Steelers trade for Justin Fields

[stillwright]

Seems like the Steelers came to the conclusion that KFP was not the guy to build around, or even to hold the fort until that franchise QB shows up.
And that they want to see if Fields may be that guy, like when Steve Young

Fields will never see the field. Then his option year is $25 mill. Next season both will be gone.

 

[TimesHaveChanged]

What are lottery numbers genius since you think you know things

 

[stillwright]

Just playing the odds is all. Wilson is the starter. Fields is the back up. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out does it?

Maybe Tomlin will rotate our qbs this year.

Didn't think they could mismanaged the qb situation anymore than they have but now you got me thinking that it is a possibility.

 

[steel dino]

Just playing the odds is all. Wilson is the starter. Fields is the back up. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out does it?

Maybe Tomlin will rotate our qbs this year.

Didn't think they could mismanaged the qb situation anymore than they have but now you got me thinking that it is a possibility.

I’m hoping Artie Smith can help Coach T with that..

 

[diver]

So me saying that they have been lying to us is me believing in what they are saying?

As for the draft....yep. That is exactly what I want them to do. Show their draft board to the world.

You seem to be upset about it. Since you are, it sure as hell isn't a far leap to think you believed them on some level. I said earlier in this thread that I'll believe their lies with a grain of salt, but more because it seems a lot more fun to me than to be doom and gloom. But I am too damn old to be upset when they are proven to be lies, if they are.

As for the second part, I illustrated the point with the ridiculous. I know you are not for that. No one would be. But don't expect truth.

 

[diver]

Just playing the odds is all. Wilson is the starter. Fields is the back up. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out does it?

Maybe Tomlin will rotate our qbs this year.

Didn't think they could mismanaged the qb situation anymore than they have but now you got me thinking that it is a possibility.

Does Pickett have a brother? Are you it?

Look, I would have preferred they have given Pickett a chance. I always felt he was just a guy that was gonna take a bit, like most QBs do. I also think he was put in a bad situation with the OC. Elmer Fudd may have drawn up a better offense. But at the end of the day, he folded. I never would have thought he'd do that.

Lastly, more and more this is a year to year league. You could think you have it all set up, a couple of injuries hit and poof! With the preponderance of 14 year old heads each team tends to have (they all do), can you keep them focused from year to year? Give Andy Reid credit. What he is doing is very impressive in keeping that team together. And he has 14 year olds. Kelce and Mahomes having their little pissy fits on the sidelines. So my point is, who does really know? You may be right, the Steelers blow up. But Wilson could find the fountain of youth, they get hot at the right time, avoid injuries, stay focused and go places we never expected.

 

[NoKap#7]

JJ Mccarthey could be there at 5-10, I think he’s a fit for what Arthur Smith does but I’m not the GM

Our GM needs to be agressive in my opinion, pick his guy and go up and get him in the top 10, we are just treading water with Wilson and Fields, going nowhere important…wild card and out

I think 5-10 may be overdrafting for McCarthy. We don't need to be making the same mistake we made in 2022 by overdrafting because someone believes we're desperate for a QB. I do think McCarthy is a legit first rd pick, but I'm not moving up to get him plus giving up 1st rd pick next year which is likely what would have to happen. Look how much overdrafting set them back in 2022? They missed out on a PB center and now they need a center and as far as you're concerned a QB.

 

[biscuits4u2]

Justin Fields was always considered a Russell Wilson Junior
let him learn behind him good or bad
they don't have to pick up his 5th year option they can renegotiate him to a 2-3 year extension at backup money with play incentives
Wilson wanted a player option. that was before they traded Kenny Pickett
maybe they can redo the contract with a player option of an additional year that the Broncos will still be paying

 

[stillwright]

Does Pickett have a brother? Are you it?

Look, I would have preferred they have given Pickett a chance. I always felt he was just a guy that was gonna take a bit, like most QBs do. I also think he was put in a bad situation with the OC. Elmer Fudd may have drawn up a better offense. But at the end of the day, he folded. I never would have thought he'd do that.

Lastly, more and more this is a year to year league. You could think you have it all set up, a couple of injuries hit and poof! With the preponderance of 14 year old heads each team tends to have (they all do), can you keep them focused from year to year? Give Andy Reid credit. What he is doing is very impressive in keeping that team together. And he has 14 year olds. Kelce and Mahomes having their little pissy fits on the sidelines. So my point is, who does really know? You may be right, the Steelers blow up. But Wilson could find the fountain of youth, they get hot at the right time, avoid injuries, stay focused and go places we never expected.

Pickett just as much could have turned on in your hypothetical scenerio. Or not. Difference is we used a number 1 on him and had 2 years left on his contract.

All that said I am not a Pickett fan. I just would have rather gone with Pickett than Wilsin or Fields. I would rather have gone with Mason to be honest.

I would have just liked to see what Pickett could/couldn't have done in these next 2 years than the past 2.

 

[stillwright]

You seem to be upset about it. Since you are, it sure as hell isn't a far leap to think you believed them on some level. I said earlier in this thread that I'll believe their lies with a grain of salt, but more because it seems a lot more fun to me than to be doom and gloom. But I am too damn old to be upset when they are proven to be lies, if they are.

As for the second part, I illustrated the point with the ridiculous. I know you are not for that. No one would be. But don't expect truth.

Nothing on this board upsets me. I have real life that goes on.

As far as believing the FO....nope. I believe all but nothing anymore from them.

 

[Litos]

We gutted our entire QB room and bring in two guys on one year contracts......just so we will possibly be in the same position again next off season. We won't get rid of a HC who hasn't done jack **** for 10 plus years in the name of franchise stability but we gut our entire qb room from last year ....because our 2nd year 1st round draft pick got upset from the Wilson signing.

If all this clearly made us better I might be on board with it all...perhaps. I can't see how anyone can say we are. We probably at best do what we have the last few years. Winning record. Possible playoff berth. One and done ...with an embarrassing playoff loss......again.


Maybe we win our division and go deep in the playoffs...possibly winning the SB. I guess anything is possible.

I'm seriously glad a brat like KP is no longer here, 2 fkng years in to the league and he thinks he deserves **** given to him just because. So happy he isn't here for a long term contract

 

[Litos]

Fields will never see the field. Then his option year is $25 mill. Next season both will be gone.

Don't be surprised if/when Kahn gives him a team friendly extension that he will happily sign

 

[steelcan58]

Tampon fest…lol

I used to be an operations manager for a major feminine care company …
I used to be in the middle of a real life tampon fest everyday for 12 years !

I can help with some of you who are experiencing heavy flows over Kahn’s moves by recommending a tampon type for you! LOL

Although I'm not an expert, I'm guessing they don't make a big enough tampon for some of the posters on here.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

I'm seriously glad a brat like KP is no longer here, 2 fkng years in to the league and he thinks he deserves **** given to him just because. So happy he isn't here for a long term contract

I defended his candy *** for two years. I feel like an *** now for him to be such ******* dissapointment. He had the talent but he couldn't overcome the mental aspect. He got a **** deal with Canada ruining him but he had a chance to overcome it this year and wouldn't do it. **** him.

 

[diver]

Nothing on this board upsets me. I have real life that goes on.

As far as believing the FO....nope. I believe all but nothing anymore from them.

Me too.

As per the 2nd point, did you ever believe them? In the book "Three Bricks Shy of a Load," I can't remember who it is but they were talking about Myron Cope. The guy overheard a conversation Noll and Cope were having. Anyway, the guy said Myron Cope as some sort of inside information guy was dead to him after hearing that conversation. Coaches all tell you what they want, and won't tell you what they don't. They will put whatever spin on it they think will make their position look better. They really are politicians in a way.

Now I, like I'm sure you do too, like the way the Steelers operated a lot better in those days than as opposed to today. It felt more honest. Whether it was or not is anyone's guess.

 

[ianv2012]

Stillwrong is ready to take over decision making in the Pittsburgh Steelers FO. From the couch to the director's chair of the world's premier sports franchise. Please come back and visit once every 5 years to let us know how you're doing sir

Are you ok? Maybe go lie down, take a chill pill bro

 

[SteelerFan448]

NFL teams rarely develop anymore.. college doesnt either... its all systems.. the NFL needed a minor league system 20 years ago...

I mean we barely developed landry jones from the worse drafted camp QB id ever seen to a meh backup... and AV at LT... but its rare and the coaches have to have a ton of patience with the player... which they dont...

Given it's harder to keep younger players when they develop, I sort of get why. I miss the old days when round 3 and later had RFA after year 3.

Back to Fields...I admittedly don't know enough about schemes and the such, but is there any chance the Steelers could design an offense as Baltimore did around Lamar? Fields is arguably a top-3 athlete at QB in terms of all-around athletic ability. Utilize a strong running game and Fields legs as the foundation of the offense, which will require a couple of more pieces to the OL in the draft. That strong ground game in Baltimore has just left average wide receivers running wide open providing easy throws for Jackson over the years. I won't deny that Jackson is a better player than Fields, but it seems like a way to maximize his potential and help develop Fields into an above average quarterback.

 

[stillwright]

I'm seriously glad a brat like KP is no longer here, 2 fkng years in to the league and he thinks he deserves **** given to him just because. So happy he isn't here for a long term contract

If everything being told is gospel truth then I would agree.

 

[MT~Forged]

Sorry but if you think the Bears and Steelers situation has been even close, you need a reality check. It hasn't been what we expect but it hasn't been close to the Bears.

Apparently you didn’t read the whole post, because the points made back up my statement.

 

[MT~Forged]

Great trade not giving up much in draft capital. I'm just not sure what happens after this year. Isn't his 5th year option due now? Then, do they sign him long term without having him actually play in games - similar to what we would have had to do with KP. Wilson is sounding like playing for a few more years. I think it's a good move that now hinges on how they can work out keeping him here to see if he can actually help us without being on the hook for a ton of dead money if he ends up sucking.

Actually, KP is only going into his 3rd year. They would have had a full year before needing to make a decision. Oh well, now the Eagles have that year.

 

[madinsomniac]

Given it's harder to keep younger players when they develop, I sort of get why. I miss the old days when round 3 and later had RFA after year 3.

Back to Fields...I admittedly don't know enough about schemes and the such, but is there any chance the Steelers could design an offense as Baltimore did around Lamar? Fields is arguably a top-3 athlete at QB in terms of all-around athletic ability. Utilize a strong running game and Fields legs as the foundation of the offense, which will require a couple of more pieces to the OL in the draft. That strong ground game in Baltimore has just left average wide receivers running wide open providing easy throws for Jackson over the years. I won't deny that Jackson is a better player than Fields, but it seems like a way to maximize his potential and help develop Fields into an above average quarterback.

Fields can run, but he isnt Lamar Jackson level... he actually made his bones as a pocket passer more than a runner in college.. ... and its pocket passing he needs to improve on if he wants to be an NFL starter for much longer...

 

[MT~Forged]

Definitely NOT what I am used to.
I have always cherished doing it the homegrown way but i am old school.

I agree with the homegrown way, as look I am old school too. Unfortunately we do not have the coaching staff anymore to develop the future players. Shades is on record admitting that he is not going to “coach up” players, they better be able to perform at top level on their own.

If they want to continue to ride with Tomlin, AR2 needs to hire a new Asst HC and staff, charge him with strictly development of everyone who is not a starter. Create a “Farm Team” within the roster. This coach has the ability to move players from PS to active, demote actives, release underachieving players, and rob potential players from other teams.

Tomlin and his staff work with the 25 players sent up to them. Since he doesn’t “coach up” players, get someone who will/can.

As far as the Draft, I still feel that C is the biggest priority. With the vacancy left by “Drops”, I have now moved OT down a notch and moved WR up. Mims was my hope, but now he would be a luxury pick in 1 or 2. Maybe you get an OT or ILB or CB with 3 & 4

 

[MT~Forged]

If KP would have been willing to “sack up” and taken the “reset” opportunity he was given, I would rather have kept him instead of trading for Fields. Not because I think KP is a better QB at this point, but because you had 2 more years left on his contract, vs both QB’s being on a one year deal. I said it before, IF Fields signs an extension for B/U money with incentives, then I am onboard with the trade. I don’t think Wilson will be worth the money it will take to keep him at 37, if he plays well enough to consider keeping him.

 

[SteelerFan448]

Fields can run, but he isnt Lamar Jackson level... he actually made his bones as a pocket passer more than a runner in college.. ... and its pocket passing he needs to improve on if he wants to be an NFL starter for much longer...

I mean he did have over 1,100 yards in his second year and over 600 yards rushing last year. He's still pretty good in that area.

 

[BLITZ]

Steeler fans. Pissed if they make moves. Pissed if they dont. Split right down the middle