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Steelers Draft Rumors

madinsomniac said:
So if they want Broderick jones and don’t think he will be there at 17, then trade Dionte, a seventh and our third for Houston’s 12th overall, then trade down with the 17th to get a lower first and another third or second round pick. Trade down with the 32nd and get at least an extra fourth or fifth rounder…

Either draft Addison or Dell to replace Dionte then draft that kid from West Virginia later in the
fourth or fifth
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That's a lot of moving pieces, and quite the haul if successful. Can Khan mimic Costner in "Draft Day"?
 
madinsomniac said:
So if they want Broderick jones and don’t think he will be there at 17, then trade Dionte, a seventh and our third for Houston’s 12th overall,
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If you were a Houston fan, would you be happy with that trade. I'd have a stroke, they're rebuilding and I don't see them giving away a 12th round pick for DJ, pick 80 and basically a guy who may or may not be an undrafted free agent.
 
KStilley said:
If you were a Houston fan, would you be happy with that trade. I'd have a stroke, they're rebuilding and I don't see them giving away a 12th round pick for DJ, pick 80 and basically a guy who may or may not be an undrafted free agent.
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That trade wasn’t concocted by me. It was a rumor from national sources that may have originated from the Houston media. It was making the rumor mill rounds last week

Based off of DJ’s production and contract, and what other comparable wrs went for around last years draft, this is absolutely fair market value… maybe even a slight overpayment on the Steelers part…
 
madinsomniac said:
That trade wasn’t concocted by me. It was a rumor from national sources that may have originated from the Houston media. It was making the rumor mill rounds last week

Based off of DJ’s production and contract, and what other comparable wrs went for around last years draft, this is absolutely fair market value… maybe even a slight overpayment on the Steelers part…
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The question remains Mad, should a team like Houston take that deal for a WR who will be a free agent in two years who will be 29years old at that time? Personally, I would hate it. If I'm Houston with about 12 picks this year, the only thing I'm trading number 12 for if nothing is there that you have to jump on is additional picks and start loading up next year. I'm for rebuilding, not remodeling.
 
we need the 32 pick, the signingof Breiden Fehokowas is to replace Tyson, Watts is just a upgrade replacement for Wormley. Adams is a decent NT but not a dominant one and at 32 we can get Smith, or trade down a few spots get a 6th and take Benton like Smith a down DL or in the 3rd Fowler from Florida with cam at 30 we need to mold a big massive 1t
 
SteelerFan448 said:
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Yep. Ike was saying he was "a dog" and when questioned on his podcast about his scouting at Miami. Ike seemed to indicate they have a first round grade on Stevenson. Also, Ike mentioned Florida has a pair of freshmen WRs who are going to be No. 1 picks when they come out.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
No. I read the Bears would want 32 and 49 to do this. Carter is not worth that.

Trade back, damnit!!!
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Carter is one of the only elite talents in this draft, but the Steelers need to continue to build depth. I'd still prefer to trade back because over the past three drafts, the front office has done a pretty good job in the early rounds.

2020
1. Minkah Fitzpatrick
2. Chase Claypool - a productive starter as a rookie. I still think he can be a solid player, but the combination of a poorly run offense and maybe not the greatest work ethic (just assuming based on his performance) limited his potential. Either way, you cannot ignore his over 14 yards per reception during his first two seasons.
3. Alex Highsmith - very productive starter who can play the run and pass.

2021
1. Najee Harris - bad value taking a running back, but a solid player.
2. Pat Freiermuth - Already one of the top tight ends in the NFL. Probably should be a bigger red zone threat than he is.
3. Kendrick Green - a reach that definitely feels forced.

2022
1. Kenny Pickett - improved as the season went on.
2. George Pickens - Has star potential, but must continue to develop as a route runner.
3. DeMarvin Leal - Probably only a role player and a guy Austin must find a spot for.

Basically, the first and second round picks have been money. These guys are stepping in and contributing early on. Right now the Steelers have three top-50 picks and could get three starters. You definitely don't want to turn three starters into one with a trade and you better get an All-Pro if you move 32 to move up into the top 10.

I don't think any of the tackles are that level of elite, but Carter could be. Interior defensive linemen are quickly moving up into the category of premium players and Carter is probably the best player in this draft. However, this rumor feels more like smoke than anything else, especially after Carter declined a pre-draft visit to Pittsburgh.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
Carter is one of the only elite talents in this draft, but the Steelers need to continue to build depth. I'd still prefer to trade back because over the past three drafts, the front office has done a pretty good job in the early rounds.

2020
1. Minkah Fitzpatrick
2. Chase Claypool - a productive starter as a rookie. I still think he can be a solid player, but the combination of a poorly run offense and maybe not the greatest work ethic (just assuming based on his performance) limited his potential. Either way, you cannot ignore his over 14 yards per reception during his first two seasons.
3. Alex Highsmith - very productive starter who can play the run and pass.

2021
1. Najee Harris - bad value taking a running back, but a solid player.
2. Pat Freiermuth - Already one of the top tight ends in the NFL. Probably should be a bigger red zone threat than he is.
3. Kendrick Green - a reach that definitely feels forced.

2022
1. Kenny Pickett - improved as the season went on.
2. George Pickens - Has star potential, but must continue to develop as a route runner.
3. DeMarvin Leal - Probably only a role player and a guy Austin must find a spot for.

Basically, the first and second round picks have been money. These guys are stepping in and contributing early on. Right now the Steelers have three top-50 picks and could get three starters. You definitely don't want to turn three starters into one with a trade and you better get an All-Pro if you move 32 to move up into the top 10.

I don't think any of the tackles are that level of elite, but Carter could be. Interior defensive linemen are quickly moving up into the category of premium players and Carter is probably the best player in this draft. However, this rumor feels more like smoke than anything else, especially after Carter declined a pre-draft visit to Pittsburgh.
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To this day Chase confuses me. Obviously the talent is there. I do know out of the gates he hired a trainer that seemed to do him well. Did he stick with him? Did he get lazy or change up his training regimen? I think he should revisit his rookie approach.

As far as the rumor that screams of making sure Carter stays ahead of 17 if anything. Or they purposely threw out a wrong name camouflaging their real interest (LT).
 
slashsteel said:
To this day Chase confuses me. Obviously the talent is there. I do know out of the gates he hired a trainer that seemed to do him well. Did he stick with him? Did he get lazy or change up his training regimen? I think he should revisit his rookie approach.

As far as the rumor that screams of making sure Carter stays ahead of 17 if anything. Or they purposely threw out a wrong name camouflaging their real interest (LT).
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The Carter rumor is puzzling, mainly because you have the best prospect in the draft falling to No. 9. I'll be surprised if that happens. Again, IDL is a very valuable position and would be a great addition for just about any team. I just don't see how you don't build around Pickett if you're the Steelers. This is an offensive driven league and the Steelers aren't productive enough in this area.
 
One thing I don't understand about the Bears trade rumors are the Bears are in the market for a DT (why would they trade down if Carter was there?), an OT (why would they trade down if Johnson was there?), a CB (why would they trade down if a top CB was there), and a pass rusher. The Steelers could possibly want to trade up for three of the four top needs for the Bears. You'd think the Steelers would need to move ahead of the Bears, not trade with them, unless the Bears just want to accumulate picks and are satisfied with a lesser prospect.
 
The Bears trading the Steelers again this soon? They got ****** in the *** with the chase trade, hopefully the next one would be the equivalent of wipe the dick on the curtains
 
slashsteel said:
To this day Chase confuses me. Obviously the talent is there. I do know out of the gates he hired a trainer that seemed to do him well. Did he stick with him? Did he get lazy or change up his training regimen? I think he should revisit his rookie approach.

As far as the rumor that screams of making sure Carter stays ahead of 17 if anything. Or they purposely threw out a wrong name camouflaging their real interest (LT).
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His high point is ankle deep.
 
BLITZ said:
The Bears trading the Steelers again this soon? They got ****** in the *** with the chase trade, hopefully the next one would be the equivalent of wipe the dick on the curtains
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they are just trying to get even, nothing they offer will be a fair deal
 
Drink IRON City said:
Dang, we need to much to trade multiple picks to move up.

On the PLUS, they’re saying for a Tackle……. We need one badly but, at 17 we will get a good enough one.


Salute the nation
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I heard it was for Carter
 
SteelerFan448 said:
One thing I don't understand about the Bears trade rumors are the Bears are in the market for a DT (why would they trade down if Carter was there?), an OT (why would they trade down if Johnson was there?), a CB (why would they trade down if a top CB was there), and a pass rusher. The Steelers could possibly want to trade up for three of the four top needs for the Bears. You'd think the Steelers would need to move ahead of the Bears, not trade with them, unless the Bears just want to accumulate picks and are satisfied with a lesser prospect.
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If we trade up in a loaded draft for a guy who is falling for off field and bad workout reasons, we sure as **** better be certain that guy is a future hall of famer… if he is bush 2.0 then every single front office person should lose their jobs…
This is not the kind of draft where trading up makes sense
 
madinsomniac said:
If we trade up in a loaded draft for a guy who is falling for off field and bad workout reasons, we sure as **** better be certain that guy is a future hall of famer… if he is bush 2.0 then every single front office person should lose their jobs…
This is not the kind of draft where trading up makes sense
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If Myron Cope were still alive, he’d say it best…….. Double Yoi !!!!

NO move up, madinsomniac says says it very well and thanks for all your great post(s) along the way.


Salute the nation
 
Stlrs4Life said:
I heard it was for Carter
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I hope there is no move up. There will be a “starter” player at 1.17 and 2.1, so no need to move up. It is a very talented and deep draft. Dew Sanders will be around at 32 and possibly 49 if there feel they need to go that’s direction at ILB.

We have bigger needs than to trade early draft picks to obtain one player. We need all three with our first three picks.



Salute the nation
 
Drink IRON City said:
I hope there is no move up. There will be a “starter” player at 1.17 and 2.1, so no need to move up. It is a very talented and deep draft. Dew Sanders will be around at 32 and possibly 49 if there feel they need to go that’s direction at ILB.

We have bigger needs than to trade early draft picks to obtain one player. We need all three with our first three picks.



Salute the nation
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I just feel like you trade up if you are perhaps one player away from a SB appearance. I don't think the Steelers are that. If anything they are a middle of the road team. I am ok with a trade down after 17. I think at 17 the value should be there at a need position.
 
I think this trade ipntalk is beyond ridiculous. This team already has stars. I don't want one star for two great players. And by the way one of those great players could be a star. You have 3 of the top 50. Get 'em all.
 
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