Trump - Make America Great Again!

[Superman]

I beg your pardon. I do not have a 'maniacal obsession with silencing the other side'. I have a maniacal obsession with bringing truth and facts into a heavily skewered conversation on a far-right political board. I have a maniacal obsession with making sure we see both sides of the coin.


Ahhhhh, that's so cute.

you say you want truth, but state that it's Trump SUPPORTERS inciting violence, whereas video at his rallies clearly, inarguably shows differently.
up is down and down is up

 

[Steel Vanguard]

Was fascinated by the attacks in my home town. East San Jose, where I grew up, is the second largest barrio in California behind East Los Angeles.

Was also, totally unsurprised. These are the same vatos who keep getting into fights at Raiders/49ers games to the point where the NFL had to ban preseason games between the two teams.

Trump lesson learned: don't **** with East San Jo.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I beg your pardon. I do not have a 'maniacal obsession with silencing the other side'. I have a maniacal obsession with bringing truth and facts into a heavily skewered conversation on a far-right political board. I have a maniacal obsession with making sure we see both sides of the coin.

Yes this is plainly evident by your corroboration of the facts with regards to Clinton in the other thread, or in any thread. Your persistent acknowledgment of her crimes and lies is refreshing.

 

[oneforthebus]

Was fascinated by the attacks in my home town. East San Jose, where I grew up, is the second largest barrio in California behind East Los Angeles.

Was also, totally unsurprised. These are the same vatos who keep getting into fights at Raiders/49ers games to the point where the NFL had to ban preseason games between the two teams.

Trump lesson learned: don't **** with East San Jo.

You say that like a violence and gang infested neighborhood is a good thing. Or like Donald Trump cares that his protesters are violent thugs. You do realize that's a good thing for him right?

 

[SCSteeler4life]

LOL! This replaces "I love the poorly educated" as my favorite Trump quote.

It's like stuff my grandfather used to say when he was senile.

Should he have said my nigga ?

 

[Tibs]

Your persistent acknowledgment of her crimes and lies is refreshing.

I'll acknowedge her crimes the moment she's convicted of any. Thankfully FoxNews, Breitbart and the right-wing nutsos on this board don't represent the judicial process of the country. At least not yet anyway. She's far from an ideal candidate for any office. If she's all there's left for the Dems to run against Trumpy, I'll reluctantly back her in a general election. I do have significant issues with her person and her politics. But again, I'd vote for a #2 pencil for president before I vote for Trump.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

LOL! This replaces "I love the poorly educated" as my favorite Trump quote.

It's like stuff my grandfather used to say when he was senile.

I know, right?? LOL. I was cracking up. Totally reminds me of (speaking of both sides of the coin) that time...

- Hillary Clinton said "“I love this quote. It’s from Mahatma Gandhi. He ran a gas station down in St. Louis for a couple of years. Mr. Gandhi, do you still go to the gas station? A lot of wisdom comes out of that gas station”"

- Hillary said ""They are often the kinds of kids that are called 'super-predators,' " Clinton said in 1996, at the height of anxiety during her husband's administration about high rates of crime and violence. "No conscience, no empathy, we can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel." - referring to African Americans.

- Hillary said "During a campaign speech Thursday in South Carolina that addressed the progressive notion of “white privilege,” the former secretary of state claimed that even “open-minded” white people still get nervous when approached by a young black man wearing a hoodie."

- Hillary and Mayor DeBlasio had the following funny on stage. Cracked me up! - "“I just have to say thanks for the endorsement, Bill. Took you long enough,” she said to laughter. “Sorry Hillary, I was running on C.P. time,” de Blasio responded to a mixture of chuckles and gasps. CPT is known as “colored people time” the stereotype that African Americans generally tell as a reason for being late to an event or a traditionally black event not beginning on time."

- Hillary mentioned she carries "hot sauce" in her purse in order to garner the black vote.

- Hillary said to Paul Fray, “You f*cking Jew *******.”

I tell you, those politicians...always bein' racist and crackin' us up.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I'll acknowedge her crimes the moment she's convicted of any. Thankfully FoxNews, Breitbart and the right-wing nutsos on this board don't represent the judicial process of the country. At least not yet anyway. She's far from an ideal candidate for any office. If she's all there's left for the Dems to run against Trumpy, I'll reluctantly back her in a general election. I do have significant issues with her person and her politics. But again, I'd vote for a #2 pencil for president before I vote for Trump.

Yes, but it is ok for you to vilify the right without conviction or substance.

We see it Tibs. You claim to be objective. You're far from it.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

You say that like a violence and gang infested neighborhood is a good thing. Or like Donald Trump cares that his protesters are violent thugs. You do realize that's a good thing for him right?

On the one hand: violence is not protest. Michael Medved is a total douche, but he's right on this point. Protesting with violence or attacking Trump supporters is counterproductive and violates the spirit of the 1st Amendment. MLK got it right, BLM got it wrong.

On the other hand: some racist ******* with a "build a wall" shirt who wants to deport these kids' Abuelas and Tias getting smashed in his **** does not make me feel much sympathy. You dish out race hate and it comes back to bite you, that's just karma. Don't want to get ****** up in the hood? Try not being a racist douche bag.

 

[SCSteeler4life]

On the one hand: violence is not protest. Michael Medved is a total douche, but he's right on this point. Protesting with violence or attacking Trump supporters is counterproductive and violates the spirit of the 1st Amendment. MLK got it right, BLM got it wrong.

On the other hand: some racist ******* with a "build a wall" shirt who wants to deport these kids' Abuelas and Tias getting smashed in his **** does not make me feel much sympathy. You dish out race hate and it comes back to bite you, that's just karma. Don't want to get ****** up in the hood? Try not being a racist douche bag.

Deporting illegals is the law just saying.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

Deporting illegals is the law just saying.

I've come to the realization that none of you actually believes that.

It's an excuse to be racist. Just like gang violence, or Black rapists (as though there are not white ones), or Islamic terrorism.

The idiots who say "it's about the law" when it comes to deporting Mexicans are just as transparent as the idiots who say "only whites can be racist because racism is about power". Both are just excuses to be racist douche bags.

 

[Booted]

On the other hand: some racist ******* with a "build a wall" shirt who wants to deport these kids' Abuelas and Tias getting smashed in his **** does not make me feel much sympathy. You dish out race hate and it comes back to bite you, that's just karma. Don't want to get ****** up in the hood? Try not being a racist douche bag.

I know sometimes it'shard to keep your emotions in check and not get violent. However, in America we are allowed to wear just about anything we want. We are allowed to express any opinion we want. Nobody has to like it or agree with it but, That's our right. What is against the law is to assault law abiding people. Is a girl asking to be raped for wearing revealing clothes? Don't want to be raped in the hood? Try not being a slutty *****. That's your logic, SV.

 

[oneforthebus]

On the one hand: violence is not protest. Michael Medved is a total douche, but he's right on this point. Protesting with violence or attacking Trump supporters is counterproductive and violates the spirit of the 1st Amendment. MLK got it right, BLM got it wrong.

On the other hand: some racist ******* with a "build a wall" shirt who wants to deport these kids' Abuelas and Tias getting smashed in his **** does not make me feel much sympathy. You dish out race hate and it comes back to bite you, that's just karma. Don't want to get ****** up in the hood? Try not being a racist douche bag.

One, we can argue all day about whether violent protest is right or wrong. The question is whether it's effective. Having Hispanic gang members violently attacking peaceful Trump rally attendees does absolutely nothing but engender support for everything Trump stands for. To the point where I have to wonder if Trump himself actually hired these people to go out and attack his supporters to prove his point. Yet you puff your chest out and say "Don't mess with East LA" falling right into his trap. Yeah, if East LA decided elections in this country you might have something to celebrate. As it stands this does nothing but help Trump nationally. Trump comes off as an idiot a lot but this makes me think maybe he's a genius. He's using race and class to divide and conquer and you are helping him.

Two, if you continue to insist that supporting the enforcement of immigration laws makes someone a racist, you will continue to be in the minority in this country. Something Hillary would be wise to figure out. She could lose the election on this issue alone.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

I know sometimes it'shard to keep your emotions in check and not get violent. However, in America we are allowed to wear just about anything we want. We are allowed to express any opinion we want. Nobody has to like it or agree with it but, That's our right. What is against the law is to assault law abiding people. Is a girl asking to be raped for wearing revealing clothes? Don't want to be raped in the hood? Try not being a slutty *****. That's your logic, SV.

We're talking about two different things here. A Klansman is wearing his robes and rallying with his friends at the town square. Some BLM types show up and start trouble. Is it morally correct for the BLMs to use violence? Absolutely not. But that is a separate question from "do I feel sorry for the Klansman who got beat up?" And the answer is no. No I don't. Same with the "build a wall" racist ********. You dish out race hate, I won't condone you being beaten, but I won't feel sorry for you either. All the vatos involved should be arrested and prosecuted. All the racist Wall ******** who talked mad **** and got beat down should be mocked and laughed at.

One, we can argue all day about whether violent protest is right or wrong. The question is whether it's effective. Having Hispanic gang members violently attacking peaceful Trump rally attendees does absolutely nothing but engender support for everything Trump stands for. To the point where I have to wonder if Trump himself actually hired these people to go out and attack his supporters to prove his point. Yet you puff your chest out and say "Don't mess with East LA" falling right into his trap. Yeah, if East LA decided elections in this country you might have something to celebrate. As it stands this does nothing but help Trump nationally. Trump comes off as an idiot a lot but this makes me think maybe he's a genius. He's using race and class to divide and conquer and you are helping him.

Two, if you continue to insist that supporting the enforcement of immigration laws makes someone a racist, you will continue to be in the minority in this country. Something Hillary would be wise to figure out. She could lose the election on this issue alone.

First point: I don't think it's effective at all. I think beating these people up is like using suicide bombs to protest Israeli Apartheid. You alienate people on the fence that you need as allies.

Second point: I been around Mexicans all my life. I've heard every argument against them that there is. Bottom line: people are anti-Mexican because they're anti-Mexican. Not because they really think Mexicans are ruining America. They just don't like wetbacks and hide behind immigration laws to make their hate sound legitimate.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

That's who we are, and if the racist ******** don't like it, they can pack their **** and move to Russia. Just because there are a lot of racist ********, that don't make the racist ******** right.

 

[Buster]

I've come to the realization that none of you actually believes that.

It's an excuse to be racist. Just like gang violence, or Black rapists (as though there are not white ones), or Islamic terrorism.

The idiots who say "it's about the law" when it comes to deporting Mexicans are just as transparent as the idiots who say "only whites can be racist because racism is about power". Both are just excuses to be racist douche bags.

Please explain to me why we have processes in place to come to this country legally if we do not deny those who do not follow these processes.

 

[Booted]

We're talking about two different things here. A Klansman is wearing his robes and rallying with his friends at the town square. Some BLM types show up and start trouble. Is it morally correct for the BLMs to use violence? Absolutely not. But that is a separate question from "do I feel sorry for the Klansman who got beat up?" And the answer is no. No I don't. Same with the "build a wall" racist ********. You dish out race hate, I won't condone you being beaten, but I won't feel sorry for you either. All the vatos involved should be arrested and prosecuted. All the racist Wall ******** who talked mad **** and got beat down should be mocked and laughed at.



First point: I don't think it's effective at all. I think beating these people up is like using suicide bombs to protest Israeli Apartheid. You alienate people on the fence that you need as allies.

Second point: I been around Mexicans all my life. I've heard every argument against them that there is. Bottom line: people are anti-Mexican because they're anti-Mexican. Not because they really think Mexicans are ruining America. They just don't like wetbacks and hide behind immigration laws to make their hate sound legitimate.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

That's who we are, and if the racist ******** don't like it, they can pack their **** and move to Russia. Just because there are a lot of racist ********, that don't make the racist ******** right.

you really shouldn't generalize so much. First off I don't hate Mexicans. I think the one who come legally are some of the best people we have. God fearing, hard working and family oriented. What we are against is Illeagal immigrants. The fact that you can't grasp this simple concept make all your arguments invalid. You stereotype just as much as the ones you criticize.

 

[Tibs]

Same with the "build a wall" racist ********. You dish out race hate, I won't condone you being beaten, but I won't feel sorry for you either. All the vatos involved should be arrested and prosecuted. All the racist Wall ******** who talked mad **** and got beat down should be mocked and laughed at

Agree with this 100%.

 

[Spike]

Here we go!

when Dems attack each other!



GO BERNIE!

hahahahahah

WAR!!!

Sanders: 'The Democratic National Convention will be a contested convention'

Washington (CNN)Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders on Saturday vowed to continue his fight for the Democratic nomination beyond the primary season, telling reporters at a news conference in Los Angeles that he plans to go after Hillary Clinton's superdelegates.

He vowed, "The Democratic National Convention will be a contested convention."

. http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/04/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-convention/index.html

 

[Troglodyte]

Not surprisingly, the Trump thread has been kept alive by the same types of angry people who are protesting Trump in public - Tibs, Trog, Vantard and the like. They have a maniacal obsession with silencing the other side. They tell you any opinion you have isn't worthy of being accepted and do so by turning your arguments into hate, racism and bigotry and ignorance.

Please provide ONE example where I accused someone of hate, racism, or bigotry. ONE.

I don't know if I've ever had a post much over 100 words or so. You routinely post 1,000+ word dissertations, spend God knows how long searching for articles, and I'm the angry one with a maniacal obsession? LOL!

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I've come to the realization that none of you actually believes that.

It's an excuse to be racist. Just like gang violence, or Black rapists (as though there are not white ones), or Islamic terrorism.

The idiots who say "it's about the law" when it comes to deporting Mexicans are just as transparent as the idiots who say "only whites can be racist because racism is about power". Both are just excuses to be racist douche bags.

We've come to the conclusion you and Tibs just jump to conclusions - without evidence or facts. From Tibs just a page ago - "I'll acknowedge her crimes the moment she's convicted of any."

But ya'll will throw out baseless accusations left and right without facts everywhere on this board.

You have no idea what I think and how I live Steel. We've been down this road before. I made a fool out of you with your True Colors dialogue. I likely do more for the black community - and you're black. I'm very charitable with my time and money and am very sympathetic to immigrants of any background.

But I have no sympathy for any illegal aliens. And it is possible for me to be all of those very things - charitable, sympathetic, and unsympathetic - based on the person and the situation.

It's you - long ago proven - who sees everything in life as racism. These are the shades you look at life through. No one will stop you from being the race baiter you perpetually are.

And I can go to bed tonight saying "Build that Wall" knowing full well what my honest intentions are - protect this nation's financial basis (what's left of it), slow down the drug trade, reduce crime, and encourage legal immigration - all in the name of loving and caring for America and protecting this great nation.

As I once asked Tibs, I bet you don't leave the doors to your place unlocked all the time and welcome any and everyone into your home to take what they want do you? So why leave our borders wide open, and do the same thing, because that IS what's happening.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Please provide ONE example where I accused someone of hate, racism, or bigotry. ONE.

I don't know if I've ever had a post much over 100 words or so. You routinely post 1,000+ word dissertations, spend God knows how long searching for articles, and I'm the angry one with a maniacal obsession? LOL!

I'm off to a game, otherwise I'd have spent some real time doing this.

In response to Zack of Steel, you accused him of being a racist:

To say its acceptable for a person of one race to do something but not a person of another race is absolutely racist.

Ebonics? Did I just travel back in time 20 years?

Can we move along now or do we have to hear you tell us how this racist accusation really isn't?

 

[Tibs]

But ya'll will through out baseless accusations left and right without facts everywhere on this board.

Pointing out the bigotry, racism and hatred of Trump's - and his supporters' - own words are not throwing out 'baseless accusations without facts'. Just the opposite.

 

[TDX27]

If Bernie wins CA, and if the Dems try to put Biden in for the nomination, the Bernie supporters will literally burn cities down. The national guard also better be in Cleveland because Soros will have a paid army of protestors there to purposely start riots and hurt people.

Amazing that the libtards and main stream media still try to blame the violence on Trump when it is all libtards causing the violence and most are being paid just like "occupy wall street".

 

[Troglodyte]

I'm off to a game, otherwise I'd have spent some real time doing this.

In response to Zack of Steel, you accused him of being a racist:

Can we move along now or do we have to hear you tell us how this racist accusation really isn't?

That is defining something that is racist - do you disagree with the definition?

To use a Timism, brace yourself this is gonna hurt.... "I specifically didn't say" Zack of Steel was racist. HA!

 

[Stewey]

Pointing out the bigotry, racism and hatred of Trump's - and his supporters' - own words are not throwing out 'baseless accusations without facts'. Just the opposite.

You've pointed nothing of the kind. The best you people have done thus far is formulate or make kneejerk assumptions based on petty remarks.

Furthermore, placing a moratorium on Muslim immigration just because we feel there are too many Muslims would be racist.
Placing a moratorium on Muslim immigration until a we can devise a better way of vetting them because Islamic extremism has become a threat to society is not racist.

Same applies to Mexicans. How do you people not see this?

We need a moratorium on ALL immigration..as in "I'm not racist, I hate everybody equally" right?

From the Boston Globe...should meet your approval because it's a liberal rag.

You've been lied to. This talks about immigrant criminals being set free rather than be deported. The numbers falsified.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...s-suggested/l0OpCWfTdCuTNLIAfxApAO/story.html