HOU, maybe, is the only team that is close to a PO team that could entertain a trade, if they think they can get to the SB in the next 3-4 years. The other teams mentioned are looking for their next young QB to ride into the sunset with.
Time to try the trade
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HOU, maybe, is the only team that is close to a PO team that could entertain a trade, if they think they can get to the SB in the next 3-4 years. The other teams mentioned are looking for their next young QB to ride into the sunset with.
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You're forgetting Bell's receiving skills too in the passing offense. Think the ball would bounce his head like it did with Tate?
Again I ask, Brady, Peyton, Flacco, Rogers, Romo, most if not all of these guys will come up short this year. Do you trade them too when they lose?
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If one is willing to entertain the extreme hypothetical of trading Roethlisberger, Houston is the only place that makes sense.
Their 1st, 2nd and Mallet and Clowney, perhaps?
With that being said, Arizona could work, I suppose, if Palmer was part of deal.
Roethlisberger for Palmer, their 2nd and Patrick Peterson.
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This sounds like we are playing Madden with these trades.
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Pretty much, which is why a Roethlisberger trade isn't going to happen, unless one's content to unload him for a couple 1st's and hope for the best.
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I think the periods 1982-1991 and 1996-2003 weren't long enough for some Steeler fans to have learned something.
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The thing about Arizona though is that their First Round pick will be fairly close to the Steelers...so the Steeler would have two picks around #21 to #24 in 2015 for example...and any future Arizona First Round picks the next few years with Ben as their QB would also be playoff picks 20-30.
Maybe Whisenhunt makes them an offer they can't refuse?
Maybe Whisenhunt makes them an offer they can't refuse?
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As many said, even if they were blown away with an offer, does anyone trust Tomlin/Colbert to not only use those high draft picks wisely, but also to find and develop a new quarterback? I would have zero faith in that.
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I don't advocate trading Ben but the only way I would even consider a trade, and this is not likely to be offered but if the Cards offered Patrick Peterson, their 1'st and 2'nd picks and Carson Palmer. Also contingent on if they reach the super bowl in 2015 we get their 1'st round pick the following season. I know, its not going to happen but that's what it would take for me to be interested.
CB position at least one of them solved. Address the other in F/A or draft. QB problem as long as Carson stays healthy is more than adequate to lead this team for a few years until you draft your future starter. With two #1's and two #2's you can fix the other CB position, get a solid safety, A solid defensive lineman and an offensive tackle,LT or RT, they both need upgraded.
If Justin Houston goes on the market then I do what it takes to get him in here.
CB position at least one of them solved. Address the other in F/A or draft. QB problem as long as Carson stays healthy is more than adequate to lead this team for a few years until you draft your future starter. With two #1's and two #2's you can fix the other CB position, get a solid safety, A solid defensive lineman and an offensive tackle,LT or RT, they both need upgraded.
If Justin Houston goes on the market then I do what it takes to get him in here.
Trading Ben is beyond stupid. If we did, my guess is we won't really get that much for him. He is heading into his final contract that he may not finish. What do you get for him? One 1st rounder? You still need a QB. This team had no chance to win 11 games this year without Ben. If Bell would have been out, they very well could have won 11. Bell was voted the MVP of the team but Ben truly was the team MVP.
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Exactly. Hey guys, maybe the Steelers can be lucky enough to grab somebody like Ryan Lindley. It would be nothing but clear sailing then.
I would make that trade in a second. Lindley and throw in a 6th rounder- I jump on that like a fat chick on a no-carb diet would with a pizza.
Yeah there were 21 other guys playing in those games, and to be more specific those first few years Mikey and Ben rode Cowhers D to those wins. Ben is Ben. He is not elite, he is not anywhere near Bradshaw, whoever is saying that is obviously a 20 something who has no clue about the past. I'm a fan since 76 I've watched the game evolve and I've watched all the greats.
It's the same with the Brady is "arguably the greatest QB ever". Who says this crap? Two groups of people: NFL talking heads who are paid to hype the game, and young people who probably don't even know who Joe Montana is. Brady is not half of what Montana was. Like someone else mentioned; the Madden form the game has taken makes QB's look better than they are.
Ben is Ben.
it all depends on the return. Anyone, no matter how great, has a price. if some cruddy team offered 4 #1's and one of them was the top overall pick when an expected franchise QB was available, then yes, you do it. But they did have the best offense they ever had this year, so outside of that you sort of hold onto him and hope for the D to improve substantially next year
You can win it all with journeyman QB's. Want proof?
sure with a rock solid team around them... im not sure this team is as rock solid especially on D... the Ravens of two years ago had a better D than we did this year, and that sucked pretty bad too...
I am an old guy too. I remember Bradshaw well. He has never gotten credit for his abilities. However, Ben and Bradshaw are very similar in that they each had/have an issue that haunts them. Bradshaw was like Favre in that he could never totally shake free of the interceptions. Ben holds the ball. I guess what I am saying is that they are both great, both had issues. Bradshaw had the greatest collection of talent around him ever, perhaps. Ben plays in an era in which Elmer Fudd might throw for 300 a few weeks of the year. I think it evens out in some ways. Maybe Ben wins just as many if surrounded by the talent of the 70s. Who the hell would stop Bradshaw if he was playing today?
pretty much
I would trade my GF before I trade Ben
What does she look like?
Ben is going nowhere.......................except maybe for a drink with his agent after he signs his new $100 M contract.
And, why did they win? They played great defense. And, even Flacco played his best in the playoffs that year. He was lights out. If we had an average D yesterday, we win the game. Our D is terrible.
Trading Ben isn't gonna happen. He's good enough to get his name in the record books and he has done a lot of good stuff for this team but realistically he's not the kind of QB that can carry a team without talent. Teams that need a franchise QB will not be interested in a retread over 30, especially with a $10-12M a yr contract.
He's the type of athlete that will fade real fast because of a bruised up body but also a big fat wallet to tend to family needs helps too.
I look to see him lower his cap numbers next contract and we will need to draft his replacement soon.
He's the type of athlete that will fade real fast because of a bruised up body but also a big fat wallet to tend to family needs helps too.
I look to see him lower his cap numbers next contract and we will need to draft his replacement soon.
if we trade anybody, I want JJ Watt in return.