This is police brutality

[Stewey]

George Floyd didn't die at the hands of a cop after all!

He had COVID-19 ! So it means he died from it instead. Isn't that the way it's being done?

https://local12.com/news/nation-wor...Z68ZWyJOdPkFjE4nuKaQZWOJmohOPclmg3LeZnctDBEXs

 

[Steelworth]

Can't play that video but watched it live and my impression was he was saying it's a great day for George Floyd because of the job numbers. Hard to know exactly what he meant because of the way he rambles and jumps from one topic to another.

But does it matter? Is there any context in which today was a great great day for George Floyd?

Here are his words verbatim:

"Equal justice under the law must mean every American receives equal treatment in every encounter with law enforcement regardless of race, color, gender or creed," Trump said. "They have to receive fair treatment from law enforcement."

"We all saw what happened last week. We can't let that happen," he continued, referencing Floyd's death.

"Hopefully George is looking down right now and saying this is a great thing that's happening for our country. This is a great day for him, it's a great day for everybody. This is a great day for everybody. This is a great, great day in terms of equality."

How did you get that had anything to do with job numbers? And did he sign some sort of new legislation regarding equal treatment under the law from police officers? He signed something there at the Rose Garden but didn't take any questions and I can't find anything anywhere, only that he's taking a victory lap on the economy and was using George Floyd's name about that.

From the video I posted and the remarks I found transcribed from it, that's entirely untrue.

 

[oneforthebus]

Here are his words verbatim:

"Equal justice under the law must mean every American receives equal treatment in every encounter with law enforcement regardless of race, color, gender or creed," Trump said. "They have to receive fair treatment from law enforcement."

"We all saw what happened last week. We can't let that happen," he continued, referencing Floyd's death.

"Hopefully George is looking down right now and saying this is a great thing that's happening for our country. This is a great day for him, it's a great day for everybody. This is a great day for everybody. This is a great, great day in terms of equality."

How did you get that had anything to do with job numbers? And did he sign some sort of new legislation regarding equal treatment under the law from police officers? He signed something there at the Rose Garden but didn't take any questions and I can't find anything anywhere, only that he's taking a victory lap on the economy and was using George Floyd's name about that.

From the video I posted and the remarks I found transcribed from it, that's entirely untrue.

So what was he saying is a great day for George Floyd? Violent protests all over the country? What is a great day for equality? He was earlier talking about the idea that great jobs numbers were the answer to racial inequality.

Again, what made yesterday a great day for George Floyd?

 

[oneforthebus]

Honestly I can't even believe we're debating this. This guy can say pretty much anything and no matter how idiotic some people will defend it.

George Floyd is dead. This is not a great day for him, not a great day for his family. By any interpretation it's an incredibly insensitive remark, and an incredibly stupid one given what's going on in the country. So much gaslighting going on, people trying to explain his ignorance away and try to claim what he said isn't what he meant. It's ridiculous and sad.

 

[Steelworth]

So what was he saying is a great day for George Floyd? Violent protests all over the country? What is a great day for equality? He was earlier talking about the idea that great jobs numbers were the answer to racial inequality.

Again, what made yesterday a great day for George Floyd?

I don't know what or if anything made yesterday a great day for George Floyd. But that's not what I'm talking about whatsoever, I'm talking about the lying and distortion of Trump's comments that George would have been happy because of job numbers. It's just completely untrue. I heard you talk about it and didn't question you on it and I thought it was absolutely disgusting as well. But then I looked at the video and said "wait a minute, that's not at all what he was talking about".

If Trump signed some sort of new legislation for more equality and protection under the law for people of all colors, then perhaps that's a step in the right direction. I don't know and I don't know if it was a great day for George Floyd. That's not the ******* point though, you and everybody else were clamoring on that Trump was using George Floyd in his job numbers victory lap.

Again, Not. *******. True.

 

[oneforthebus]

I don't know what or if anything made yesterday a great day for George Floyd. But that's not what I'm talking about whatsoever, I'm talking about the lying and distortion of Trump's comments that George would have been happy because of job numbers. It's just completely untrue. I heard you talk about it and didn't question you on it and I thought it was absolutely disgusting as well. But then I looked at the video and said "wait a minute, that's not at all what he was talking about".

If Trump signed some sort of new legislation for more equality and protection under the law for people of all colors, then perhaps that's a step in the right direction. I don't know and I don't know if it was a great day for George Floyd. That's not the ******* point though, you and everybody else were clamoring on that Trump was using George Floyd in his job numbers victory lap.

Again, Not. *******. True.

Because he was. The entire speech was about how great he’s doing and how great these jobs numbers are. There is nothing else anyone can point to that would make this a great day for George Floyd. But again you nitpick because you don’t want to believe it.

It’s a weird cult like thing the way people take the moronic things Trump says and twist themselves into pretzels to try to justify them. Not me, sorry.

 

[oneforthebus]

I've been fair, I've called out the media numerous times when they've been unfair to Trump. I'm just fair both ways and some of you can't handle that.

 

[Steelworth]

Because he was. The entire speech was about how great he’s doing and how great these jobs numbers are. There is nothing else anyone can point to that would make this a great day for George Floyd. But again you nitpick because you don’t want to believe it.

It’s a weird cult like thing the way people take the moronic things Trump says and twist themselves into pretzels to try to justify them. Not me, sorry.

I don't nitpick anything with Trump because I want to believe it. You quoted it earlier today, I just asked for some context, then I did my own search and saw the same thing you did, and had the same queasy feeling. But I made the mistake of not watching the video and trusting the MSM. If I were a cult-like Trump supporter I wouldn't have believed you from the beginning and went on a rant about it. I know he says a lot of incredibly stupid and self-absorbed **** that benefits absolutely no one, but in this particular case people are crucifying him for apparently using George Floyd during his little economic victory lap. To my eye and ear that's not the case.

Perhaps I'll have to see if I can find the entire video another time (if I can get through it, I hardly ever watch Trump pressers because I can't get through them if you could believe that), but from what I've seen with my own eyes as of now I think this was taken out of context. Nothing cult-like about that. And let's just move on. Nitpicking this guy's remarks on this or that isn't going to change anybody's opinion it looks like and it's not going to change me voting for socialism/communism, or this guy.

 

[Stoney]

Yeah, you and the other white middle aged male ardent Trump supporters don't care. Unfortunately he needs more than you to win. He's basically ****** himself with blacks, Hispanics, suburban women, the elderly. Approval rating in the 30s now.

Just hope he doesn't take the Senate down with him.

Many people wouldn't consider me to be white. But you can call me whatever you want I really don't care.

As for whether or not he wins, or what happens with the Senate, we'll just have to wait and see. But you go ahead and vote for Biden and everything that comes along with him, or write your own name on the ballot if that is all you can stomach. We only get to chose the from the options presented to us, and live with the consequences. And when I think about the consequences versus how he speaks......, I'll tell you again: I don't have a single f*ck to give about how he speaks.

 

[oneforthebus]

I don't nitpick anything with Trump because I want to believe it. You quoted it earlier today, I just asked for some context, then I did my own search and saw the same thing you did, and had the same queasy feeling. But I made the mistake of not watching the video and trusting the MSM. If I were a cult-like Trump supporter I wouldn't have believed you from the beginning and went on a rant about it. I know he says a lot of incredibly stupid and self-absorbed **** that benefits absolutely no one, but in this particular case people are crucifying him for apparently using George Floyd during his little economic victory lap. To my eye and ear that's not the case.

Perhaps I'll have to see if I can find the entire video another time (if I can get through it, I hardly ever watch Trump pressers because I can't get through them if you could believe that), but from what I've seen with my own eyes as of now I think this was taken out of context. Nothing cult-like about that. And let's just move on. Nitpicking this guy's remarks on this or that isn't going to change anybody's opinion it looks like and it's not going to change me voting for socialism/communism, or this guy.

Yeah well I don't want to vote for Biden either, my fear is if someone doesn't shut this idiot up he's gonna lose and take the entire Congress down with him.

The clip you showed is accurate, but in the context of the entire speech which is the usual rambling self-aggrandizing bullshit it seemed clear to me that he was saying this was a great day for George Floyd because the economy's turning around.

In any case, like I said, I'm not sure in what context it would be a great day for someone who's dead as a result of excessive police force. And if you were an African American outraged by this murder I don't think you be sitting around parsing exactly what he was referring to and giving him the benefit of the doubt when he said it's a great day for George Floyd. It was an idiotic thing to say no matter what the context or what was meant by it and I expect you'll be seeing it over and over again in some campaign commercials in the not too distant future.

 

[oneforthebus]

Many people wouldn't consider me to be white. But you can call me whatever you want I really don't care.

As for whether or not he wins, or what happens with the Senate, we'll just have to wait and see. But you go ahead and vote for Biden and everything that comes along with him, or write your own name on the ballot if that is all you can stomach. We only get to chose the from the options presented to us, and live with the consequences. And when I think about the consequences versus how he speaks......, I'll tell you again: I don't have a single f*ck to give about how he speaks.

I don;t want to vote for Biden, I want someone to vote for who's not a ******* idiot. But it appears I'm not gonna get that. So it will be creepy idiot vs. creepy idiot this year, as opposed to creepy idiot vs. corrupt evil criminal last time around. Yay.

 

[Steelworth]

It was an idiotic thing to say no matter what the context or what was meant by it and I expect you'll be seeing it over and over again in some campaign commercials in the not too distant future.

You may want to pump the brakes there. The Washington Post already retracted (from ultra-conservative Mediaite):

Washington Post Retracts Claim President Trump Called Jobs Report ‘Great’ for George Floyd
RUDY TAKALA JUN 5, 2020 5:09 PM

The Washington Post on Friday issued a correction on a story claiming President Donald Trump called employment data a “great day” for George Floyd, the Minneapolis man who died in May while under police custody.

“A previous version of this story incorrectly said that the president called the jobs report a ‘great day’ for George Floyd, the black man killed by white police in Minneapolis. In fact, the president was referring to growing calls for equal justice under the law,” the Post wrote.

The correction was appended to a story about Trump’s remarks at a White House press conference earlier in the day. Trump stated at the conference:

Equal justice under the law must mean that every American receives equal treatment in every encounter with law enforcement regardless of race, color, gender, or creed. They have to receive fair treatment from law enforcement. They have to receive it. We all saw what happened last week. We can’t let that happen. Hopefully, George is looking down right now and saying this is a great thing happening for our country. This is a great day for him, it’s a great day for everybody. This is a great day for everybody. This is a great, great day.

Some media outlets suggested Trump was referencing May economic data, including the Washington Post and Associated Press. Quoting the AP’s description of events, former Vice President Joe Biden called the president’s comments “despicable.”

Link https://www.mediaite.com/news/washington-post-retracts-claim-president-called-jobs-report-great-for-george-floyd/

 

[Steelworth]

And the left is doing a fantastic job of taking those suburban moms you mentioned away from Trump:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No harsh tone, overstatement or contested allegations here. Not in my NY Times Opinion Section. <a href="https://t.co/ilkM7KSZF6">pic.twitter.com/ilkM7KSZF6</a></p>— Michael Brendan Dougherty (@michaelbd) <a href="https://twitter.com/michaelbd/status/1269091530477879297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[oneforthebus]

You may want to pump the brakes there. The Washington Post already retracted (from ultra-conservative Mediaite):

Washington Post Retracts Claim President Trump Called Jobs Report ‘Great’ for George Floyd
RUDY TAKALA JUN 5, 2020 5:09 PM

The Washington Post on Friday issued a correction on a story claiming President Donald Trump called employment data a “great day” for George Floyd, the Minneapolis man who died in May while under police custody.

“A previous version of this story incorrectly said that the president called the jobs report a ‘great day’ for George Floyd, the black man killed by white police in Minneapolis. In fact, the president was referring to growing calls for equal justice under the law,” the Post wrote.

The correction was appended to a story about Trump’s remarks at a White House press conference earlier in the day. Trump stated at the conference:

Equal justice under the law must mean that every American receives equal treatment in every encounter with law enforcement regardless of race, color, gender, or creed. They have to receive fair treatment from law enforcement. They have to receive it. We all saw what happened last week. We can’t let that happen. Hopefully, George is looking down right now and saying this is a great thing happening for our country. This is a great day for him, it’s a great day for everybody. This is a great day for everybody. This is a great, great day.

Some media outlets suggested Trump was referencing May economic data, including the Washington Post and Associated Press. Quoting the AP’s description of events, former Vice President Joe Biden called the president’s comments “despicable.”

Link https://www.mediaite.com/news/washington-post-retracts-claim-president-called-jobs-report-great-for-george-floyd/

I have not claimed he overtly said the jobs report was great day for George Floyd. I said watching the entire speech that was the impression I was left with. This wasn't something I gleaned from the media, it was something that struck me in real time as incredibly insensitive.

 

[oneforthebus]

And the left is doing a fantastic job of taking those suburban moms you mentioned away from Trump:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No harsh tone, overstatement or contested allegations here. Not in my NY Times Opinion Section. <a href="https://t.co/ilkM7KSZF6">pic.twitter.com/ilkM7KSZF6</a></p>— Michael Brendan Dougherty (@michaelbd) <a href="https://twitter.com/michaelbd/status/1269091530477879297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Except they really aren't because the last thing anyone wants to be perceived as is a "Karen".

Listen, all I can tell you is I have seen my once predominately Republican PA suburb go from choosing Mitt Romney to choosing Hillary to basically flipping almost all of the local seats to Dem. And several surrounding ones too.

It's no matter now. These are our choices. I hope Trump can turn it around but I have very little confidence in him.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Love Shelby Steele
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/VW0c94cXk9">https://t.co/VW0c94cXk9</a></p>— John Johnson (@bdiskreet) <a href="https://twitter.com/bdiskreet/status/1269239007973724161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[SojournerSteel]

Except they really aren't because the last thing anyone wants to be perceived as is a "Karen".

Listen, all I can tell you is I have seen my once predominately Republican PA suburb go from choosing Mitt Romney to choosing Hillary to basically flipping almost all of the local seats to Dem. And several surrounding ones too.

It's no matter now. These are our choices. I hope Trump can turn it around but I have very little confidence in him.

I could care less about the emotions and condemnation that would come from many for this comment, but female suffrage, on balance, has been a disaster for this country. By nature, they are more susceptible to snakes in the grass and the social pressures of groupthink. They are more subject to emotional manipulation by demagogues and the overriding need for safety and security over liberty.

White women voting in droves for Obama -- compared to white males -- gave him 2 terms.

 

[oneforthebus]

I could care less about the emotions and condemnation that would come from many for this comment, but female suffrage, on balance, has been a disaster for this country. By nature, they are more susceptible to snakes in the grass and the social pressures of groupthink. They are more subject to emotional manipulation by demagogues and the overriding need for safety and security over liberty.

White women voting in droves for Obama -- compared to white males -- gave him 2 terms.

Ha ha ha. All you're gonna get from me is laughter. Maybe you need to take this back to your incel board.

 

[SojournerSteel]

Ha ha ha. All you're gonna get from me is laughter. Maybe you need to take this back to your incel board.

Well, we know there's often great truth in humor -- which is the only way the court jesters can get away with saying it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-ecbGNxEHM

 

[IndySteel]

Except they really aren't because the last thing anyone wants to be perceived as is a "Karen".

Listen, all I can tell you is I have seen my once predominately Republican PA suburb go from choosing Mitt Romney to choosing Hillary to basically flipping almost all of the local seats to Dem. And several surrounding ones too.

It's no matter now. These are our choices. I hope Trump can turn it around but I have very little confidence in him.

Thanks for the clarification, Karen.

 

[Stewey]

So what was he saying is a great day for George Floyd? Violent protests all over the country? What is a great day for equality? He was earlier talking about the idea that great jobs numbers were the answer to racial inequality.

Again, what made yesterday a great day for George Floyd?

Yeah, you and the other white middle aged male ardent Trump supporters don't care. Unfortunately he needs more than you to win. He's basically ****** himself with blacks, Hispanics, suburban women, the elderly. Approval rating in the 30s now.

Just hope he doesn't take the Senate down with him.

You're insanely sensitive. If there's anything to care about it's that Trump's inability to articulate well. He speech is coarse, elementary and he can sound like a buffoon. We know this to be his Achilles heel. His was a bad segue from George Floyd to speaking on the economy, but there's no ******* way he was saying a recovering economy made it a great day for George Floyd.
It's the way he always been and it's the way he's always gonna be so what the **** do you want us to say? After almost 4 years of this you'd think by now your panties would have ceased getting knotted up over something he said.

Again:

"Equal justice under the law must mean every American receives equal treatment in every encounter with law enforcement regardless of race, color, gender or creed," Trump said. "They have to receive fair treatment from law enforcement."

"We all saw what happened last week. We can't let that happen," he continued, referencing Floyd's death.

"Hopefully George is looking down right now and saying this is a great thing that's happening for our country. This is a great day for him, it's a great day for everybody. This is a great day for everybody. This is a great, great day in terms of equality."

 

[Yinzerlyn]

I could care less about the emotions and condemnation that would come from many for this comment, but female suffrage, on balance, has been a disaster for this country. By nature, they are more susceptible to snakes in the grass and the social pressures of groupthink. They are more subject to emotional manipulation by demagogues and the overriding need for safety and security over liberty.

White women voting in droves for Obama -- compared to white males -- gave him 2 terms.

Wow. Chauvinism is alive and well. Thanks for the stereotype.

 

[DBS1970]

Wow. Chauvinism is alive and well. Thanks for the stereotype.

The growth of government in the 20th century corresponds to the ratification of the 19th amendment. The size of government has grown exponentially since women gained the right to vote. Women have care based morality rather than justice based morality so they tend to vote for politicians and policies that claim to take care of people. The research proving this is out there if you care to look. Personally I am against universal suffrage for men or women. I think to vote you should have to be a net taxpayer. The worst way to run a country is to give those with no skin in the game a say in how it is run. We should not be directly electing senators either but that’s a discussion for another time.

 

[bermudasteel]

Question not directed at me, but the simple fact of the matter is this:

The greatest predictor for poverty ...
The greatest predictor for criminal behavior ...
The greatest predictor for violent behavior ...
The greatest predictor for academic failure ...
The greatest predictor for dropping out of high school ...
The greatest predictor for juvenile murderers ...
The greatest predictor for juvenile rapists ...
The greatest predictor for sexual promiscuity of teenage females ...
The greatest predictor for teenage pregnancy is ...

The lack of a father in the home.

https://external-content.duckduckgo...y.com/media/13d2jHlSlxklVe/200.gif&f=1&nofb=1

https://digitalcommons.olivet.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1078&context=edd_diss

These endless protests, and demands, and burnings, and lootings are a giant ******* waste of time. Until the African-American community decides that ENOUGH with families without a father, ENOUGH of the males abandoning their children, ENOUGH of having others take care of and raise their children, the problem will not get better.

Change whatever the **** you want about police procedures, and department policies, and hiring minorities, and blah-dee-*******-blah, until black fathers stay with the mothers and help raise and support the kids, this **** WILL. NOT. GET. BETTER.

Do more research. There's a reason why the African American community, as a whole, has suffered.

Like I said in the other thread times like these show me why it's best to stay off the site...

Consider me on vacation.

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[DBS1970]

Do more research. There's a reason why the African American community, as a whole, has suffered.

Like I said in the other thread times like these show me why it's best to stay off the site...

Consider me on vacation.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Steeler Nation mobile app

The rate of bastardy in the black community is 70%. It is a myth that black husbands and fathers are being spirited away to prison on made up charges. Fatherless in Black America is a function of welfare dependence caused by Democrat policy. After the LBJ administration started the Great Society Welfare program "social workers" went to black neighborhoods and told black women how much they could get monthly if they did not have a husband in the home.It was all a ruse to create a dependent voting block.