he had a go to WR. Fields was having a decent 23 season but he got injured.

I also think his time at Ohio State hurt his development as a pocket passer. He made plenty of plays but it was so damn easy most of the time. He was throwing to multiple 1st round WRs who were usually wide open. His read was, throw to wide open guy or take off running. I don't blame OSU, their job is to win college football games, but it didn't prepare him for the NFL

A big part of his problem is that he still wants guys college open like at OSU. I think he does go through his reads (slowly) and he just doesn't pull the trigger on throws that are NFL open. He needs to speed up his process and also get accustomed to tight window throws. If he can watch Russ complete some of those over the next few weeks, it could help him.

Bottom line is Fields was a project coming out of college. He needed competent coaching and a good supporting cast at the NFL level. He got neither in Chicago. He is getting that now in Pittsburgh. The OL is shaky due to injury, but it's a good system for Fields.

I'd rather be trying to develop Fields than Anthony Richardson

Fine, I'm willing to acquiesce some to the points on Fields laboring in Chicago, so noted. But those 3 years did exist even if not ideally. Those were still 3 years of NFL experience which is worth something (experience with NFL speed of players, etc.). So, no, time spent with the Bears was not the most well-used time with Fields but it did exist, however imperfectly. And yes, the OL is still hot garbage (for how many years in a row?). And Fields did have all the off season to prepare. But he still can't find open receivers?

 

[stillwright]

Wrong we are better with either of them. Russ has a much higher floor and Fields at this point has the higher ceiling long term. Kenny, whom I defended until he ran away didn’t have Russ floor or Fields ceiling and is older than Fields. I was all for keeping Kenny and not signing either one as I thought it would have cost us a lot more but I am quite happy right now having both. Short term I think Russ will raise the level of our passing game but long term I am hoping watching Russ for a bit will rub off on Fields. He has never really ever sat and watched a good Vet play.

Well....maybe only half wrong then.

 

[stillwright]

Steve Young?

What about Joe Flacco also?

 

[Stewey]

Both Flacco and Rudolph had similar experiences last season.
Both took their teams to the playoffs, once there both get crushed.
Except Mason had an excuse. He had no playoff experience.
Flacco played really crappy vs Houston.

 

[Stewey]

Steve Young?

If you’re old enough to remember, the most mobile QB to ever play in a Super Bowl win or lose was Fran Tarkenton.
He was pretty amazing.