US Capitol breached

[Tibs]

You are thrilled with attacking and targeting and punishing and silencing every conservative voice.

Nope, not by a long shot. I fully support free speech and 1st amendment rights. Everyone should have equal and free access to express their views, be they liberal or conservative. I think conservative voices, views and opinions are critically important to the fabric of society. I believe in open debate and dialogue between differing and opposing poltical viewpoints.

I am speaking out against anyone who supports, directly or indirectly, a violent insurrection against the Republic. Those who turn to violence in an attempt to overturn a free and fair election, and who continue to propogate proven lies to rile up and incite violent mobs.

Frankly, I'm a bit taken aback by how few of you seem to agree. Instead, you continue to lash out and push partisan politics, and sadly, conspiracy theories and lies about the election. That is what got us to this point to begin with, a country on the brink.

I sincerely hope everyone stays safe in the coming days and weeks.

 

[Tibs]

Finally. The silence has been deafening.

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NEW: The DOJ & FBI plan to hold a briefing at 3 p.m. EST today on Capitol riots.</p>— Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) <a href="https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/status/1349055974158512130?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

 

[coupon]

He had influence over the events of that day even of he didn't explicitly call for any of that stuff. Maybe he knew what would happen, but I tend to think Trump lacks common sense about a lot of things and while he thought he would get his base fired up, I don't think he intended THAT. I think he intended for that group to go down to the capitol and make a ruckus, be heard, make a mess out in the yard. But he failed to recognize that the nation is sitting on a powder keg right now, and intentionally or not, he is doing his part to light the fuse. No, our entire political class isn't helping, and they are about 75% of the reason everyone, both left and right, are pissed off about being American right now.

Maybe he wants his supporters to start firing shots and kick Civil War 2.0 into gear, I don't know. But based on intel, it seems like **** is going down here pretty soon regardless of what Trump wants. People have been pushed to the edge, and I think this is out of anyone's control now. **** is going to be interesting starting Saturday. I am hoping that I don't have to see Americans killing other Americans, but I am afraid that's the next step.

I think you’re exactly right

 

[JMM]

No, you don't. You have never said one word - not a syllable - criticizing Google for targeting and censoring The Federalist, or Dennis Prager's YouTube series that had millions of views, or The American Spectator, or Twitter banning and "shadow banning" conservatives like Josh Hawley, Candace Owens, and suppressing the 100% accurate stories about Hunter and Joe and their China deals.

NOT.
ONE.
WORD.

You instead are just fine with it. So stop lying. You are thrilled with attacking and targeting and punishing and silencing every conservative voice.

And you are too stupid to realize that your band of soy-boys are playing with fire.

Speaking of Soy Boy, I see where the clown who somehow got into the Capitol wearing the buffalo garb is refusing to eat while in jail because the food is not organic. If anyone believe's that guy is really a Trump supporter and not some paid actor sponsored by the Dem party to shed a bad light on conservatives/Republicans, I have a bridge in NYC I want to sell em.

I want to see video of how he got in the building. Was he escorted in earlier in the day? Was he let in with the other actors with some mild resistance by willing accomplices charged with keeping the public out, or did he bust Capitol Police heads to get in? Thinking option 1 or 2.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/shirtless-horned-capitol-rioter-refuses-jail-food-not-organic

The whole damn thing is a friggin setup.

 

[thesteelcity]

He had influence over the events of that day even of he didn't explicitly call for any of that stuff. Maybe he knew what would happen, but I tend to think Trump lacks common sense about a lot of things and while he thought he would get his base fired up, I don't think he intended THAT. I think he intended for that group to go down to the capitol and make a ruckus, be heard, make a mess out in the yard. But he failed to recognize that the nation is sitting on a powder keg right now, and intentionally or not, he is doing his part to light the fuse. No, our entire political class isn't helping, and they are about 75% of the reason everyone, both left and right, are pissed off about being American right now.

Maybe he wants his supporters to start firing shots and kick Civil War 2.0 into gear, I don't know. But based on intel, it seems like **** is going down here pretty soon regardless of what Trump wants. People have been pushed to the edge, and I think this is out of anyone's control now. **** is going to be interesting starting Saturday. I am hoping that I don't have to see Americans killing other Americans, but I am afraid that's the next step.

Forgive me for being out of the loop, but what's going down on Saturday?

 

[JMM]

Forgive me for being out of the loop, but what's going down on Saturday?

You mean Trump hasn't called you?

 

[thesteelcity]

You mean Trump hasn't called you?

Appearently not. . .

 

[JMM]

Appearently not. . .

Hopefully he'll get through. In all seriousness, I have no idea but wouldn't be surprised if there will be paid actors going at it to make Conservatives/Republicans look really bad and force more crack downs on civil liberties. Just a guess...

 

[thesteelcity]

Hopefully he'll get through. In all seriousness, I have no idea but wouldn't be surprised if there will be paid actors going at it to make Conservatives/Republicans look really bad and force more crack downs on civil liberties. Just a guess...

Wouldn't be a bad guess. That's why it's hard for me to trust or believe what is being put out there. It seems the truth is somewhere in the middle, but with the media and Left controlling the media, it tends to bend toward the Right.

 

[Steelr4evr]

Speaking of Soy Boy, I see where the clown who somehow got into the Capitol wearing the buffalo garb is refusing to eat while in jail because the food is not organic. If anyone believe's that guy is really a Trump supporter and not some paid actor sponsored by the Dem party to shed a bad light on conservatives/Republicans, I have a bridge in NYC I want to sell em.

I want to see video of how he got in the building. Was he escorted in earlier in the day? Was he let in with the other actors with some mild resistance by willing accomplices charged with keeping the public out, or did he bust Capitol Police heads to get in? Thinking option 1 or 2.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/shirtless-horned-capitol-rioter-refuses-jail-food-not-organic

The whole damn thing is a friggin setup.


Yes, it sure is. It's pretty comical how easily misled people are. I know a work up when I see one. This has been going on all year long.

They want a response and they will get one if they persist long enough. A genuine one.

This isn't going away. The dissent isn't going away. You're going to have half the country believe the election was stolen. They can censor until they're blue in the face, that isn't going to change.

 

[Steeltime]

Nope, not by a long shot. I fully support free speech and 1st amendment rights. Everyone should have equal and free access to express their views, be they liberal or conservative. I think conservative voices, views and opinions are critically important to the fabric of society. I believe in open debate and dialogue between differing and opposing poltical viewpoints.

Huh, searched for any comment you had critical of Google, Twitter, Amazon, Fakebook, etc. about their suppressing clearly protected speech and can't seem to find a one. Not one. As in zero.

I am speaking out against anyone who supports, directly or indirectly, a violent insurrection against the Republic. Those who turn to violence in an attempt to overturn a free and fair election, and who continue to propogate proven lies to rile up and incite violent mobs.

"Proven lies"? Proven by whom and to whom? All governments do well is lie. That is their function in the world it seems.

Saying that you protect all worthy speech but not speech that "indirectly" incites violence or consists of a "proven lie" is no speech protection at all since you and your ilk can decide what is a "proven lie" or what "indirectly" references a "proven lie" that might incite violence.

Also, you do get that from 1770 to 1784, you would have been a Royalist agent looking to suppress those lying troublemakers like Thomas Paine, Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, Jon Jay, etc. You get that, don't you?

Frankly, I'm a bit taken aback by how few of you seem to agree. Instead, you continue to lash out and push partisan politics, and sadly, conspiracy theories and lies about the election. That is what got us to this point to begin with, a country on the brink.

Have you admitted that your statement applies much more forcefully to the lie known as Russia collusion? There is vastly more evidence of serious voting irregularity than there EVER was of "Russian collusion."

And yet 3+ years, 19 (D)im lawyers, and $40 million later, your side is still propagating that bullshit.

 

[Sarge]

Forgive me for being out of the loop, but what's going down on Saturday?

According to the FBI, there are supposed to be protests in the capital city of every state on Saturday, and I think they are saying that there is supposed to be a big one in DC on Wednesday or just before. I hope it's all wrong, because if it's not, I think this **** is going to get ugly.

 

[Confluence]

Let's not compare anyone to nazi guards.

 

[Steeltime]

According to the FBI, there are supposed to be protests in the capital city of every state on Saturday, and I think they are saying that there is supposed to be a big one in DC on Wednesday or just before. I hope it's all wrong, because if it's not, I think this **** is going to get ugly.

Why? Protests are not a problem. So some people have a screw loose. **** happens. Big deal. The protests are mostly peaceful and people not only have the right to demand change, they have the duty to do so.

Haven't we been told that for more than six months??

 

[Steeltime]

Which guard is Vile Comrade Tibs, Useful Idiot?

See, that's the thing about those desperate to target their fellow citizens and operating as willing tools for the corrupt power-hungry imbeciles who run socialist governments: They think they're indispensable and important, but the crooks running the show think they are as important as a used diaper and treat them as such.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I am still struck that almost a week out, no politician, from either party has had the forethought to do what needs to be done to tone things down a bit. They should be out there apologizing to the American people for their contributions to the problems we have. But none of them are introspective enough. I certainly wish any Republican would have the realization that if many of them governed as they campaigned, Donald Trump never is.

THIS. All our near 600 politicians in Washington have done is pointed fingers, placed blame, angered a nation. A WHOLE lot would be rectified if THEY stepped forward and said "we are sorry, we are the cause and we will be better" and enact moves to actually be better.

They are dividing us. They are the problem.

I am speaking out against any CONSERVATIVE who supports, directly or indirectly, a violent insurrection against the Republic. Those who turn to violence in an attempt to overturn a free and fair election, and who continue to propogate proven lies to rile up and incite violent mobs.

FIFY. We will all keep going back to last year. You emphatically DO NOT speak out against "anyone" who supports a violent insurrection. Last year we had COUNTLESS Federal facilities burned, attacked. We had police barracks burned attempting to kill the officers inside as well.

And our NATIONS CAPITOL was on fire last year. You spoke not against it. You didn't care. With your lack of condemnations, you supported it.

https://suwalls.com/games/vaas-far-cry-3-5

If you believe the bullshit you speak, which you do not, you'd have equally been enraged last year. FEDERAL buildings in Portland attacked. All you railed about at the time were Federal agents being involved, what an overreach it was, and you shat your panties because Trump threatened to send in the National Guard to quell that insurrection aimed at destroying Federal buildings.

When DC burned, you had BUBKUS to say.

Shut the **** up with your selective outrage.

 

[Superman]

This is worth a look, for those wandering aimlessly in the middle of the desert, your throats parched, your skin cracking from the sun, searching for some semblence of causation between Trump's speech and the events that followed at the Capitol.


<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What Trump said before his supporters stormed the Capitol, annotated <a href="https://t.co/hDyobrMP71">https://t.co/hDyobrMP71</a></p>— NewMexican, Ex-Texan (@OGrady_Texas) <a href="https://twitter.com/OGrady_Texas/status/1349004841490796546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

interesting. i read the third paragraph. did you?

Trump’s speech included no overt calls for his supporters to actually enter the Capitol or resort to violent means. But it included plenty of allusions to the idea that Congress accepting Joe Biden’s victory — an all-but-assured outcome at the time — was a result that simply couldn’t be countenanced and must be stopped. He urged his supporters to “fight” and “fight like hell” and lamented that they didn’t do so as hard as Democrats.

 

[Sarge]

Why? Protests are not a problem. So some people have a screw loose. **** happens. Big deal. The protests are mostly peaceful and people not only have the right to demand change, they have the duty to do so.

Haven't we been told that for more than six months??

Apparently, all the white racist proud boy Trump supporters are mad and might destroy some stuff. That's not allowed. That sort of thing is reserved for our friends on the left.

 

[Superman]

Nope, not by a long shot. I fully support free speech and 1st amendment rights. Everyone should have equal and free access to express their views, be they liberal or conservative. I think conservative voices, views and opinions are critically important to the fabric of society. I believe in open debate and dialogue between differing and opposing poltical viewpoints.

except President Trump and those who support him, correct? In which case you're clamoring for and excited by silencing those voices. These are voices of dissent. Those are the voices that are "the fabric of society". If you truly believed in open debate and dialogue, as you say, you'd welcome those voices of dissent. Why? Those voices obviously run counter-current than your thoughts, and as such could very well provide something to which you have not considered.

the point that Twitter/Facebook, etc has effectively silenced the POTUS means absolutely nothing to you. Which is another reason why you're valiantly earning that commie tag. That Big Tech can silence the POTUS, the very goddamned country where these ******* live, work and play, 100% means they can silence anyone they so choose. There's literally zero debate in that. Which is precisely what you want. Which is another reason you're earning your commie tag, Komrade.

I am speaking out against anyone who supports, directly or indirectly, a violent insurrection against the Republic. Those who turn to violence in an attempt to overturn a free and fair election, and who continue to propogate proven lies to rile up and incite violent mobs.

which proven lies? that the election is fraudulent? how do you KNOW that it was? due to the ongoing or even settled recounts that were conducted at state and county level? if so, which states? which counties? you're aware of mathematical improbabilities, correct? you do understand that a vote tabulation cannot ever decrease after it has been counted, correct? these are not new concepts.

Frankly, I'm a bit taken aback by how few of you seem to agree. Instead, you continue to lash out and push partisan politics, and sadly, conspiracy theories and lies about the election. That is what got us to this point to begin with, a country on the brink.

I sincerely hope everyone stays safe in the coming days and weeks.

i've accepted that the Dims are cheating and being underhanded in their quest for power. a lot of us have. that does not mean that we should put cherries on top of this **** sundae. it's still a **** sundae.

you say you want debate, but refuse to debate any point. Instead you copy/paste talking points and move on to the next. this is also why you've earned the troll tag.

it's up to you - and no one else - to refute those tags. I will not.

you whine, ***** and moan about being compared to nazis, but YOUR political side has had zero, none, nada ounce of pause in throwing that label on anyone to the right of their opinion. Interesting, no?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Which he did not do. You've been asked 100 times to provide the words he used to incite a riot. You cannot. Even the Compost said "Trump’s speech included no overt calls for his supporters to actually enter the Capitol or resort to violent means."

So therefore you agree that this censorship of Trump and the thousands of other Conservatives is wrong. Incredibly, dangerously, "we should all be very scared right now" wrong.

now, now, Timmy. scrape the bottom of the barrel when arguing with Tibs, but don't go through the barrel.
*admin warning*

That photo of Jews on Nazi trains was not directed at Tibs (you can see from my words above). It was a pointed example of what happens ultimately when these draconian steps are taken and emphasis to the point "we should all be very scared right now." Apologies if it was misunderstood.

 

[Steeler Pride]

That photo of Jews on Nazi trains was not directed at Tibs (you can see from my words above). It was a pointed example of what happens ultimately when these draconian steps are taken and emphasis to the point "we should all be very scared right now." Apologies if it was misunderstood.

If this was Nazi Germany, almost every lib I know would be first in line to volunteer to load people on the train. Dressed to the 9's with a big smile on their face.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Let's not compare anyone to nazi guards.

OK now I take a little exception....even though I agree with this sentiment.

Does it apply unilaterally? To everyone? The use of the word Nazi towards others is now off limits? I want to be 100% crystal clear what the rule is. For example:


Tibs: http://www.steelernationforums.com/...f-the-deep-end&p=319303&viewfull=1#post319303
"Can I come back to the Steelers neo nazi, alt right board and start posting again? " <---labels everyone here as a neo-Nazi

What is acceptable, what is not?

Clarification appreciated.

 

[Superman]

let's do a hypothetical

Tibs here is broadcasting to his merry small band of blithering idiots. Incessantly urging them to resist this here "neo-nazi" board. he's been pushed back upon, we've gotten in his face, disrupted his time here - all the tactics that the Dim politicians have stressed of their party members.

If Tibs were systematically removed from this board - maybe had his username blocked/banned - would Flog and the rest of his mouthbreathing cohorts agree that Tibs overstepped the line again and again?

 

[Tibs]

Jeez, pulling up a post from 2016....

Let me take this opportunity to apologize for my reckless comment five years ago. I don't think this is a neo nazi board and I should never have characterized it as such.

I do think there are a handful of posters here who toe the line with far right ideology, they'd probably be the first ones to admit it, and proudly so. But it was wrong to label the entire board in that manner, even if it happened five years ago.

let's do a hypothetical. If Tibs were systematically removed from this board

Go right ahead, pull the trigger. You know you want to. It would be a huge relief for a lot of you, would cause people to jump with joy.

Just do it, get it over with. You'll be considered a folk hero until the end of time.

 

[Superman]

Jeez, pulling up a post from 2016....

Let me take this opportunity to apologize for my reckless comment five years ago. I don't think this is a neo nazi board and I should never have characterized it as such.

I do think there are a handful of posters here who toe the line with far right ideology, they'd probably be the first ones to admit it, and proudly so. But it was wrong to label the entire board in that manner, even if it happened five years ago.



Go right ahead, pull the trigger. You know you want to. It would be a huge relief for a lot of you, cause people to jump with joy.

Just do it, get it over with. You'll be considered a folk hero until the end of time.

dont get your buttplug twisted, Tibs.
i do not want to do that.

its a ******* hypothetical.
why so defensive?