Rural Ohio

[ZonaBurgh]

I'm not sure about Ohio, but Trump is going to have a hard time winning Pennsylvania again.

In 2016, a lot of the black vote around Pittsburgh and especially Philadelphia stayed home due to indifference towards Clinton.

As recent primaries showed, Biden can get blacks to the polls on a similar scale to what Obama could.

Also, Trump is not going to get anywhere near the votes from moderate Democrats that he received last time.

Anything can happen over the next five months, as Biden could have an egregious senior moment during the debates, but Trump's in trouble.

I understand that Trump's personality is not warm and fuzzy, and he can come off as blunt and uncaring at times. The economy did have black unemployment at historic low levels, that should count for something.

But honestly, Biden makes Michael Dukakis look Presidential.

 

[SojournerSteel]

It's a little like the adage in the NFL that "the reason they hire you is the reason they fire you."

Trump started out 9-2 if this was a NFL season, and through a series of catastrophic injuries, turnovers, bad calls, interference from Riveron, cheating by the Pats, and bad luck now finds the team at 9-5 with an incessantly hostile NY media calling for his scalp. Suddenly, the antics and originality start to wear thin with fairweather fans amidst the media onslaught and focus on negativity.

He's just got to dig in, get off the schneid, and hope to find some momentum for the playoff push.

Everything is still in play.

 

[Djfan]

It's Wyoming here. All Trump all the time.

One dude I work with has a Warren bumper sticker on his Ford Ranger. He's gay.

 

[Punxsutawney]

I understand that Trump's personality is not warm and fuzzy, and he can come off as blunt and uncaring at times. The economy did have black unemployment at historic low levels, that should count for something.

But honestly, Biden makes Michael Dukakis look Presidential.

The economy was the biggest reason why he looked like he was heading towards an easy re-election back in February, but for reasons beyond his control, it's fallen apart.

Since he no longer can lean on low unemployment and the economy, the eyes of the electorate is going to be squarely on his temperament and behavior, which is a negative for many people.

He's pretty much going to have to convince Americans that he's the better choice to continue to lead the country thru the pandemic, recession and social tensions.

Biden has his flaws, but I think most of the country sees him as bringing more stable direction and leadership to the top of the government.

 

[Vader]

Biden has his flaws, but I think most of the country sees him as bringing more stable direction and leadership to the top of the government.

No one is going to look at Biden as "Stable" for anything. He's already lurched way to the left. People don't generally even pay attention to politics until after Labor Day. All these polls are heavily weighted. Just like the ones in 2016. Once summer is over and people start taking a look at Biden (especially at the debates) his numbers will drop like a rock.

 

[deljzc]

I'm convinced the senate will remain Republican and there might even be more gains in the house than some imagine.

So thankfully, if/when Biden is elected the biggest thing will be who he nominates to replace RBG on the court. She is holding out against all odds hoping Trump doesn't win again. But because the Republicans will likely control the Senate (that's important) then they have some leverage on the nominee to at least be a moderate lefty. That might not mean all that much but we've seen a LOT of 7-2 rulings with only the ******* women on the other side (Ginsberg and Sotomayor) who basically don't even listen to debate anymore - they just vote whichever way the lefties want.

Getting another moderate matters. At least to me.

Other than Ginsberg's spot Biden's presidency will be nothing. Nothing will get done. His executive actions will all get challenged in court. He will be a figurehead trying to make all part of his "base" happy, which is impossible.

All set up for Nikki Haley in 2024 who will be our first woman President and a daughter of Indian immigrants. When the so-called "racists and misogynists" vote her in, the left will just go bat-**** crazy.

I think we can survive 4 years of Sleepy, senile Joe as long as we control the Senate and philabuster everything.

 

[Stewey]

The economy was the biggest reason why he looked like he was heading towards an easy re-election back in February, but for reasons beyond his control, it's fallen apart.

Since he no longer can lean on low unemployment and the economy, the eyes of the electorate is going to be squarely on his temperament and behavior, which is a negative for many people.

He's pretty much going to have to convince Americans that he's the better choice to continue to lead the country thru the pandemic, recession and social tensions.

Biden has his flaws, but I think most of the country sees him as bringing more stable direction and leadership to the top of the government.

Biden has flaws? Just flaws? No, Trump has flaws. Biden is a ******* criminal. Biden has dementia and doesn't even know where he is half the time.. A hair sniffing groper who unlike Trump actually did bribe the Ukrainians. The guy was an idiot before he had dementia.

Trump can still lean on the economy and low unemployment. He didn't cause Corona and the economy including the market are slowly but surely coming back.

 

[SCSteeler4life]

Biden has flaws? Just flaws? No, Trump has flaws. Biden is a ******* criminal. Biden has dementia and doesn't even know where he is half the time.. A hair sniffing groper who unlike Trump actually did bribe the Ukrainians. The guy was an idiot before he had dementia.

Trump can still lean on the economy and low unemployment. He didn't cause Corona and the economy including the market are slowly but surely coming back.

He has also said some extremely racist **** over his career. Loved the this classic-

Jan. 31, 2007

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

— Joe Biden, describing fellow candidate Barack Obama. The remark was made the same day Biden filed the official paperwork to launch his presidential campaign.

 

[Vader]

I'm convinced the senate will remain Republican and there might even be more gains in the house than some imagine.

So thankfully, if/when Biden is elected the biggest thing will be who he nominates to replace RBG on the court. She is holding out against all odds hoping Trump doesn't win again. But because the Republicans will likely control the Senate (that's important) then they have some leverage on the nominee to at least be a moderate lefty. That might not mean all that much but we've seen a LOT of 7-2 rulings with only the ******* women on the other side (Ginsberg and Sotomayor) who basically don't even listen to debate anymore - they just vote whichever way the lefties want.

Getting another moderate matters. At least to me.

Other than Ginsberg's spot Biden's presidency will be nothing. Nothing will get done. His executive actions will all get challenged in court. He will be a figurehead trying to make all part of his "base" happy, which is impossible.

All set up for Nikki Haley in 2024 who will be our first woman President and a daughter of Indian immigrants. When the so-called "racists and misogynists" vote her in, the left will just go bat-**** crazy.

I think we can survive 4 years of Sleepy, senile Joe as long as we control the Senate and philabuster everything.

I disagree somewhat. If Biden is elected then he'll put on an ultra liberal just like Clinton did and Obama. Both got their liberal justices through GOP controlled senates with ease. The Reps don't play hardball. Please name me one single appointee to the SC by a dem that didn't make it? Just one... not only do they get put on the court, but most of the votes aren't even close. They'll give him any SC justice he wants. Bank on it.

Also I'm not in love with Haley. I'd rather have Carlson. Haley left the administration and now is on the board of Boeing. She's done everything to a "T" to get ready for 2024. I'm not sure she is enough of an outsider for me. She seems a bit "swampie" to me? We'll see.

 

[SteelChip]

Biden has his flaws, but I think most of the country sees him as bringing more stable direction and leadership to the top of the government.

No one is going to look at Biden as "Stable" for anything. He's already lurched way to the left. People don't generally even pay attention to politics until after Labor Day. All these polls are heavily weighted. Just like the ones in 2016. Once summer is over and people start taking a look at Biden (especially at the debates) his numbers will drop like a rock.

Hey...Punxsutawney...you owe me a keyboard.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

In southwest PA where I live there aren't any signs for anyone yet.

 

[Booted]

In southwest PA where I live there aren't any signs for anyone yet.

In all of Hungary, there is just one yard with a Biden sign.

 

[Supersteeler]

As recent primaries showed, Biden can get blacks to the polls on a similar scale to what Obama could.

It must be the way Biden continuously insults and talks down to Black people in public, that makes them want to vote for him. It's a bold strategy, I'll give him that. Who knows, maybe it will actually pay off for him.

 

[SCSteeler4life]

It must be the way Biden continuously insults and talks down to Black people in public, that makes them want to vote for him. It's a bold strategy, I'll give him that. Who knows, maybe it will actually pay off for him.

Yep Joe loves the black people especially the clean ones like Obama.

 

[deljzc]

I disagree somewhat. If Biden is elected then he'll put on an ultra liberal just like Clinton did and Obama. Both got their liberal justices through GOP controlled senates with ease. The Reps don't play hardball. Please name me one single appointee to the SC by a dem that didn't make it? Just one... not only do they get put on the court, but most of the votes aren't even close. They'll give him any SC justice he wants. Bank on it.

Also I'm not in love with Haley. I'd rather have Carlson. Haley left the administration and now is on the board of Boeing. She's done everything to a "T" to get ready for 2024. I'm not sure she is enough of an outsider for me. She seems a bit "swampie" to me? We'll see.

It's just a different political atmosphere now. The right is not going to cave and let a super-liberal in like RBG again. Not if they have the votes in the Senate.

I think even more than the Presidency right now, we should all be paying attention to the Senate battles.

First, as opposed to 2018, this November there are predominantly Republican's up for re-election in the Senate: 23 (R) and 12 (D) are up for re-election. So that makes it very hard to make gains and easier to lose seats.

Luckily, republicans are almost assuredly going to re-take Alabama (+1) to total 54.

But there are FIVE (maybe six) toss-ups that are held by Republicans

Arizona (McSally), Maine (Collins), Colorado (Gardner), Montana (Daines) and North Carolina (Tillis). Georgia (Loeffler), is getting blatantly attacked my big media right now over her conservative opinions vs. her ownership of a WNBA franchise so that's potentially one to watch as well.

I mean, a really bad turnout by Republicans and it's not looking good at all. Trump, even if his ship is sinking, MUST campaign hard in these states to help the sitting Senators.

We will see, but it's arguably more important that the Presidency.

 

[jitter77]

Lots of things going against Trump going to really have to pull out a rabbit to win. In 2016 Trump was different and seen as change. Now Trumps schtick has grown old amongst many and he is not helping himself. Once Biden comes out of his hole things may change, but if I was Biden there is no reason to come out. Trump is self-destructing himself. People talk about the polls, but they are right way more than they are wrong. Also Trump is down in the key states more than he was with Hillary. The Tulsa rally is also a warning sign for Trump as not many showed up. If the Dems show up like they did to the protests, trump has no shot. Trump can turn it around, but I do not think his ego will let him do it. I feel his only shot is getting Biden out in the public and exposing his declining mental state.

 

[Vader]

It's just a different political atmosphere now. The right is not going to cave and let a super-liberal in like RBG again. Not if they have the votes in the Senate.

There are enough Rinos along with Dems to get anyone Biden wants in the SC. These aren't new Reps. they are the same old bunch as before. Mitch will still be the leader and just like always he won't do anything. You may have faith in them but I don't because I've seen this rodeo before. You'd think after Bork that the Reps would at least vote against ONE Dem but they didn't. They overwhelming vote to confirm everyone a dem president send up there.

 

[Punxsutawney]

No one is going to look at Biden as "Stable" for anything. He's already lurched way to the left. People don't generally even pay attention to politics until after Labor Day. All these polls are heavily weighted. Just like the ones in 2016. Once summer is over and people start taking a look at Biden (especially at the debates) his numbers will drop like a rock.

Compared to Trump, I do believe that most Americans view Biden as more stable.

I'm not necessarily saying it's the correct view, but Biden is currently killing Trump in the state polls for a reason.

 

[Steelworth]

Compared to Trump, I do believe that most Americans view Biden as more stable.

Most Americans view Biden as more stable? Holy **** are we screwed if that's true. Trump can at least finish sentences and knows what state he's in (or what office he's running for etc.)

 

[Sarge]

Compared to Trump, I do believe that most Americans view Biden as more stable.

I'm not necessarily saying it's the correct view, but Biden is currently killing Trump in the state polls for a reason.

It's not because Americans view Biden as more stable. That's laughable. Trump is losing for two reasons. 1) There is an all out assault on Trump. No matter what he says or does, it is spun negatively 24/7. 2) Trump is an idiot. He can't keep his mouth shut, insulting people and saying stupid **** over and over. He is making it easy. Add that to the economy and Covid, and he is history, and it will be mostly his fault.

 

[SteelChip]

It's not because Americans view Biden as more stable. That's laughable. Trump is losing for two reasons. 1) There is an all out assault on Trump. No matter what he says or does, it is spun negatively 24/7. 2) Trump is an idiot. He can't keep his mouth shut, insulting people and saying stupid **** over and over. He is making it easy. Add that to the economy and Covid, and he is history, and it will be mostly his fault.

I can't even fathom a reason why anyone would vote for Biden but I agree that Trump is hurting himself on top of all the TDS.

Biden as more stable

Bwahahahaha...only on the short bus.

Boot got him a special short bus

 

[Steelworth]

I can't even fathom a reason why anyone would vote for Biden but I agree that Trump is hurting himself on top of all the TDS.

He sure doesn't seem to know when to stop insulting or tweeting about Bolton, Romney or anybody else who's critical of him and just learn to worry about the bigger stuff.

But I think Sarge's first point doesn't get the seriousness/significance it truly needs to get. There is an all-out assault on Trump 24/7 and I think it has taken its toll and has worn people down. And in a time of economic uncertainty, a global pandemic and an internal war being waged on the country's founding principles and fathers, people are already worn down.

It's a shame, because in the hands of Marxists under the guise of progressive Democrat socialism, this country is doomed.

 

[Booted]

Boot got him a special short bus

Oh yeah, and it's not all bling...It's got an onboard defibrillator, oxygen above each seat. Bullet proof glass . And each seat has the capacity to hold 3 quarts of piss in just in case there isn't a rest stop every 3 miles. But most of all....NO MALARKEY!!

 

[Ron Burgundy]

It's a shame, because in the hands of Marxists under the guise of progressive Democrat socialism, this country is doomed.

I may have to make another run at moving to Italy. Funny that Europe is moving to the Right while we are moving to the Left.

 

[jitter77]

He sure doesn't seem to know when to stop insulting or tweeting about Bolton, Romney or anybody else who's critical of him and just learn to worry about the bigger stuff.

But I think Sarge's first point doesn't get the seriousness/significance it truly needs to get. There is an all-out assault on Trump 24/7 and I think it has taken its toll and has worn people down. And in a time of economic uncertainty, a global pandemic and an internal war being waged on the country's founding principles and fathers, people are already worn down.

It's a shame, because in the hands of Marxists under the guise of progressive Democrat socialism, this country is doomed.

The problem is Trump brought the war upon himself with stupid comments, insults, and just plain lies. If he would just do his job and stfu he would win in a landslide, but he keeps sticking his foot in his mouth. You can beat down people without being a dumbass, but he resorts to teenage insults instead. Some life long republicans said they wont vote for trump or biden, but a non-vote for trump is a win for biden.