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Terror attack in Brussels

The Muslim communities that sprung up in places like Brussels and Paris (and elsewhere) have been there for decades. Do I think it's a good thing that they haven't assimilated? No, I don't think that's a good thing.

The current - past half year or so - wave of migrants are 85-90% war refugees fleeing places like Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. I know, as I saw them first hand camping out at the train station three minutes from my place back in July. These were mostly women and children, with a smattering of young men. So without a doubt there is a refugee crisis in Europe, with no end in sight. Surely there are radicals/terrorists that may try to sneak in amongst the refugees. But not really, as most of those radicalized Muslims have EU passports and simply fly in and out of European airports at will. At this stage, most migration has been halted, with hordes of people now accumulating in Turkey and Greece, unable to make their way north. It is a crisis, it needs to be dealt with and I don't think the EU has figured out how to handle it.

What you seem to be implying, that the current "mass emigration of Muslims to Europe" is the reason Muslim fanatics/terrorists have taken over neighborhoods throughout Europe. That is innacurate. Why that was allowed to happen is a question for Euro politicians in the 70's & 80's to answer, as it predates the current migration/refugee crisis.

A larger question is why aren't those EU citizens flying to and from places like Syria, Turkey, Iraq under more scrutiny? Why isn't there a wait & hold process for these individuals at the airports? The Paris terrorists made their way in and out of Brussels airport multiple times (same airport where the bombs went off today). Why aren't these people being questioned? It blows my mind really. Much more of a relevent question than the the percieved danger posed by thousands of migrant families trying to reach Europe.

Same goes for the radical Imans preaching at mosques throughout Europe. And their followers. These are the communities from which these radical muslims come from. They're not just now trying to get into Europe, they've been here for decades. It is an utter failure of intelligence and police work, that these 'cells' have not been uncovered and dismantled.
not to bust on your ***, but if the popo were to question every mosque that had some ******** preaching hate speak, the LEO would be under more scrutiny and the left would be screaming even more. what you said is precisely what a lot of people WANT to have happen, but because of ******** who dont understand that in some instances profiling (such as what you did) is a means to an end. reacting instead of acting is not keeping anyone safe.
 
Maybe you could put a muslim patch on their clothes to identify them:

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And I'm sure that some Germans had 'reasons' for suspecting some Jews of being enemies of state - so they decided to round them all up and start exterminating them regardless of any guilt.


You thought my post said round up Muslims and burn them in ovens. You are a moron to even compare the two. What part do you people not get about stopping the flow of Muslims into our country or we will end up just like most of Europe with pockets of these animals wanting to take us back into the dark ages. I'm sure women and gays here in the US would just love that.
 
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I have never acted as if radical Islam is not a problem. Check anything I've ever posted here, I've always been opposed to Islamist terrorism and want them destroyed.



That sounds great, but that's not what Trump is preaching. He is specifically lumping together all Muslims, not just focusing on the radicals. I'm 100% for going after radical muslims in every which way. Unfortunately, that's not what Trump is calling for.

Explain to me how we tell the difference between radical muslims and the peace loving muslims. Until you can do that, you gotta lock them all out. Period.
 
That doesn't mean you leave the door open for any Muslims to enter our country freely.
What do you mean by 'freely'? We have visa and immigration laws. We're not allowing anyone in 'freely'. Have you read the processing refugees go through? Do you think if you show up at the airport from a foreign country, you can just waltz right in? Where do you guys come up with this stuff? Stop listening to Donald Trump, it's melting your mind.

Why It Takes Two Years for Syrian Refugees to Enter the U.S.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...to-apply-to-enter-the-united-states.html?_r=0

Syrians must pass many layers of security checks before being admitted to the United States, a process that can take two years or longer. In most cases, the refugees do not enter the United States until the very end. They are also subject to an additional layer of checks beyond those for refugees of other nationalities; after the Paris attacks, the House voted to further tighten screening procedures. Since 2011, the United States has admitted fewer than 2,000 Syrian refugees.

1. Registration with the United Nations.

2. Interview with the United Nations.

3. Refugee status granted by the United Nations.

4. Referral for resettlement in the United States.

The United Nations decides if the person fits the definition of a refugee and whether to refer the person to a country for resettlement. Only the most vulnerable are referred, accounting for fewer than 1 percent of refugees worldwide. Some people spend years waiting in refugee camps.

5. Interview with State Department contractors.

6. First background check.

7. Higher-level background check for some.

8. Another background check.

The refugee’s name is run through law enforcement and intelligence databases for terrorist or criminal history. Some go through a higher-level clearance before they can continue. A third background check was introduced in 2008 for Iraqis but has since been expanded to all refugees ages 14 to 65.

9. First fingerprint screening; photo taken.

10. Second fingerprint screening.

11. Third fingerprint screening.

The refugee’s fingerprints are screened against F.B.I. and Homeland Security databases, which contain watch list information and past immigration encounters, including if the refugee previously applied for a visa at a United States embassy. Fingerprints are also checked against those collected by the Defense Department during operations in Iraq.

12. Case reviewed at United States immigration headquarters.

13. Some cases referred for additional review.

Syrian applicants must undergo these two additional steps. Each is reviewed by a United States Citizenship and Immigration Services refugee specialist. Cases with “national security indicators” are given to the Homeland Security Department’s fraud detection unit.

14. Extensive, in-person interview with Homeland Security officer.

Most of the interviews with Syrians have been done in Jordan and Turkey.

15. Homeland Security approval is required.

If the House bill becomes law, the director of the F.B.I., the Homeland Security secretary and the director of national intelligence would be required to confirm that the applicant poses no threat.

16. Screening for contagious diseases.

17. Cultural orientation class.

18. Matched with an American resettlement agency.

19. Multi-agency security check before leaving for the United States.

Because of the long amount of time between the initial screening and departure, officials conduct a final check before the refugee leaves for the United States.

20. Final security check at an American airport.
 
Tibs,

Many areas in the middle east have become worse under Obama. Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, and Lybia to name a few.

If you think it is wise to free up billions to a nation that chants death to American, threatens us and our allies verbally and burns or flags, while giving them 20+ days before an inspection and do nothing when they test long range missiles ( A violation ) , then I've got a stadium on three rivers that I'd like to sell you.

Iran funds terrorism and fights proxy wars. Even Obama's secretary of state said we are now funding terrorism, and he's right.

At what point does political interest usurp the welafre of the USA and its allies?

Ronald Reagan sold weapons directly to Iran. He did this to fund the Contras in Nicaragua after Congress wouldn't approve the funding for them. He sold weapons directly to our sworn enemy in order to secretly provide money that Congress wouldn't approve, which I believe is unconstitutional. If Obama did that you guys would be losing your ******* minds, but Reagan was a republican and, more importantly, white.... so it's all good.
 
Ronald Reagan sold weapons directly to Iran. He did this to fund the Contras in Nicaragua after Congress wouldn't approve the funding for them. He sold weapons directly to our sworn enemy in order to secretly provide money that Congress wouldn't approve, which I believe is unconstitutional. If Obama did that you guys would be losing your ******* minds, but Reagan was a republican and, more importantly, white.... so it's all good.

******, Hillary is a white WOMAN and I want her in jail.
 
Can liberals argue anything on its merit without searching for anything that resembles equivalence?
 
In defense of Tibs....Dark haired girls are just fine with me


 
Can liberals argue anything on its merit without searching for anything that resembles equivalence?
For example? Sorry if facts and accurate information gets in the way of false pretenses.
 
We have a live one...

AN OBAMA JUNIOR VARSITY TEAM CHEERLEADER!


yeah - open borders is the solution - Europe is a ******* cesspool from unrestrained Muslim immigration and YOU want to bring that here?

Ummmm where did I say anything about Obama? Thought my post stands quite well on its own. Just because you can view the irony of an event, doesn't show anything but your ability to observe and reason.
 
Obama's weak *** is what let ISIS grow - read a paper
 
For example? Sorry if facts and accurate information gets in the way of false pretenses.
Yeah, I think you mean false premises there, but anyway, just on the previous page of this thread we see the Bible/koran and Iran Contra/Obama Iran deal equivalence things going. You all can't argue without it.
 
These are (most likely) the *******, wearing a glove on only one hand.

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Nice pick-up

Detonator in the gloved left hand?

You trained in Somalia too?
 
See?

Tibs and I understand each other - we get along

I say we should have loaded up 1000 B-52's with napalm and blasted these **** into rubble from the beginning, when they were driving around in Toyota's in the open


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As a proud Toyota Tundra owner, this pains me too


I'm sure Tibs agrees
 
I say we should have loaded up 1000 B-52's with napalm and blasted these **** into rubble from the beginning, when they were driving around in Toyota's in the open. I'm sure Tibs agrees
Absolutely, if those targets are identifiable, blow 'em to smithereens.
 
I agree. On that same note, let's round up all caucasian, Christian Americans until we can weed out which ones are KKK members ready to murder, lunatic far-righters on the verge of shooting up a school or a church, or crazed fanatics ready to blow up an abortion clinic. Otherwise, how can you go about going after the radical ones? Ask them for a show of hands?

Good idea... And when it became known that there was a percentage ... albeit a small one but a percentage nonetheless ... of Catholic priests sexually abusing young children, every parent should have immediately yanked their kids out of Catholic school and immediately stopped going to church because hey.... how can you tell which ones are the monsters and which ones aren't... Its just common sense.
 
I understand Budapest also has a large blonde population now - I approve
You have no idea... there's a reason I've been out here as long as I have. It ain't the weather. ;)
 
You my post said round up Muslims and burn them in ovens. You are a moron to even compare the two. What part do you people not get about stopping the flow of Muslims into our country or we will end up just like most of Europe with pockets of these animals wanting to take us back into the dark ages. I'm sure women and gays here in the US would just love that.

You are a moron to even suggest I'm a moron.
And what do you mean by 'you people'? Stop being so obtuse as to think you're the only sane poster who has ever made a comment on a message board and that you even understand the argument.

There is a clear method for dealing with those in the middle east, but it must be a concerted effort from a multinational group to make it work.

How does it benefit the US to block refugees from coming in from overseas if Mexico and Canada allow it to happen and they can then just steal across the border? Do you really think a giant wall across our southern border is even feasible -- functionally and financially? Sure, we can screen the refugees before they come into the country, but what do we do about the countless Muslims that are already here and are falling for the ISIS propaganda available on the internet? Is your plan then to round them all up and put them in internment camps like we did with the Japanese during WWII?
 
I hope we kill all these zealot *************.

I am white. I want Rick Scott in jail...and many other whites. Anybody running for president probably deserves jail time...but, yes, kill all the zealots.
 
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