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Tuitt Retired

I don’t think Tuitt’s replacement is on this team. These guys like Loudermilk I think can be good role players, backups but every day starters, I just don’t think so.
I think it would be smart to look at the veteran free agent DL out there and bring one in.
 
I feel like there are only 2 ways this went down.

1. Tuitt knew he didn't want to play again and he told the steelers that but the steelers didn't accept that and told Tuitt to just take the year to heal and decide next year.

2. Tuitt strung the steelers along and stole a year's salary.

He has my sympathies but he's not the only person to have lost somebody. Who on here gets a year off with pay to grieve a loved one? I'd bet most people get 1 week bereavement and then can use their vacation time and then after that, you better be back to work or you're fired. That's how it works for nearly everybody. I'm not being harsh on Tuitt. I'm just holding him to the same standard that most of the public lives with.

If Tuitt is retiring due to injuries like Andrew Luck then that's one thing. But if it's because he's still grieving then I have to question his circle of friends and family. If i had a close frioend or family member, there's no way I'd support them in wallowing in grief for the rest of their life. You must start moving forward. Getting back to work is a major step. It gets you back to routine, back to living.
 
I feel like there are only 2 ways this went down.

1. Tuitt knew he didn't want to play again and he told the steelers that but the steelers didn't accept that and told Tuitt to just take the year to heal and decide next year.

2. Tuitt strung the steelers along and stole a year's salary.

He has my sympathies but he's not the only person to have lost somebody. Who on here gets a year off with pay to grieve a loved one? I'd bet most people get 1 week bereavement and then can use their vacation time and then after that, you better be back to work or you're fired. That's how it works for nearly everybody. I'm not being harsh on Tuitt. I'm just holding him to the same standard that most of the public lives with.

If Tuitt is retiring due to injuries like Andrew Luck then that's one thing. But if it's because he's still grieving then I have to question his circle of friends and family. If i had a close frioend or family member, there's no way I'd support them in wallowing in grief for the rest of their life. You must start moving forward. Getting back to work is a major step. It gets you back to routine, back to living.
Have you ever woken up and realized you just couldn't mentally go to work that day?

That's kind of how I think this happened. Tuitt really wanted to want to come back, but when it came time for him to come back, he just felt he couldn't do it.

Also, is it possible that it isn't him wallowing in grief, but other family members? The thing is, if he were wallowing in grief, would he have completed his degree? That sounds more like someone looking forward to me.
 
That's great and all, not having a replacement for him in place does not benefit the team...

The FO may very well differ with your opinion.

I don't know when the FO was made aware of Tuitt's decision to retire but if it was before June 1st, then the team told him to hold until after June 1st for siplicity sakes.

If the decision was ade a long time ago shame on the FO for ignoring but if just made recently then what can yaz do?

I'd venture to say the FO has a better plan going forward than you do sitting here complaining.



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I don't think they looked at it like that at all. You have a very skeptical outlook on the motives of the team.
So if an undrafted rookie free agent about to be cut in training camp suffers a terrible tragedy, do the Steelers suddenly find a roster spot for him? Yes or No?

It’s not skepticism.
 
I feel like there are only 2 ways this went down.

1. Tuitt knew he didn't want to play again and he told the steelers that but the steelers didn't accept that and told Tuitt to just take the year to heal and decide next year.

2. Tuitt strung the steelers along and stole a year's salary.

He has my sympathies but he's not the only person to have lost somebody. Who on here gets a year off with pay to grieve a loved one? I'd bet most people get 1 week bereavement and then can use their vacation time and then after that, you better be back to work or you're fired. That's how it works for nearly everybody. I'm not being harsh on Tuitt. I'm just holding him to the same standard that most of the public lives with.

If Tuitt is retiring due to injuries like Andrew Luck then that's one thing. But if it's because he's still grieving then I have to question his circle of friends and family. If i had a close frioend or family member, there's no way I'd support them in wallowing in grief for the rest of their life. You must start moving forward. Getting back to work is a major step. It gets you back to routine, back to living.
My god man. Maybe this is his way to moving forward. Maybe he isn’t “wallowing in grief for the rest of his life”. Maybe
This is his way moving forward. He just got his degree from Notre Dame. Maybe this is his way of moving forward.
Maybe this is his way of getting back to work. Just not in football. You think there is not life besides football?
You are “questioning his circle of friends and family” who the hell are you? My god man. Just because he doesn’t want to play for our team? I repeat. He just got his degree from Notre Dame. Maybe he wants to make a difference for the betterment of society. Believe it or not you can do that without playing football. SMH. Question his circle of family and friends? Man. There are certainly some posts on this thread I am starting to question.
 
I think the STEELERS knew of this emminant decision but encouraged him to wait till after JUNE 1 due to cap remifications to benefit the team



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Doesn’t the fact that he retired make the date irrelevant? Tuitt voided the contract, not the Steelers..
 
My god man. Maybe this is his way to moving forward. Maybe he isn’t “wallowing in grief for the rest of his life”. Maybe
This is his way moving forward. He just got his degree from Notre Dame. Maybe this is his way of moving forward.
Maybe this is his way of getting back to work. Just not in football. You think there is not life besides football?
You are “questioning his circle of friends and family” who the hell are you? My god man. Just because he doesn’t want to play for our team? I repeat. He just got his degree from Notre Dame. Maybe he wants to make a difference for the betterment of society. Believe it or not you can do that without playing football. SMH. Question his circle of family and friends? Man. There are certainly some posts on this thread I am starting to question.

OK, you say he's getting his degree and moving on with his life. Then why did he take a year's salary knowing he wouldn't play again? Take football out of it. What employer allows this scenario where they pay somebody a full year of bereavement salary while at that same time the person is taking college courses to potentially leave your company? You seem to think I'm being mean to Tuitt. No, i'm simply applying the same rules the rest of us live by.

I'm not mad that he's not playing. I assumed he was never playing again, so I have no emotion in this. Just wondering why Tuitt is carved out such special status that i'd wager nobody on this board would get.

I don't know the details and that's why i made point 1 that the steelers may have known he would ultimately retire and still wanted to be charitable and pay him. I would question that decision. He's not the first or last member of the steeler organization that will lose a loved one. Is the precedent now that when you lose somebody, you get a year paid leave? If not then are you telling the next person to lose somebody that their loss is not as great when you expect them back at work after a few weeks?

I wish Tuitt well but the way this situation was handled was very odd.

As for the steelers, this makes the last few drafts look worse. How do you not put a bigger priority on drafting DL?
 
Have you ever woken up and realized you just couldn't mentally go to work that day?

That's kind of how I think this happened. Tuitt really wanted to want to come back, but when it came time for him to come back, he just felt he couldn't do it.

Also, is it possible that it isn't him wallowing in grief, but other family members? The thing is, if he were wallowing in grief, would he have completed his degree? That sounds more like someone looking forward to me.

That made sense last year, but a year later? Lots of people wake up and don't want to go to work for a variety of reasons.

I feel that it's important to get back to your routine soon after a tragedy, within a week or 2. It doesn't mean grief goes away. It never does. But staying home doing nothing makes it worse. Work is the biggest part of our daily lives and getting back to it even when you dread it, is the biggest step in starting to live again.

In short, i feel it's mean to enable somebody to NOT work for a very extended period.
 
The FO may very well differ with your opinion.

I don't know when the FO was made aware of Tuitt's decision to retire but if it was before June 1st, then the team told him to hold until after June 1st for siplicity sakes.

If the decision was ade a long time ago shame on the FO for ignoring but if just made recently then what can yaz do?

I'd venture to say the FO has a better plan going forward than you do sitting here complaining.



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Good, still a platform to complain about the disaster that is the Twitt soap opera... Go back to all the smoke that they were all blowing about... Will be interesting to see what they do to fill the void.
 
Good, still a platform to complain about the disaster that is the Twitt soap opera... Go back to all the smoke that they were all blowing about... Will be interesting to see what they do to fill the void.
If they show they are solid against the run it won't be a big deal. Regardless they should add a body no later than the cut downs.
 
Have you ever woken up and realized you just couldn't mentally go to work that day?

That's kind of how I think this happened. Tuitt really wanted to want to come back, but when it came time for him to come back, he just felt he couldn't do it.

I hear 'ya. We ALL have days we cannot stomach the thought of going to work. ALL of us. And I get it. Further, Tuitt can do whatever he wants with his career.

However, the fact of the matter is Tuitt has five months off (February-July), while most of us get maybe two weeks off plus national holidays. Most of us have to work to age 62 or beyond. Most of us don't earn a fortune in just 8 working years.

So I get it, don't begrudge him, it's his life. But I hope he told the Steelers months ago, "Hey, I am not coming back." I just have to wonder if that happened, what with a lot of people - including Tomlin and Colbert - saying they believed he was coming back.
 
I hear 'ya. We ALL have days we cannot stomach the thought of going to work. ALL of us. And I get it. Further, Tuitt can do whatever he wants with his career.

However, the fact of the matter is Tuitt has five months off (February-July), while most of us get maybe two weeks off plus national holidays. Most of us have to work to age 62 or beyond. Most of us don't earn a fortune in just 8 working years.

So I get it, don't begrudge him, it's his life. But I hope he told the Steelers months ago, "Hey, I am not coming back." I just have to wonder if that happened, what with a lot of people - including Tomlin and Colbert - saying they believed he was coming back.
Let me give you an episode from my personal life to see if I can convey what I meant. In my younger years, I was a competitive swimmer. I started swimming competitively at six years old, and continued into college. I started my season in my junior year, and was looking forward to swimming that season. I went through about the first month of preseason training, and was loving it until one day in practice where some injuries I had fought through the two previous seasons started creeping up. I finished the practice, and looked at a friend of mine and said "Don't be surprised if I'm not here tomorrow." I left that practice and have never missed swimming since. In a single two-hour practice, I went from really looking forward to the coming season to not ever wanting to swim laps again.

If Tuitt had been planning on not participating this season, why would he have set up his stuff in his locker? Why would he be letting his teammates think he was coming back (my understanding is that he told them about three days ago)?
 
Let me give you an episode from my personal life to see if I can convey what I meant. In my younger years, I was a competitive swimmer. I started swimming competitively at six years old, and continued into college. I started my season in my junior year, and was looking forward to swimming that season. I went through about the first month of preseason training, and was loving it until one day in practice where some injuries I had fought through the two previous seasons started creeping up. I finished the practice, and looked at a friend of mine and said "Don't be surprised if I'm not here tomorrow." I left that practice and have never missed swimming since. In a single two-hour practice, I went from really looking forward to the coming season to not ever wanting to swim laps again.

If Tuitt had been planning on not participating this season, why would he have set up his stuff in his locker? Why would he be letting his teammates think he was coming back (my understanding is that he told them about three days ago)?

Interesting. I guess the guy had an epiphone and just as occurred with you, he woke up the morning of June 1, 2022 and said, "the hell with football." I certainly cannot dismiss that possibility.

Does make it tough on the team that hung with him for 19 months, however.
 
Interesting. I guess the guy had an epiphone and just as occurred with you, he woke up the morning of June 1, 2022 and said, "the hell with football." I certainly cannot dismiss that possibility.

Does make it tough on the team that hung with him for 19 months, however.
Yeah, I only gave that as a possibility. I just hate the constant speculation on when he knew he was going to call it a career and, of course, assigning the most evil version of that to him.
 
So if an undrafted rookie free agent about to be cut in training camp suffers a terrible tragedy, do the Steelers suddenly find a roster spot for him? Yes or No?

It’s not skepticism.
The Steelers would I am sure do something for that person to help. Yes it is Skepticism and also not an apples to apples comparison. They have in fact put people in bad situations on IR or other measures. Tuitt did not take a spot on the roster as he was on IR. They have also demonstrated the same with Shazier as well. YOu just have a natural hate for businesses and think they are all evil.
 
Tomlin should have know. So should have Heyward. Did they tell the team? Nope. I wish Tuitt good luck and thank him for the service. I've been thinking his absence from OTT's was no accident and we can use the cap space he occupied. (8+million)
How should the HC know??? What are OTT's???
 
Makes me wonder if Tuitt’s absence from OTAs forced a “we need an answer” conversation the Steelers should have had several months ago.

As admirable as it seems, I think the Steelers keeping Tuitt was bad policy. Suppose it was a player that was about to become an obvious cap casualty due to their declining ability and increasing salary. If they suffered a similar tragedy, do you keep them on the roster in spite of the terrible business decision? No? Then you don’t do it for Tuitt either.
Ahem...Shazier.
 
The Steelers would I am sure do something for that person to help. Yes it is Skepticism and also not an apples to apples comparison. They have in fact put people in bad situations on IR or other measures. Tuitt did not take a spot on the roster as he was on IR. They have also demonstrated the same with Shazier as well. YOu just have a natural hate for businesses and think they are all evil.
He was not on IR, he was on the IR-return list. The extent and details of the “knee injury” were always vague. His non-return was a mystery and was always mentioned in the same breath as “he’s also dealing with the death of his brother”. If you can provide the specifics of his “knee injury” I’d love to finally hear them. Do you think the “knee injury” is what kept him out last season and is why he’s retiring? Enough with the “knee injury”!

Shazier was different as he suffered a career-ending, life-threatening injury while playing.

I’m saying that the Steelers were charitable when they shouldn’t have been and you see that as saying they’re evil? Do explain.
 
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