Tuitt Retired

[Steelmann]

OK, you say he's getting his degree and moving on with his life. Then why did he take a year's salary knowing he wouldn't play again? Take football out of it. What employer allows this scenario where they pay somebody a full year of bereavement salary while at that same time the person is taking college courses to potentially leave your company? You seem to think I'm being mean to Tuitt. No, i'm simply applying the same rules the rest of us live by.

I'm not mad that he's not playing. I assumed he was never playing again, so I have no emotion in this. Just wondering why Tuitt is carved out such special status that i'd wager nobody on this board would get.

I don't know the details and that's why i made point 1 that the steelers may have known he would ultimately retire and still wanted to be charitable and pay him. I would question that decision. He's not the first or last member of the steeler organization that will lose a loved one. Is the precedent now that when you lose somebody, you get a year paid leave? If not then are you telling the next person to lose somebody that their loss is not as great when you expect them back at work after a few weeks?

I wish Tuitt well but the way this situation was handled was very odd.

As for the steelers, this makes the last few drafts look worse. How do you not put a bigger priority on drafting DL?

Let’s get one thing straight. I made my comments mostly because of your wallowing in grief and questioning his family and friends comments. I mean C’mon. Seriously. Somebody had to say something to that BS.

You guys act like the money came out of your pocket. When Shazier got his money we were a classy organization. When Andrew Luck got paid nobody questioned it. The massage king from Cleveland got paid last year. I question that.

Obviously you think he took the money last year knowing he was not going to play this year. I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt. If people haven’t figured out that professional athletes receive preferred treatment in life.....well I just don’t know what to say to that.

 

[Stryker]

Bob was Pop. The Derrrr was classic Pop. He didn't even try to settle in this time. Lolz...

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

He was not on IR, he was on the IR-return list. The extent and details of the “knee injury” were always vague. His non-return was a mystery and was always mentioned in the same breath as “he’s also dealing with the death of his brother”. If you can provide the specifics of his “knee injury” I’d love to finally hear them. Do you think the “knee injury” is what kept him out last season and is why he’s retiring? Enough with the “knee injury”!

Shazier was different as he suffered a career-ending, life-threatening injury while playing.

I’m saying that the Steelers were charitable when they shouldn’t have been and you see that as saying they’re evil? Do explain.

Why shouldn't they have been charitable is losing a brother like that somehow less tragic in your eyes? And yes he was on IR regardless of the differing designations, you are splitting hairs. He still did not eat up a roster spot as you inferred.

 

[Steeltime]

What are OTT's???

Organized team ... titty-fights?

 

[bermudasteel]

Oh yeah. You're a tough one, slushsteel. No please. I'm scared. Really.

Hey guys I'm slushsteel. Look at me. I'm tough. F'n Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I guess we need to install that MAC address blocker...

 

[bermudasteel]

I feel like there are only 2 ways this went down.

1. Tuitt knew he didn't want to play again and he told the steelers that but the steelers didn't accept that and told Tuitt to just take the year to heal and decide next year.

2. Tuitt strung the steelers along and stole a year's salary.

He has my sympathies but he's not the only person to have lost somebody. Who on here gets a year off with pay to grieve a loved one? I'd bet most people get 1 week bereavement and then can use their vacation time and then after that, you better be back to work or you're fired. That's how it works for nearly everybody. I'm not being harsh on Tuitt. I'm just holding him to the same standard that most of the public lives with.

If Tuitt is retiring due to injuries like Andrew Luck then that's one thing. But if it's because he's still grieving then I have to question his circle of friends and family. If i had a close frioend or family member, there's no way I'd support them in wallowing in grief for the rest of their life. You must start moving forward. Getting back to work is a major step. It gets you back to routine, back to living.

Wow...

 

[bermudasteel]

He's not a 'Bama guy

We'll never get a shot at them (Bama DL's) - they go in the top 10 every year LOL!!!

 

[bermudasteel]

Apples and oranges comparison. Shazier was actually and tragically hurt while playing and desperately wanted to play again.

Well, unless you're a mind-reader I don't know nor does anyone else know what Tuitt was thinking/feeling...

 

[Troglodyte]

Why shouldn't they have been charitable is losing a brother like that somehow less tragic in your eyes? And yes he was on IR regardless of the differing designations, you are splitting hairs. He still did not eat up a roster spot as you inferred.

It’s bad policy. At best, it seems the Steelers were in denial about Tuitt. At some point they should have drawn a line with him. The Steelers are in the football business, they pay people to play football. They shouldn’t have paid Tuiit hundreds of thousands of dollars a week for declining to play football for eighteen weeks all the while failing to address a void in their defensive line.

IR return list is absolutely different than IR. If someone is out for the season, a team can plan for their absence accordingly, they’re not relying on that player returning and contributing.

 

[Troglodyte]

Well, unless you're a mind-reader I don't know nor does anyone else know what Tuitt was thinking/feeling...

We will likely never know, but the Steelers, at some point long before 12/26/21 should have been thinking “He should be physically able to play, we can’t continue to pay him not to play” and had a sit down with Tuitt telling him that they’re there for him as a person, but they’ll only be interested in him as a football player if and when he’s ready.

It’s a business. Tuitt didn’t need many more millions to get over his brothers death.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Doesn’t the fact that he retired make the date irrelevant? Tuitt voided the contract, not the Steelers..

I don't know the ramifications of a june 1st cut / retirement VS the cap hit. If he retired does the June 1 st date matter, can the steelers hold the contract till after June 1st ? I think that this whole date / announcement coincided for a simple reason of cap ramifications..



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[bermudasteel]

We will likely never know, but the Steelers, at some point long before 12/26/21 should have been thinking “He should be physically able to play, we can’t continue to pay him not to play” and had a sit down with Tuitt telling him that they’re there for him as a person, but they’ll only be interested in him as a football player if and when he’s ready.

It’s a business. Tuitt didn’t need many more millions to get over his brothers death.

Did you pay him any money? I'm curious...

 

[Drink IRON City]

The Steelers would I am sure do something for that person to help. Yes it is Skepticism and also not an apples to apples comparison. They have in fact put people in bad situations on IR or other measures. Tuitt did not take a spot on the roster as he was on IR. They have also demonstrated the same with Shazier as well. YOu just have a natural hate for businesses and think they are all evil.

Ryan Switzer comes to mind on the insurance for his toddler's troubles. I thin k they kept him on some list that allowed the insurance to still anne up.

I also think he got paid a partial wage even though he wasn't making the team or coming back.



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[Troglodyte]

Did you pay him any money? I'm curious...

It’s not the money, it’s the management and direction of the football team. For a year now, some of us have been asking “WTF is up with Tuitt?” It appears that the Steelers finally asked the same question when he didn’t show up for OTAs.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

It’s bad policy. At best, it seems the Steelers were in denial about Tuitt. At some point they should have drawn a line with him. The Steelers are in the football business, they pay people to play football. They shouldn’t have paid Tuiit hundreds of thousands of dollars a week for declining to play football for eighteen weeks all the while failing to address a void in their defensive line.

IR return list is absolutely different than IR. If someone is out for the season, a team can plan for their absence accordingly, they’re not relying on that player returning and contributing.

I truly don't think you know what the hell you are talking about, like always. IR return simply means the team can activate him if it becomes possible. I don't see what distinction you are trying to make. I also disagree that what they did is bad policy. It may not be the perfect policy from a short term personnel standpoint but it is great policy from a human standpoint and from an integrity standpoint. Potential free agents and players negotiating will look and see a team willing to take care of it's own and want to come here or maybe just maybe be a little easier to negotiate with in good faith. I am glad you don't run the team.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

I guess we need to install that MAC address blocker...

What you got against the MAC we get some good players from there. Derpp

 

[topseed]

What do you base this on? Were you inside his head? It seems to me that everything he said and did was with the hope that he could return. Up until his announcement of retirement, Cam Heyward seemed to believe he wanted to come back. My guess is that he did up until the last moment. Otherwise, why come to the facility this spring? Why have his stuff at his locker ready for OTAs? He wanted to come back, but just realized at this point that his heart would not be in it, which would be dangerous for both himself and his teammates.

I base it on reality. I was talking about Tuitt not intending to play a single down in 2021, which is what happened.

Everything he said and did indicated he wanted to return to the field? Like what? The guy was able to run in a knee brace in early October. Dale Lolley said that he was fully recovered by the end of November. There was never a word let alone a confirmation about any setback with his injury; he just didn't play, and nobody (outside of a few Steelers fans) really questioned it because of what happened to his brother.

He wanted to come back this year? What do you base this on? Were you inside his head? Because he left his sh*t in his locker from last year? That's your basis? lol
I base my opinion on facts: If he intended to play, Tuitt would have played and continued playing.

Instead, he wasn't interested in coming back last season (but still conveniently collected his $9 million dollars), he DIDN'T show up for OTAs this year, and he then simply RETIRED, with his main concern being that he could leave the game with his health. What's hard to understand about what was in his head?

 

[topseed]

the decision had to have come from him very recent and that he waited until June 1st, actually, helped the Steelers. Cap wise.

Calling him names doesn't solve anything, That's what I meant about keeping it classy. What does that solve? Yea, as a Steeler fan, it sucks, but it's his life and decision. The team has to pick up the pieces and fill that gap. Hopefully, they are getting their ducks in a row and seeing what's out there(Suh?!?!).

Why did his decision have to be recent? Or could it be that the Steelers informed him that last year's gravy train was over, and it was time for him to start earning his salary in 2022?

I'm not going to look down at other passionate Steelers fans who may be a little upset about the whole circumstance, and have (oh the humanity!) called Tuitt a name. You can if you want to, I guess. The fact remains that there are a lot of hard-working people out there who have to trudge their way through their own tragedies...and they're understandably (in my opinion) resentful towards a wealthy athlete accepting more millions for doing nothing, while they aren't given the same latitude at their respective places of work.

 

[CoolieMan]

man some of you act as if Tuitt ****** your mom and never called her again

I would have loved for him to return and help solidify that damn DL

but that was not to be,

 

[TDX27]

We all know the Steelers Organization is the best in all sports. They take care of their players for better or worse. We may not like this situation but you have to respect Rooney and the Steelers for how they treat their players.

 

[Badcat]

It’s not the money, it’s the management and direction of the football team. For a year now, some of us have been asking “WTF is up with Tuitt?” It appears that the Steelers finally asked the same question when he didn’t show up for OTAs.

You or anyone else outside of the Steelers organization know ******* all about what went down, so quit with the f u c king grandstanding speculation. You're giving an opinion, so stop acting like you're voice of reason and authority.

 

[Drink IRON City]

You or anyone else outside of the Steelers organization know ******* all about what went down, so quit with the f u c king grandstanding speculation. You're giving an opinion, so stop acting like you're voice of reason and authority.

You mean my dreamed ownership doesn't constitute a voice????

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[Steel Reign]

Did you pay him any money? I'm curious...

Call on me! I want to be the dumbass today! It is the money of the fans which ultimately becomes the salary of the players. As a result, we did pay him. WE PAID HIM. HE SCREWED ALL OF US AND OUR MOTHERS TOO!!!!! AHHHHHHHH!!!!

/stroke

Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

 

[thesteelcity]

Why did his decision have to be recent? Or could it be that the Steelers informed him that last year's gravy train was over, and it was time for him to start earning his salary in 2022?

I'm not going to look down at other passionate Steelers fans who may be a little upset about the whole circumstance, and have (oh the humanity!) called Tuitt a name. You can if you want to, I guess. The fact remains that there are a lot of hard-working people out there who have to trudge their way through their own tragedies...and they're understandably (in my opinion) resentful towards a wealthy athlete accepting more millions for doing nothing, while they aren't given the same latitude at their respective places of work.

yea, but us common folk can not compare to the money and lifestyle of a professional athlete and never will. You can boohoo all you want about life is unfair and he should have gone back to work, but the Steelers are a different organization. They don't do kneejerk reactions like the fans do and they are the ones that paid him to sit.
If Harvin needed more time to grieve for his father's passing last season, I'm sure he would have gotten more time from the team. They are classy like that.

 

[SCSteeler4life]

Dumb moves like this is the reason we are a average team now that can't win a playoff game. While it looks good to take care of your players, it was a stupid player personnel issue, and a bad business decision. Worse run D in the league last year, more to come this year. Our biggest weakness was his position. If it was anywhere else it might not be as bad. But oh well , it is what it is.