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All due respect to the man who made the Daily Show work, and the Colbert Report happen, but Bernie is indeed a crazy pants loony bird. America might be ready for Scandanavian Socialism in 25 years or so, but we ain't there yet, as evidenced by Trumps surprising run in the polls.

A vote for Bernie is a vote for Trump.


Honestly I think you could replace Bernie with Trump and the statement would still hold true.
I really don't know how I will vote, and it's painful that these 3 are the choices to lead (?) our country.

Edit: this was supposed to be in responce to the Stewart quote. Damn eye aren't what they used to be.
 
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I don't know if Trump will win. But what I do know is that he has lit a spark under the populace.....the populace who is sick and tired of the same old rhetoric. America is fed up with what is happening, and Trump has made it OK to talk about those issues. He's made it OK to NOT be PC.....something that the majority of America is, but is too afraid to be out in the open. I'm not a Trump supporterr (yet),
but I respect someone who does what he says and isn't afraid to back down. I would rather see someone like that in office than a spineless wimp who kowtows to everyone (the dude we have now).

The things that make populist leaders popular are the same things that tend to make them poor executives when they reach public office.

Reagan was popular, but he was not a populist. He was a conservative. Clinton was popular, but he was not a populist. He was a pragmatist.

Ghadafi was a populist. Hugo Chaves was a populist. Castro was a populist. These men have great grand plans, but are always sketchy about the details (just like Trump). And when they come into power, disaster occurs. Trump would run this country into the ground. By his own admission he will raise taxes massively, waste money on gigantic government programs like deportation and the Wall To Nowhere, he will wreck our economy with Brazilian style protectionist tariffs, and dig our troops into another unwinnable morass in the middle east. Trump will be a disaster BY THE REPUBLICANS OWN STANDARDS.

And even though he stands for many things conservatives claim to despise, they support him. Whether that is a fault in conservatives or conservatism, I cannot say.
 
I reccomend you read a bit more into Sanders, as you're just regurgitating the usual, tired talking points.

This is a good place to start > I support Bernie Sanders, and I’m not stupid or unrealistic http://codygough.com/2016/01/27/i-support-bernie-sanders-and-im-not-stupid-or-unrealistic/



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Everything in there is about Trump too.

"So stop assuming that Donald Trump supporters are unrealistic or stupid, because we’re not. Call us hopeful, call us idealists, call us optimists, but don’t call us unrealistic or stupid. And stop underestimating us.

As a supporter of Donald Trump, I fully recognize that this whole “political revolution” thing is not a guarantee. But right now, the opportunity to start one is a whole lot more appealing to me than the status quo."

Sounds pretty much the same to me.

Do really think I expect a Wall on the southern border in 2 years? Really? Do really think I expect 11 million illegal immigrants to disappear in even Trump's FIRST TERM? Not a chance it's going to happen. I'm smart enough to know that and so are a majority of Trump supporters. Just like you think Sanders supporters are soooo smart and know we're never going to really tax millionaires 60% (because they just have too much money - for no other reason than that to Sanders), that we're going to socialize medicine like Europe.

Sanders supporters still seem to WANT to be like Europe, which is where I'm calling Bullshit out on you and all your hippie co-supporters of Bernie Sanders. How have European policies been better for ANYONE? Can you please, just someone tell me this argument that supports Bernie Sanders here.... Please, I want to hear an intelligent point about European Socialism and it's benefits on society. Because I don't see it.

Tibs, you are getting the wool pulled over your eyes that somehow Europe is so much more fair, that everyone has a great safety net, their economy is just as good, there is less corporate corruption (even though half the corporations Sanders hates are based in Europe btw), there banks are nicer..... should I continue?

Where are you guys coming up with this ****?

You seem to think I don't understand Sanders' "Revolution". I do. It's called European Socialism. I know EXACTLY what the **** that is. I've seen it play itself out in Europe over the last 25 years. I want no part of that revolution. Nothing about it. Small business in Europe is practically extinct.

You hide behind your support knowing it's not "really going to happen".... funny kind of support that is, then. Let's just say I have a lot more faith Donald Trump understands how to "revolutionize" U.S. corporations in America than Bernie Sanders does.

I don't buy for one second Sanders supporters as "more intelligent" than Donald Trump supporters. That's bullshit to the Nth degree. They are just as pissed off at the system unfortunately, they are barking up a socialist tree no sane person should even be contemplating for this country.
 
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Thanks for enlightening me deljzc with your extensive insight and knowledge. Good luck to you and Trump over the next few months, hope things work out well for you (and the country) if indeed Trump becomes the next president.
 
The latest and most accurate Iowa caucus polls are out...


Trump up by 5 over Cruz

Clinton up by 3 over Sanders. +\- 3 moe
 
And deljzc, you're not alone with your anti-Bernie rants.


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Sanders surge panics Washington establishment
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...sanders-surge-panics-washington-establishment

Virtually the entire Washington and Wall Street establishments are now in a state of panic about the possibility of a Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) victory in the Iowa Democratic caucus next Monday.

The Sanders revolution of young people, which includes a growing number of young women, independent workers in some labor unions that refuse to go along with the establishment, and liberal populists and idealists of all varieties, is now within striking distance of stunning the political world with upset victories in the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary.

In response, the virtual bedlam that has been behind the scenes in the Washington establishment in recent weeks is now coming into the open. It is a sight to behold!

In the last 24 hours, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has been seen on television criticizing the Sanders proposal for Medicare for all, which has huge support throughout the Democratic Party and, arguably, majority support throughout the nation. Privately, I protested what she said; here my protest becomes public. In a private memo, I wrote that if she wants to endorse Hillary Clinton she should, and state why she believes Clinton would be a great president, a proposition that can be fairly argued, but an argument that has never made effectively made by Clinton herself.

In the last 24 hours, the editorial board of The Washington Post launched a major broadside against Sanders. The Post is a paper owned by a billionaire and, in the early 2000s (under different ownership), its editorial page ardently supported the Iraq War that Sanders (and I) opposed. While the Post's columnists include a heavy dose of neoconservatives alongside some traditional moderate liberals, the Post recently let go Harold Myerson, its one authentically liberal populist columnist who had the spirit of Occupy Wall Street and the Sanders campaign.

As the Iowa caucus comes close, there is panic in the air of the establishment and that includes the Washington Democratic establishment, the Wall Street financial establishment and the corporate media establishment, which today is only concerned about the Donald Trump reality show and the GOP debate.

Meanwhile in Iowa, Sanders roused Democrats with a moving television ad, one of the best in decades, based on the theme of the Simon and Garfunkel song "America." While Sanders supporters are taking their case to social media, to campus meetings, to labor union halls, to farmers and workers in Iowa, and to homes through large-scale door-to-door campaigning.

What the insider Washington Democratic establishment fails to understand is that the issues Sanders raises have great appeal to the broad nation: a free public college education paid for through a Wall Street transaction tax; an increase in Social Security payments (now frozen at least year's rate for the new year); breaking up big banks and re-instituting reforms initiated by President Franklin Delano Roosevelt; dramatic reforms of the criminal justice system. These are very popular ideas that are opposed by armies of lobbyists but supported by huge numbers of Democrats and large numbers of independents.

Clinton offers great possibilities of becoming a great president if she is nominated, and her campaign should be singing her praises and not letting her advocates attack long-held policies, visions and dreams of the Democratic base that in many ways embody the core of the Democratic vision for America.

Sanders has earned a great chance of winning the Iowa caucus and Washington establishment Democrats should consider why Sanders runs so far ahead of Trump in so many match-up polls, and why Sanders runs stronger than Clinton in these match-up polls against Trump.

Make no mistake, the Washington establishment is now in full panic as the Iowa caucus approaches. While it is not a pretty sight to see, Democrats should be thanking Bernie Sanders for inspiring so many people to become active in the Democratic Party, bringing the change to our democratic process that the party, and our country, certainly needs.
 
A vote for Bernie is a vote for Trump.
You can like him or hate him, but it's hard not to root for the cinderalla story that has become Bernie Sanders' candidacy. Who in the world thought he'd be able to catch up to Hillary? Feel the Bern! ;)

 
You can like him or hate him, but it's hard not to root for the cinderalla story that has become Bernie Sanders' candidacy. Who in the world thought he'd be able to catch up to Hillary? Feel the Bern! ;)

Anyone who watched Hillary tank in her last presidential campaign. It's hard to find someone less likable than she is.
 
The big difference here Tibs is that Trump is leading in all the polls and looks like the runaway nomination.

Sanders is so far behind in the polls on Super Tuesday it's almost a joke people still talk about him like he has a chance. He's 30+ points behind Hillary in every poll in the south. Every ******* one.

So what if Sanders wins New Hampshire? You really care about New Hampshire? If he can't win in an all white New England state right next to where he lives, how is he going to win anywhere else? Christ, he should be up by 30 points in New Hampshire even to be considered a serious democratic candidate.

Sanders isn't going to win the nomination unless Clinton gets indicted (and I'm not even sure that going to change it).

Tibs... you better get your head out of your *** and start asking yourself who you are going to vote for between Trump and Clinton. All your Sanders love fest doesn't mean jack **** in another 30-40 days.
 
Tibs... you better get your head out of your *** and start asking yourself who you are going to vote for between Trump and Clinton.
I wouldn't vote for Trump if you put a gun to my head, so that's easy. And **** you for being such an ******* lately on this board. Jesus, try to get a grip man.
 
Trump is looking to "wrest power from the elite"?

TRUMP IS THE ELITE
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My God Steel, I'm going to have to start asking you to get drug tested. I didn't say Trump is looking to wrest power from the elite.

You need to go back and look at post #2190 again when you're sober.
 
For some reason you missed the very last paragraph in the Chicago Tribune article that you yourself posted.

The USAToday article states this. The USAToday article also states, as I posted before:

67% of the costs will be covered by the Federal Government. 33% of the costs will be covered by the States.

Can you point to me where Idaho will be able to levy a tax on Wall Street? I'm missing that part?

"States would be required to produce the remaining 33% of the costs, or 23 billion dollars."

Now let me ask you a second question regarding trickle down Tibs. If the Government taxes Wall Street on investment houses, hedge funds and other stock trades, who ultimately pays for this?

I do. All of that will trickle back to me in terms of higher prices, higher costs of investing/trades/share prices and the like. You are disillusioned if you think there's going to be some special fund on Wall Street to pay that $47Billion. It's coming out of our pockets, ultimately.

My taxes will indeed be paying for this pipe dream.
 
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I wouldn't vote for Trump if you put a gun to my head, so that's easy. And **** you for being such an ******* lately on this board. Jesus, try to get a grip man.

His last two posts were pretty factual. I disagree 90% of the time with Del on issues. But he spoke from a position of knowledge. Because his words don't agree with your beliefs doesn't make him an *******. Unless, in Tibor's world., anyone who disagrees with a point of view you have is an *******? I can't answer that.
 
All the dope smoking hippies will be too afraid to go outside


Iowa: Blizzard watch issued for Monday night into Tuesday as forecasters predict 8 inches of snow or more

sorry Bernie - damn that Global Cooling
 

Oh that all just sounds lovely until you find out that Sanders' proposals would increase federal spending by 18 trillion dollars over 10 years, pushing federal spending from 20% of GDP to 30% of GDP.

Let's poll people and ask them if they still want this stuff knowing that total spending by local, state and federal governments would well exceed 50% of every dollar we earn in this country.Tell them the reality that there is no way mathematically it can be paid for by corporations and the very rich. Then see how popular it is.
 
If you want Bernie to win early to weaken Hillary, that's OK with me


First of all, before even Iowa and New Hampshire, Hillary starts out with a big lead in super delegates:


Super delegates are Democratic Distinguished party leaders, Governors, Senators, Representatives, and DNC members who have committed to a candidate.

Currently 354 Super delegates remain uncommitted, but more are committing to Hillary every week.

So far: Hillary – 344, Sanders – 12, O’Malley – 3 = Hillary +332.



Bernie has a numbers problem
 
Oh that all just sounds lovely until you find out that Sanders' proposals would increase federal spending by 18 trillion dollars over 10 years, pushing federal spending from 20% of GDP to 30% of GDP.

Let's poll people and ask them if they still want this stuff knowing that total spending by local, state and federal governments would well exceed 50% of every dollar we earn in this country.Tell them the reality that there is no way mathematically it can be paid for by corporations and the very rich. Then see how popular it is.

You can always raise taxes. Businesses and the public always have more money. It's really the government's money anyway.
 
If yinz will remember, it took the Supreme Court to determine that the tomato is a fruit not a vegetable...LOL

THIS is what turned me into a raving psycho conservative. Tomato's are OBVIOUSLY vegetables!

Sung to Billy Joel's Piano Man..

It's 9 o'clock on a Saturday...
Do you know when Donald's next insult will be?

It's getting later than usual...
Maybe he is "off" a little today?

da de da...de de da...

Your iambic pentameter......it needs work.

Cruz just torpedoed his own campaign?


Ted Cruz Campaign Sends Out Personal “Shaming Letters” To Iowa Voters

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http://www.redstate.com/2016/01/30/cruz-campaign-mailers-shame-voters/

Stoopit.

I reccomend you read a bit more into Sanders, as you're just regurgitating the usual, tired talking points.

This is a good place to start > I support Bernie Sanders, and I’m not stupid or unrealistic http://codygough.com/2016/01/27/i-support-bernie-sanders-and-im-not-stupid-or-unrealistic/



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Wow. That's it? Jon ******* Stewart? Dude is comical as hell even when he's trying to be serious.



Tim, that's exactly opposite of what's in Bernie's proposals.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/

College for All: Sen. Sanders has proposed making public colleges and universities tuition-free and substantially reducing student debt, in a plan that would cost about $75 billion a year.

Paid for by imposing a tax on Wall Street speculators that would generate about $300 billion in revenue.

How about we reduce the cost of college so people can attend without having to indenture themselves? Here's a good place to start.....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/steveodland/2012/03/24/college-costs-are-soaring/#183c283641bc

The overwhelming cost culprit is labor costs. Between 1993 and 2007, total university expenses rose 35%. But administration expenses rose a

whopping 61% and instruction expenses rose 39%. In fact, as a 2010 Goldwater Institute study finds, “universities have in recent years vastly

expanded their administrative bureaucracies, while in some cases actually shrinking the numbers of professors.” While enrollment rose between 1993

and 2007 by 14.5%, administrators employed per 100 students rose nearly 40% and spending on administration per student rose by 66%.


Another fact: This same industry, despite its legal status as a public charity, is today driven by motives indistinguishable from the profit-maximizing entities traded on the New York Stock Exchange.

http://www.salon.com/2014/10/01/col...ents_are_cash_cows_and_schools_the_predators/

.........Fantastic article....long but well worth the read! A few excerpts below.

The coming of “academic capitalism” has been anticipated and praised for years; today it is here. Colleges and universities clamor greedily these

days for pharmaceutical patents and ownership chunks of high-tech startups; they boast of being “entrepreneurial"; they have rationalized and

outsourced countless aspects of their operations in the search for cash; they fight their workers nearly as ferociously as a nineteenth-century railroad

baron; and the richest among them have turned their endowments into in-house hedge funds......

Paying $250 for a textbook is more like it nowadays; according to one economist, textbook prices have increased 812 percent over the past thirty-five

years, outstripping not only inflation (by a mile) but every other commodity—home prices, health care—that we usually consider to be spiraling out of

control............

Consider the sweetheart deals that are so commonplace between university administrations and the businessmen who happen to sit on the university’s

board of directors. Consider universities’ real estate operations, which are often thuggish and nearly always tax-free. Consider their army of

Washington lobbyists, angling for earmarks and fighting accountability measures. Consider their massive investments in sports. Or their sleazy

arrangements with tobacco companies and Big Pharma and high-tech start-ups.






Also, your (Bernie's) proposal that the evil corporations be taxed into oblivion to pay for college almost guarantees that there will be no jobs for the multitudes of graduates, a number that will increase exponentially when college becomes "free." The system would "eat it's young."

Here is how I see it:



And this:



That's whay I think it's wildly inaccurate to try to dimsiss him as some raging lunatic on the fringes. He's not. He's been entirely consistent in his views since the 70's. With Bernie, what you see is what you get.

http://feelthebern.org/who-is-bernie-sanders/

Consistently being a lunatic doesn't lessen the amount of lunacy.



I am trying hard to get on the Rubio band wagon...but that opening is very hard to squeeze into right now..

As is the case with most ********.

I wouldn't vote for Trump if you put a gun to my head, so that's easy. And **** you for being such an ******* lately on this board. Jesus, try to get a grip man.

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His last two posts were pretty factual. I disagree 90% of the time with Del on issues. But he spoke from a position of knowledge. Because his words don't agree with your beliefs doesn't make him an *******. Unless, in Tibor's world., anyone who disagrees with a point of view you have is an *******? I can't answer that.

BMTI......in fact I hit Del w positive rep twice today........an incredibly rare occurrence as we rarely agree.
 
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