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The Climate Change Thread

In her quote she states there are "collateral benefits" to phony climate science. "Collateral damage" is what it really is.
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In her quote she states there are "collateral benefits" to phony climate science. "Collateral damage" is what it really is.

This stuff never makes mainstream news. It reaffirms for me it's all bullshit, just like all of the other fictional end of the world crisis type **** over the last 50+ years has been.
 
Other quotes never to have made the mainstream....

. “I have long understood that climate change is not only an environmental issue – it is a humanitarian, economic, health, and justice issue as well.”
Frances Beinecke
Frances G. Beinecke (born August 2, 1949) is an environmental activist. She served as the former president of the Natural Resources Defense Council from 2006 to 2015.



Probably the most damning...

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10. Jerome Foster II spoke about the need for environmental justice.​

“Climate crisis and social injustice are inextricably linked,” said the youngest-ever White House advisor for environmental justice. “Our economic system must work not only for the few, but for all nations and all people, especially communities that are impacted first and worst by the climate crisis."
 
Now here's a quote so profound, enlightening and thought provoking...

I've got 2 grandkids and a third on the way, and now I so much worry for them...

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What a fool believes.
 
We have a new climate czar. John Podesta takes over for John Kerry. Will he have the same 20 some people as staff? Those people have never been named. Why the secrecy for 3 years?
 
Now here's a quote so profound, enlightening and thought provoking...

I've got 2 grandkids and a third on the way, and now I so much worry for them...

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What a fool believes.

Forgot to note... "living IN an unhealthy planet" he says, as opposed to ON.

Yes living below the surface could be unhealthy. But will be an improvement.
Our kids will be forced to go underground. The surface will become uninhabitable.
Those who remain surface dwellers will die young.
 


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Ever notice that the climate alarmists never tell China to do jack ****?
 
They are afraid of China. China will shut them up.
 
Maybe the warmer winters and no snow are due to all the microwave radiation getting beamed all over the place. If the massive increase over the past 20 years is proven, would the environmentalists and public in general give up their phones?
 
Nobody will give up their phones. They want thunderfog to charge their phones.
 
They are afraid of China. China will shut them up.

They're in bed with China. They get rich through China. They are selling us out to China. China has ALL of the dirt on all of them because of it.

So yeah they're afraid of China because they could easily destroy them through information release.
 
Joe won't close the border because he already made deals with the cartels and central American governments. Can't stop the cash flow.
 
Interesting free movie entitled Climate: The Movie. Approaches the issue on the basis of science, history, policy, politics, and effects. I wish the producers had spent a bit more time on the MASSIVE CO2 output from China and the absolute quiescence of the West on that issue, as well as the rank hypocrisy of leading "climate" alarmists. Al Gore, John Kerry and Leo Dicaprio care so much about climate that they ... well, nothing. They still live in mansions, fly on private planes, own yachts, and spew more CO2 than 100 families of four.

 
Weird. We've been told natural disasters and the climate have been getting worse.

The Truth about Climate-Related Mortality

Disaster mortality seems to be a perfectly useful metric for understanding climate change—when the numbers show millions of people dying in a hypothetical future.


In his recent State of the Union address, President Joe Biden ditched the term “climate change.”

Apparently, the phrase isn’t scary enough. Instead, as the New York Times noted, Biden employed a different alliterative phrase: climate crisis.

That the Earth’s climate is changing and human activity influences these changes to some degree or another is something that few today deny. But the claim that these changes represent a crisis to humanity deserves scrutiny.

It’s an undisputed fact that climate-related deaths have plummeted over the last century.

The International Disaster Database is a dataset comprised of more than 26,000 mass disasters since 1900, and it is maintained by the Centre for Research on the Epidemiology of Disasters at the University of Louvain in Brussels. It shows climate-related deaths have fallen 99.5% since 1920.

It’s important to understand that even those who believe that climate change is a human crisis concede this fact, as Reuters did in this 2023 fact check.

This is no doubt true, although other unnamed factors almost certainly played a role, such as improvements in medicine and other lifesaving technologies. But that’s the whole point: Adverse consequences of climate disasters can be mitigated with human ingenuity.

Those who argue climate change is a “crisis” have difficulty acknowledging this fact. Many would rather call climate crisis skeptics “deniers” or accuse them of spreading misinformation.

Indeed, the very Reuters article that admits climate-related deaths have fallen precipitously states that this is “not evidence against a climate ‘emergency’” and alleges such figures are “misleading.”

“Disaster mortality is not a useful metric for quantifying climate change,” the fact check states.

There are two problems with this claim.

First, saying that disaster mortality is an unuseful metric for understanding climate change is an opinion, not a fact. Having opinions is perfectly fine, but Reuters is conducting a fact check. (And pointing out that climate-related deaths have plummeted over the last century is a fact, not an opinion.)

Second, those who believe climate change is a crisis have little problem using disaster mortality figures when the numbers tell their story.

The World Economic Forum projects that “by 2050 climate change may cause an additional 14.5 million deaths.” The New York Times has no problem reporting on a World Health Organization study that projected “250,000 deaths annually from 2030 to 2050” because of climate change. Ditto with Forbes, which shared figures from a Nature Communications study that claimed climate change would result in 83 million excess deaths.

And then there’s Reuters.

Disaster mortality seems to be a perfectly useful metric for understanding climate change, at least when the numbers show millions of people dying. That’s really the biggest difference here — well, that and the fact that the International Disaster Database is using actual deaths, not imaginary deaths in a hypothetical future dreamed up by modelers.

One can only wonder if this is why so many people are suffering from crisis fatigue. As if the world was somehow suffering from a shortage of genuine crises, doomsayers are creating imaginary ones that haven’t materialized yet but could in some not-too-distant future if we don’t do what we’re told.

None of this is to say we shouldn’t be responsible stewards of the environment; we should. But we should also recognize the basic economic truth that all policies come with trade-offs, and those trade-offs have the potential to be far more damaging to humanity than even the darkest visions conjured by climate change doomsayers.

Many, including Biden, like to imagine a world without fossil fuels. But it’s important to realize what that world would look like. Electricity grids would go black. Food deliveries would slow, then stop. Then, food production.

“Even if I could walk to the grocery store, there’d be no food there,” Samantha Gross, director of the energy security and climate initiative at the Brookings Institution, told the Washington Post in an article imagining a world without fossil fuels.

Fortunately, this vision, too, is just imaginary. But history shows just how fast nightmares can become reality when the state is given unchecked control over an economy.

And this is what makes Biden’s climate crisis rhetoric so dangerous.

Crises, both real and imagined, have been the greatest enemy of freedom in modern history. In his book Crisis and Leviathan, the historian Robert Higgs showed how they have been the pretext used time and again by those in power to trample individual rights, violate constitutions, and tighten their grip on power.

Once one understands the political potential of crises and the appeal of climate change scaremongering to those who support planned economic systems, it’s not difficult to see why we’re experiencing a “climate crisis,” even when climate-related deaths are at historic lows (see below).

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Global warming, uhh, "climate change," and Covid. Completely unrelated, right? Until you realize both are inextricably linked to:
  • Forced reduction of economic activity
  • Greater government power
  • Greater government spending
  • More restriction of free speech
  • Predicted disasters that did not happen but nonetheless ...
  • No reduction of the vitriol by the proponents directed at doubters
  • Vilification of those who question the official doctrine, including accusations of mass murder
Wow, it's almost as if - follow me here - the supposed crisis is just an excuse for a power grab.
 
What's mother nature got to do, got to do with it?
 
Global warming, uhh, "climate change," and Covid. Completely unrelated, right? Until you realize both are inextricably linked to:
  • Forced reduction of economic activity
  • Greater government power
  • Greater government spending
  • More restriction of free speech
  • Predicted disasters that did not happen but nonetheless ...
  • No reduction of the vitriol by the proponents directed at doubters
  • Vilification of those who question the official doctrine, including accusations of mass murder
Wow, it's almost as if - follow me here - the supposed crisis is just an excuse for a power grab.
You left out lining the bank accounts of the vested interests pushing the climate change agenda. Some of the loudest voices in support of climate change are either Invested in companies that benefit or their donors are.
 
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