Exactly. The media was on it right away debunking it all and and twisting it as story Republican's are using as a reason why they lost the elections. It was at that moment I knew it was true.
Ukraine, as we know it today, would not even exist had Trump still been in office. Probably same for NATO.
Really? Come on dude. There is literally nothing that backs up that assertion. Nothing. Asking NATO countries to pay what they pledged is hardly out of bounds. If NATO wasn't running a bunch of welfare states they could afford their defense. And why does it fall on us to defend Ukraine? Why? Having seen several years of it, I'm sick of war and America's involvement in it. We haven't fought a war since WWII that made any damn sense. Ukraine is no different. America needs to get out of the war business unless it is for defense.
allow me to respond for you, Tibs. thanks.
QBAG.
Trump, like the *** hole Orban in Hungary - and all of the wretched MAGA ecosystem - is pushing for a "peace deal" essentially a cessation of the war, letting the two sides "work things out" diplomatically. Problem is, Putin is deep inside eastern Ukraine, holds all of Crimea, and any type of peace talks with current battle lines would be a major victory for him and Russia. Also, Ukraine would never do that, why would they, they're fighting for their homeland, freedom and sovereignty. Don't kid yourself into thinking the Western coalition under Biden would have happened under Trump. You may not like it, but democracy, nation-state borders, providing aid and support to sovereign nations defending themselves against a unilateral, unprovoked military invasion...still means something in this world. Thankfully, all of Europe and all of NATO stands firmly with Ukraine. Yellow-bellied lightweights like Trump and Orban notwithstanding, who'd rather lick Putin's boots than ensure a peaceful, democratic, prosperous Europe, now and in the future. It may not seem that way to you, but we're on the right side of history here, the ramifications will be felt for generations.
The Western coalition where the US is pouring billions of dollars and military equipment into Ukraine, and generally everyone else is saying, you go Joe, and little else.
I know you have difficulty seeing past your most recent outrage, but… wars, as awful as they are, often change things for the better long term. They have consequences. That region, NATO, and the world in general may very well be better off after the war.
Oh.
Financial aid (commitments) pledged by:
FFS. When it started, who thought that Ukraine would still be standing strong, hosting Biden a year later?
Bullshit. Absolute crock of ****. You libtards love the commies who are destroying America. You were even wanting ***** Kamala to be President. You are a lying Hungarian **** up. A S S T A R D.
god damn if you don't self-contradict on an astounding basis.
Gee, I wonder why he calls you “extremist”?
wow. so American taxpayers matched almost all of Europe.
we? you don't live here anymore and are in some twisted goddamned fantasy libland of what is actually going on in the country you've not resided for more than half your life.
YOU are the only one I have communications with, so we'll address this on a case by case basis.
Because you commie libtards think that anyone who is pro-America is an extremist.
awww. booty get chapped? piss off with your "divergent view" which you refuse to even discuss the merits.
I knew that sooner or later he would be a big pusssssy about it.
