Trump - Make America Great Again!

[Buster]

Empty promises with zero substance.

Sounds like another guy I know who has been squatting in a big White House on Pennsylvania Ave. for seven years.

 

[deljzc]

Is what Trump is promising any better/worse than your boy Sanders?

What's he promising? Free everything! And the millionaires will pay for it! We'll make those big, bad drug companies lower their prices! Just because I say so as President. We'll make costs DISAPPEAR! We can pay for colleges out of some fund of imaginary money. Sanders has a money tree he's going to plant in the back of the white house so college is cheaper, drugs are cheaper, health care is cheaper and people will STILL want to work hard instead of just sitting on their ***** and going to college for eight years....

How the hell does anyone believe the **** Sanders pushes is beyond me.....

Talk about lunatics Tibs.... you're just as bad as the Trump crazies.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Bernie appeals to the lowest possible intellect levels, those that are awestruck by his daddy-figure bully shtick. Everything he says is bluster, irresponsibly throwing crazy ideas out there to see what sticks. Empty promises with zero substance.

See how easy that is, and see how easy it works? It fits. He appeals to that low intellect crowd - the crowd that can't work, refuses to work, or just wants to ride the coat tails of Americans who actually live the dream and work. The "I'm guaranteed equal social standing to YOU" crowd, the aspiring under-educated Socialists.

By the way, Bernie's on a roll eh? Did you see this gem?

http://www.chicksontheright.com/bernie-sanders-attempts-to-define-family-values-fails-miserably/

Have you heard? Mocking “family values” is the new, cool thing. Liberals don’t even attempt to understand it, but back in the day, no one had to explain it. Those values were commonplace. Today, we’re surrounded by perpetual offended harpies who consciously seek out controversy for the sake of controversy.

What comes to mind when you think of family values? Surely, it’s not an oppressive or terrible thing. It’s a set of wholesome traditions and norms that Americans have embraced for years on end.

Family values involves recognizing the importance of the nuclear family– having a strong father and mother figure. It’s cherishing our God-given gender roles, remaining loyal to our obligations, respecting our elders, taking responsibility for our actions, working hard, recognizing God’s role in our lives, avoiding sour behaviors and loving our country and neighbor.

Judeo-Christian values and traditional American values are one and the same. It’s not some super scary religious moral code. It’s simply recognizing the existence of absolute truth. When you acknowledge the existence of absolute truth, you recognize your responsibility of differentiating between right and wrong, good and evil. Not everything is permissible. You don’t have to be “religious” to embrace “family values.” (But if you reject the notion of absolute truth, like many progressives do, you can change your mind 1000 times and never be held accountable, because you have no definitive moral foundation to begin with.)

Anyway, Democratic socialist Bernie Sanders is certain he has the whole “family values” concept squared away. During a campaign rally in Iowa, Sanders told his supporters that “family values” is code for oppressing women.

Yes really.

“They love families, can’t stop talking about families,” Sanders told the crowd. “When Republicans talk about family values, what they are saying is no women in this room, in this state, in this country should have the right to control her own body.”

Based on what? He completely pulled that out of thin air.

Just goes to show how completely delusional lefties are. They have to make everything about abortion, which is pretty degrading, if you ask me. People like Sanders assume that I, as a woman, only care about one thing: Murdering the child in my womb. According to Sanders, a woman’s self-worth is directly tied to Planned Parenthood. He really believes that.

I know some people say Sanders is actually a nice guy, but I disagree. He’s a tool.

 

[Supersteeler]

Trump appeals to the lowest possible intellect levels, those that are awestruck by his daddy-figure bully shtick. Everything he says is bluster, irresponsibly throwing crazy ideas out there to see what sticks. Empty promises with zero substance. No surprise Indy is such a fanboy.

Tibs, you still aren't paying attention to what is in front of your face if you don't see more going on that that. I'm not going to sit here and trot out my level of education and degrees because that is ridiculous and pompous. I will try to make this very short and simple because I have explained it in long winded form before and it didn't make a dent.

I HATE Politicians....therefore Trump is more palatable to me.
I HATE the media.....therefore Trump is more palatable to me.
I HATE over zealous political correctness everywhere....therefore Trump is more palatable to me.
I HATE being made to feel like I am oppressing less fortunate people everywhere by simply living my life....therefore Trump is more palatable to me.

Keep thinking I am a redneck, inbred, non educated moron if that makes you feel better. But I guarantee that if you had a few beers and an honest discussion with me in real life, you would have nightmares later because I would shatter every one of your assumptions about me in about 5 minutes.

 

[Tibs]

How the hell does anyone believe the **** Sanders pushes is beyond me.....

I reccomend you read a bit more into Sanders, as you're just regurgitating the usual, tired talking points.

This is a good place to start > I support Bernie Sanders, and I’m not stupid or unrealistic http://codygough.com/2016/01/27/i-support-bernie-sanders-and-im-not-stupid-or-unrealistic/

Allow me to let you in on a little secret: I, like presumably most Americans who support Bernie Sanders, do not expect miracles.

What I do expect, by electing Bernie Sanders, is to have an honest president whom Americans can trust at all times to be completely sincere, and who will work as hard as he can to represent the interests of the American people. By electing Bernie Sanders, I expect that the leader of our country will actually represent me and not just major corporations who are cutting him big checks. And no, I don’t get the sense that Hillary Clinton possesses any of those qualities. Decidedly.

And you know what? Maybe the “political revolution” Bernie Sanders keeps talking about won’t happen. Maybe electing Bernie Sanders will put him in office for 4 years, nothing productive will happen, and once his term is over, we’ll be back to “politics as usual” and huge corporations like Comcast and pharmaceutical and insurance companies and huge financial institutions will go right back to doing whatever they want because hey, they run things and they have money, so who’s going to stop them, right?

But if Bernie Sanders is elected president, then maybe, just maybe, things will change. And that’s worth a vote. That’s worth trying.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

The man's got balls, ya gotta give him that.

 

[Tibs]

Keep thinking I am a redneck, inbred, non educated moron if that makes you feel better.

I don't think that about you, or most of the conservatives on here. My bad for generalizing on that end. I understand your frustrations have led you to support Trump, I just hope you also think through the negatives that would come with Trump in a position of power, both domestically and concerning foreign affairs.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

I reccomend you read a bit more into Sanders, as you're just regurgitating the usual, tired talking points.

This is a good place to start > I support Bernie Sanders, and I’m not stupid or unrealistic http://codygough.com/2016/01/27/i-support-bernie-sanders-and-im-not-stupid-or-unrealistic/

All due respect to the man who made the Daily Show work, and the Colbert Report happen, but Bernie is indeed a crazy pants loony bird. America might be ready for Scandanavian Socialism in 25 years or so, but we ain't there yet, as evidenced by Trumps surprising run in the polls.

A vote for Bernie is a vote for Trump.

 

[Tibs]

A vote for Bernie is a vote for Trump.

I would tend to agree with you, but I don't trust Hillary at this point, do you? Plus she's got plenty of skeletons in the closet. I just wish Bernie were 15-20 years younger, but he's not. It is what it is.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I reccomend you read a bit more into Sanders, as you're just regurgitating the usual, tired talking points.

This is a good place to start > I support Bernie Sanders, and I’m not stupid or unrealistic http://codygough.com/2016/01/27/i-support-bernie-sanders-and-im-not-stupid-or-unrealistic/

I read this garbage earlier today and was just waiting for it to be posted. I predicted you would. Bingo. Someone give me a gold star.

So you post an article, an OpEd if you will, written by Jon Stewart. Let me repeat, Jon Stewart. There are no facts in the article. He doesn't even bother to go about discussing how any of Bernie's enormous, Disney Land promises, can be paid for. He avoids completely Bernie's desire to move us to a Socialist nation.

There is absolutely zero substance in that opinion piece. And you want Del and others to read it and get "educated?"

That, my man, is ripe.

From Jon himself:

Allow me to let you in on a little secret: I, like presumably most Americans who support Bernie Sanders, do not expect miracles.

Actually Jon, the majority of his supporters are expecting miracles. They are expecting wealth redistribution, free education, and on and on and on. You, sir, are out of touch.

What I do expect, by electing Bernie Sanders, is to have an honest president whom Americans can trust at all times to be completely sincere, and who will work as hard as he can to represent the interests of the American people.

Where does one begin? Honest? This is the same Bernie Sanders that used taxpayer money to funnel income to his wife and daughter. Though I'll grant he's leagues ahead of Hillary in the honesty department.

We can trust him to be completely sincere? How do you take anyone sincere who believes it is a "right" for people to all have equal income, for everyone to get a free college education, as a start?

He will work to represent the interests of the American people? He wouldn't be representing my interests if he gets elected. My interests do not involve paying more taxes than the exorbitant amount I already do so those with less drive, less ambition or less capability can "get ahead." His interests, his platform, do not mirror mine. This is a wild generalization by Stewart that everyone's values will be advanced by Bernie. This is just a flat out lie.

By electing Bernie Sanders, I expect that the leader of our country will actually represent me

He may represent you. He would not be representing me and my interests.

and not just major corporations who are cutting him big checks.

You are sorely naive if you believe that Bernie Sanders will eschew lobbyists, their wealth and their power. Incredibly naive.

And you know what? Maybe the “political revolution” Bernie Sanders keeps talking about won’t happen.

No, but he may just cause a revolution should we be unfortunate enough to see him elected and see any of these programs come to fruition that bankrupt hard working Americans.

But if Bernie Sanders is elected president, then maybe, just maybe, things will change. And that’s worth a vote. That’s worth trying.

Jon, we heard this same horse **** when Obama was running, then re-elected. Remember Hope and Change? Look where that landed us. No thanks, we are done giving "chances" to unrealistic Liberals. It's time for a real change. One that involves us getting back to true, core American values.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

I would tend to agree with you, but I don't trust Hillary at this point, do you? Plus she's got plenty of skeletons in the closet. I just wish Bernie were 15-20 years younger, but he's not. It is what it is.

The only person who's politics I agree with enough to want them in the White House is Penn Gillette, and I don't think he's interested.

 

[Tibs]

Nothing to see here...

Here are the Republican candidates who lie the most
http://www.businessinsider.com/republican-presidential-candidate-politifact-lying-data-2015-12

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[IndySteel]

Talk about lunatics Tibs.... you're just as bad as the Trump crazies.

If you're going to throw stones then state your position. We already know you're a God-hating devil worshipper. What else?

 

[Tibs]

I HATE Politicians....therefore Trump is more palatable to me.
I HATE the media.....therefore Trump is more palatable to me.
I HATE over zealous political correctness everywhere....therefore Trump is more palatable to me.
I HATE being made to feel like I am oppressing less fortunate people everywhere by simply living my life....therefore Trump is more palatable to me.

This > https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/?fref=nf

I keep hearing that Bernie’s surge is being fueled by voters “angry about income inequality,” and Trump’s is fueled by voters “angry about immigration and terrorism.”

Wrong. Both are fueled by voters fed up with a political-economic system increasingly run by an oligarchy of corporate executives, Wall Street bankers, and billionaires – who have rigged it so they gain even more wealth and power, and leave almost everyone else behind.

One group of fed-up voters is turning toward a bigoted authoritarian strongman (himself a billionaire) who promises to wrest power away from this elite through his own incendiary personality. The other group of fed-up voters is turning toward a movement leader who seeks to wrest power away from this elite by mobilizing average Americans for a “political revolution.”

In other words, the alternatives being posed are either fascism or real democracy. And what happens in Iowa and New Hampshire over the next 9 days will give us clues about which way we’re headed – or whether the oligarchy remains in charge.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

The other group of fed-up voters is turning toward a movement leader who seeks to wrest power away from this elite by mobilizing average Americans for a “political revolution.”

The sad part, is you actually believe this statement to be accurate.

Bernie isn't looking to wrest power from the elite by mobilizing average Americans. That FREE college education comes from my tax dollars, not Pfizer. He's looking to redistribute wealth among the citizens. He's looking to tax us all more. He's stated this. He's not going to do anything to the capitalists and redistribute an ounce.

You're (and the poster) disillusioned.

 

[Tibs]

Tim, that's exactly opposite of what's in Bernie's proposals.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/

College for All: Sen. Sanders has proposed making public colleges and universities tuition-free and substantially reducing student debt, in a plan that would cost about $75 billion a year.

Paid for by imposing a tax on Wall Street speculators that would generate about $300 billion in revenue.

 

[Spike]

His kids run the business.

speaking of his kids

 

[Steel Vanguard]

The sad part, is you actually believe this statement to be accurate.

Bernie isn't looking to wrest power from the elite by mobilizing average Americans. That FREE college education comes from my tax dollars, not Pfizer. He's looking to redistribute wealth among the citizens. He's looking to tax us all more. He's stated this. He's not going to do anything to the capitalists and redistribute an ounce.

You're (and the poster) disillusioned.

Trump is looking to "wrest power from the elite"?

TRUMP IS THE ELITE

speaking of his kids

She's apparently made out of plastic now.

Looks like she got her face lift done by Mattel.

 

[Spike]

"Bernie Sanders plans to raise taxes by $13.6 trillion over the next decade"

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Tim, that's exactly opposite of what's in Bernie's proposals.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/

College for All: Sen. Sanders has proposed making public colleges and universities tuition-free and substantially reducing student debt, in a plan that would cost about $75 billion a year.

Paid for by imposing a tax on Wall Street speculators that would generate about $300 billion in revenue.

Not even close to being correct Tibs. It does come from taxpayers. This Wall Street angle is a ruse.

http://college.usatoday.com/2015/05...es-bill-to-make-4-year-colleges-tuition-free/

"Under the plan, the Federal Government would cover 67% — $47 billion dollars each year — of the costs.

States would be required to produce the remaining 33% of the costs, or 23 billion dollars."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...free-college-tuition-plan-20160129-story.html

 

[Tibs]

...Bernie is indeed a crazy pants loony bird. America might be ready for Scandanavian Socialism in 25 years or so...

Here is how I see it:

The last person to run on similar political beliefs won the election and saved America from the Great Depression. His name was Franklin D. Roosevelt (otherwise known as FDR) and his policies — via the New Deal — are part of why he is consistently rated as one of the greatest U.S. presidents ever, alongside Abraham Lincoln and George Washington.

And this:

Bernie and a majority of American voters share the same views on the most important issues facing our families, communities, country, and planet today, according to polling data. Here are just a few examples:

Bernie and 68 percent of Americans believe the super-wealthy pay too little in federal taxes.
Bernie and 85 percent of all business owners agree with closing all overseas tax loopholes.
Bernie and 68 percent of Americans think we should close tax loopholes for corporations who offshore jobs.
Bernie and 65 percent of Americans want to expand Social Security benefits.
Bernie and 3 out of 4 Americans, including Republicans, want Medicaid expanded.
Bernie and over half of Americans support a single-payer healthcare system.
Bernie and 65 percent of Americans support raising the minimum wage.
Bernie and 6 in 10 Americans, including half of Republicans, think employers should offer paid sick leave.
Bernie and 3 out of 4 Americans, including a majority of Republicans, say employees should be offered paid time off after childbirth.
Bernie and 64 percent of Americans want strict carbon limits on existing coal plants.
Bernie and 80 percent of Americans support expanded access to lower-cost student loans.
Bernie and 3 in 4 Americans support more spending on our nation’s infrastructure.
Bernie and 84 percent of Americans, including 90 percent of Democrats and 80 percent of Republicans, believe money has too much influence in U.S. politics.

That's whay I think it's wildly inaccurate to try to dimsiss him as some raging lunatic on the fringes. He's not. He's been entirely consistent in his views since the 70's. With Bernie, what you see is what you get.

http://feelthebern.org/who-is-bernie-sanders/

 

[Tibs]

Not even close to being correct Tibs. It does come from taxpayers. This Wall Street angle is a ruse.

For some reason you missed the very last paragraph in the Chicago Tribune article that you yourself posted.

The bill plans to cover these costs by initiating a Robin Hood Tax on Wall Street. A .5% speculation fee will be charged on investment houses, hedge funds, and other stock trades. Additionally, a .1% fee will be charged on bonds, and a .005% fee will be charged on derivatives.

 

[steel dino]

I cant get myself to get exited about the thought of Sanders being Commander in Chief...probably because I don't see that happening by any stretch of the imagination..

The man does have some ideas/recommendations that could be viable options of improvement for the country's eco/social state, albeit some of which, is a little too much on the socialism side of the scale for my liking...

He is an intelligent man, and I can see Sanders as an White House "advisor" type, but he does not have the "leadership" piece that I value in a president.

I am trying hard to get on the Rubio band wagon...but that opening is very hard to squeeze into right now..

 

[steel dino]

The man's got balls, ya gotta give him that.

I don't know about you men...

But those poses would make me WANT to be cross examined by her...

 

[Yinzerlyn]

I don't know if Trump will win. But what I do know is that he has lit a spark under the populace.....the populace who is sick and tired of the same old rhetoric. America is fed up with what is happening, and Trump has made it OK to talk about those issues. He's made it OK to NOT be PC.....something that the majority of America is, but is too afraid to be out in the open. I'm not a Trump supporterr (yet),
but I respect someone who does what he says and isn't afraid to back down. I would rather see someone like that in office than a spineless wimp who kowtows to everyone (the dude we have now).