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Our headline finding is that both illegal immigrants and legal immigrants have incarceration rates far below those of native-born Americans—at 0.85 percent, 0.47 percent, and 1.53 percent, respectively.

So the United States has an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants - more than the rest of the world combined, by the way. Putting aside the fact that your study ignores the fact that "incarceration rates" do NOT, repeat do NOT, include illegals arrested and who served time only to be deported or those arrested and simply deported, but whatever. Let's use that bogus, ginned-up, phony, understated number.

Lessee 11,000,000 x 0.085 = 935,000 incarcerated prisoners, i.e., incarcerated for reasons other than immigration violations.

Nine-hundred-and-thirty-five-*******-thousand illegals currently in American jails on our expense and that is not an issue to you?!?!?

******* California has been FORCED to release dangerous criminals due to prison overcrowding. Those released prisoners are now homeless, engaged in routine property crimes, breaking into cars, and making California more miserable than necessary.

THOSE CRIMINALS WOULD NOT BE ON THE STREET BUT FOR THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ILLEGALS IN CALIFORNIA'S JAILS.

Look, Tibs, I know you lived in Long Beach years and years ago. You should return and see what a once-beautiful city looks like today.

You really should.

And illegals and the massive financial burden they bring with them is a huge, ******* HUGE, reason. Anybody who thinks otherwise is simply living in ignorance.

Oh, but good news. California can suck my dick. Have spent my whole life here, but I and a ****-ton of other educated, middle-class residents are leaving. Will be soon - a matter of months.

Hey, California will be thrilled to see me and my massive personal income tax and property tax hit the road. They have dozens of illegals ready to take my place!!
 
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So the United States has an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants - more than the rest of the world combined, by the way. Putting aside the fact that your study ignores the fact that "incarceration rates" do NOT, repeat do NOT, include illegals arrested and who served time only to be deported or those arrested and simply deported, but whatever. Let's use that bogus, ginned-up, phony, understated number.

Lessee 11,000,000 x 0.085 = 935,000 incarcerated prisoners, i.e., incarcerated for reasons other than immigration violations.

Nine-hundred-and-thirty-five-*******-thousand illegals currently in American jails on our expense and that is not an issue to you?!?!?

******* California has been FORCED to release dangerous criminals due to prison overcrowding. Those released prisoners are now homeless, engaged in routine property crimes, breaking into cars, and making California more miserable than necessary.

THOSE CRIMINALS WOULD NOT BE ON THE STREET BUT FOR THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ILLEGALS IN CALIFORNIA'S JAILS.

Look, Tibs, I know you lived in Long Beach years and years ago. You should return and see what a once-beautiful city looks like today.

You really should.

And illegals and the massive financial burden they bring with them is a huge, ******* HUGE, reason. Anybody who thinks otherwise is simply living in ignorance.

Oh, but good news. California can suck my dick. Have spent my whole life here, but I and a ****-ton of other educated, middle-class residents are leaving. Will be soon - a matter of months.

Hey, California will be thrilled to see me and my massive personal income tax and property tax hit the road. They have dozens of illegals ready to take my place!!

I have a neighbor who is moving to Idaho. He says that’s gold. My Midwest business roots are too deep to consider that, but he makes it sound awesome.
 
So the United States has an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants - more than the rest of the world combined, by the way. Putting aside the fact that your study ignores the fact that "incarceration rates" do NOT, repeat do NOT, include illegals arrested and who served time only to be deported or those arrested and simply deported, but whatever. Let's use that bogus, ginned-up, phony, understated number.

Lessee 11,000,000 x 0.085 = 935,000 incarcerated prisoners, i.e., incarcerated for reasons other than immigration violations.

.85 percent, not 8.5 percent. 93,500
 
.85 percent, not 8.5 percent. 93,500

.85 percent, as you have written, is actually 85%. 9,350,000.

I think you meant .0085. That will get you to 93,500.

In order to get the product that you seek (you know, showing a smaller number), one of the factors must get smaller, not larger.

You're welcome.
 
.85 percent, as you have written, is actually 85%. 9,350,000.

I think you meant .0085. That will get you to 93,500.

In order to get the product that you seek (you know, showing a smaller number), one of the factors must get smaller, not larger.

You're welcome.

JFC!

No, .85 is 85 percent

.85 PERCENT is .0085.

You’re welcome. Tim, I’m liking that you liked that.
 
I'm new here so I don't understand why you guys have a thread talking about toning down the racism, then you have this one that is totally racist by taking a few bad apples which every group has and painting that whole group with the same brush.

Have you guys seen what El Presidente Trump has done when it comes to sex? Does he represent all white people?
 
I'm new here so I don't understand why you guys have a thread talking about toning down the racism, then you have this one that is totally racist by taking a few bad apples which every group has and painting that whole group with the same brush.

Have you guys seen what El Presidente Trump has done when it comes to sex? Does he represent all white people?

Yet all gun owners are judged by the actions of a few...but that is totally fair. "El Presidente Trump" allegedly had a mutual consensual relationship with a porn star 9 years ago before he ever ran for office...what is your point? Not like El Presidente Clinton that got his knob polished in the oval office by an intern...but feel free to ignore those facts. Or better yet, maybe the democrats should take their own advice and stay out of the bedroom (except when it benefits them apparently).

BTW if you are an illegal immigrant and you commit a crime in this country, yes I will lump you with every other illegal immigrant because every last one of you is a criminal on day one just by being here illegally. But don't let facts stand in the way of your rhetoric.
 
JFC!

No, .85 is 85 percent

.85 PERCENT is .0085.

You’re welcome. Tim, I’m liking that you liked that.

I understand his error and understand why both sides are confused. I LIKED the post because either way you compute it there are a **** ton of illegal immigrants that are incarcerated - ON OUR DIME. The issue doesn't go away or become so small any way you compute it to eliminate the point that we pay the way for these illegal aliens that subsequently commit crimes.

0.85 and 0.85 "percent" mean completely different things. 0.85 means 85%. 0.85 percent means .0085.
 
I'm new here so I don't understand why you guys have a thread talking about toning down the racism, then you have this one that is totally racist by taking a few bad apples which every group has and painting that whole group with the same brush.

Have you guys seen what El Presidente Trump has done when it comes to sex? Does he represent all white people?

I'm going to continue to repeat this point.

There is NOTHING racist about this thread. Every population, regardless how you segment it, has criminals.

Americans are not "illegal" aliens. Illegal Aliens are "illegal." They are criminals by being here. Period. There is no slicing that or spinning it another way. Anyone here illegally is a criminal.

Illegal aliens live off of American tax payer dollars. They use a substantial amount of our tax dollars. FAIR estimates this cost to be $113Billion a year. What could we do with that $113Billion?

THEN when illegal aliens commit additional crimes besides just being here illegally - such as murder, rape, assault, burglary - we have to incarcerate and try them - AT ADDITIONAL EXPENSE TO THE AMERICAN TAX PAYER.

And had they not been here, the Kate Steinle's of the world would be alive.

These are facts. Facts are not racist.
 
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JFC!

No, .85 is 85 percent

.85 PERCENT is .0085.

You’re welcome. Tim, I’m liking that you liked that.

who in the hell says .85 percent? Is that common core? I am dead serious I have never seen it presented that way. I work in electrical / electronics, so I use decimals a lot. Never saw it that way. For us it is milli, micro, etc. for example, if you write .0085, it is read as 8.5m. if you write .85 it means 850m.

So .85 percent is .0085? Learn something every day. Thanks.
 
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who in the hell says .85 percent? Is that common core? I am dead serious I have never seen it presented that way. I work in electrical / electronics, so I use decimals a lot. Never saw it that way. For us it is milli, micro, etc. for example, if you write .0085, it is read as 8.5m. if you write .85 it means 850m.

So .85 percent is .0085? Learn something every day. Thanks.

That's how satellites end up heading into the sun instead of bringing me HBO.
 
Being right is easy when you avoid alternative facts.

Atta boy! Congrats on your new found enlightenment!

Although going forward not sure how you plan to debate without using alternative facts.

Oh wait!....you've still got distortions, and lies.
 
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Yet all gun owners are judged by the actions of a few...but that is totally fair. "El Presidente Trump" allegedly had a mutual consensual relationship with a porn star 9 years ago before he ever ran for office...what is your point? Not like El Presidente Clinton that got his knob polished in the oval office by an intern...but feel free to ignore those facts. Or better yet, maybe the democrats should take their own advice and stay out of the bedroom (except when it benefits them apparently).

BTW if you are an illegal immigrant and you commit a crime in this country, yes I will lump you with every other illegal immigrant because every last one of you is a criminal on day one just by being here illegally. But don't let facts stand in the way of your rhetoric.

I think you're mixing apples and oranges. Gun owners aren't all painted with the same brush people just want to see weapons like AR's and hi cap mags removed from easy access as they are nothing but efficient killing machines that serve no usefull purpose for civilians.

And when I mentioned Trump I was speaking of his sexcapades in their totality, including sexual assault and rape.

Crossing the border doesn't make you a criminal, you could also just be an economic refugee. It's just semantics. I'll bet 90% of you here cheat on your taxes, but you would never dream of classifying yourself as a criminal.
 
who in the hell says .85 percent? Is that common core? I am dead serious I have never seen it presented that way. I work in electrical / electronics, so I use decimals a lot. Never saw it that way. For us it is milli, micro, etc. for example, if you write .0085, it is read as 8.5m. if you write .85 it means 850m.

So .85 percent is .0085? Learn something every day. Thanks.

When spoken you'll hear "point eight five percent" ...easier to say than "eighty five ten thousandths (.0085) ...."the stock market is down point eight five percent." = .85%
 
I think you're mixing apples and oranges. Gun owners aren't all painted with the same brush people just want to see weapons like AR's and hi cap mags removed from easy access as they are nothing but efficient killing machines that serve no usefull purpose for civilians.
You haven't been paying attention then.

And when I mentioned Trump I was speaking of his sexcapades in their totality, including sexual assault and rape.
No allegations of sexual assault and rape. You must be thinking of Bill Clinton. You'll deny this, so please respond with a link from a credible mainstream news source.

Crossing the border doesn't make you a criminal,
Yes it does.

you could also just be an economic refugee.
Yes they are. Not our problem. Why don't you ask why their countries are shitholes that they want to leave?

It's just semantics.
No it isn't. There are legal ways to enter the country and live and work here. If that's not what you're doing then you're breaking the law. You have immigrated illegally, hence you are an illegal immigrant.

I'll bet 90% of you here cheat on your taxes, but you would never dream of classifying yourself as a criminal.
A CPA does my taxes. However I do have only a casual relationship with speed limits although I pay the penalty when necessary.

Welcome back Elfie. :waving:
 
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I think you're mixing apples and oranges. Gun owners aren't all painted with the same brush people just want to see weapons like AR's and hi cap mags removed from easy access as they are nothing but efficient killing machines that serve no usefull purpose for civilians.

And when I mentioned Trump I was speaking of his sexcapades in their totality, including sexual assault and rape.

Crossing the border doesn't make you a criminal, you could also just be an economic refugee. It's just semantics. I'll bet 90% of you here cheat on your taxes, but you would never dream of classifying yourself as a criminal.


Another liberal atop his perch of liberal superiority lecturing law abiding gun owners that their gun serves no useful purpose.
Newsflash...whether they serve a useful purpose or not is not for you to decide Mr. Hogg.


btw... what does AR stand for?


You just got through yapping about apples and oranges...then proceed to equate cheating on your taxes to crossing the border illegally. Funny stuff.
 
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I think you're mixing apples and oranges. Gun owners aren't all painted with the same brush people just want to see weapons like AR's and hi cap mags removed from easy access as they are nothing but efficient killing machines that serve no usefull purpose for civilians.

Spoken like a true libtard. Once again, what guns were used on 9/11 or the Boston Marathon or the school stabbings in PA? The purpose of the weapon is up to the owner and those of us that own AR and semi-auto weapons that have never killed anyone or used it for anything illegal must have bought broken ******* guns. Wonder if I can get a ******* refund since my gun has never killed anyone ...the damn things must be ****.

Crossing the border doesn't make you a criminal, you could also just be an economic refugee. It's just semantics.

The law says otherwise. If you are in this country without a VISA or Green Card you are an illegal immigrant. Just by being here you have committed a crime.

I'll bet 90% of you here cheat on your taxes, but you would never dream of classifying yourself as a criminal.

I'll bet 90% of what you say is bullshit and I bet that my 90% is a hell of a lot more accurate than your 90% claim on taxes that you just pulled out of your ***.
 
I'm new here so I don't understand why you guys have a thread talking about toning down the racism, then you have this one that is totally racist by taking a few bad apples which every group has and painting that whole group with the same brush.

Have you guys seen what El Presidente Trump has done when it comes to sex? Does he represent all white people?

Why yes he does. You think he is the first guy to have a affair. He screwed a pin cushion for dicks 10 years ago. No one gives a ****.
 
Some of them are cop killers and here illegally and HAPPY they've killed.

Illegal immigrant cop killer smirks at death sentence-- and victims’ families grin back

Illegal immigrant Luis Bracamontes smiled again Tuesday as a California jury handed him a death sentence following his conviction in the 2014 killing of two sheriff's deputies, but this time, the deputies' families gave the cold-blooded killer a taste of his own medicine.

"I was smiling back at him purposely," Jeri Oliver, Sacramento County Sheriff's Deputy Danny Oliver's mother, told The Sacarmento Bee after court. Debbie McMahon, the mother of fallen Placer County Sheriff Detective Michael Davis Jr., agreed “to smile at him for a change."

The convicted cop killer made headlines during his trial in January when he smiled and went into a profanity-laced rant in court, saying, “I wish I had killed more of the mother-------s,” and promised to “kill more, kill whoever gets in front of me ... There's no need for a f---ing trial."

He also shouted in court that he was guilty and asked to be put to death. The defense tried to convince the judge to enter a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity.

After hours of deliberation Tuesday, a Sacramento Superior Court jury ruled that Bracamontes will get what he asked for and receive the death penalty for his heinous crimes.

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who in the hell says .85 percent? Is that common core? I am dead serious I have never seen it presented that way. I work in electrical / electronics, so I use decimals a lot. Never saw it that way. For us it is milli, micro, etc. for example, if you write .0085, it is read as 8.5m. if you write .85 it means 850m.

So .85 percent is .0085? Learn something every day. Thanks.

Yes, as in less than 1 percent. 85/100ths of one percent.
 
Elfie comes back as Don Chorizo. He had everyone fooled for exactly 5 minutes.

My favorite bar here occasionally has chorizo and white bean chili as the Soup of the Week. It's freaking orgasmic.
 
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