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it's actually amazing of how many videos there are on youtube on the shooting and the varied stories that have been ignored or being mislead. There's overlapping gunfire, single shot gunfire and two different distinctive guns firing one after the other. After the shooting, the sheriff states the police confronted the shooter and took him out, then they changed it to they found him dead. I still have major doubts that Paddock was a person that gambled, was retired and just snapped.

Here's one video that makes some interesting points:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSXTFxkPGzs

There's a lot of crap being bandied about on social media so grain of salt. The 200 shots through a door injuring a security guard 6 minutes before the major shooting on crowd is where I'm watching. That and reports that shooter was using girlfriends employee key card pass to use the service elevators.

Read something this morning Jesus Campos the shot in the leg security guard has armed guards posted at his residence. His story is really looking fishy too.
 
There's a lot of crap being bandied about on social media so grain of salt. The 200 shots through a door injuring a security guard 6 minutes before the major shooting on crowd is where I'm watching. That and reports that shooter was using girlfriends employee key card pass to use the service elevators.

Read something this morning Jesus Campos the shot in the leg security guard has armed guards posted at his residence. His story is really looking fishy too.

The whole thing is fishy. 200 bullets through a door and got hit once in the leg. Ok. . . I guess it can happen. We were told SWAT got there in 72 minutes after the shooting started, but now we learn that police found Paccock dead at 10:25 and they shot him, as per the Police Chief. He checked in on the 28th, then the 25th and may have on the 23rd. WTF! The hotel can't confirm this?
 
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...d-as-a-security-guard-in-the-state-of-nevada/

It’s being reported that the security guard made famous in the Las Vegas shooter story is not even registered as a guard with the State of Nevada. Is he even a guard? Why was he there?

Every security guard in the state of Nevada has to register as an armed or unarmed guard with the state’s Private Investigator’s Licensing Board (PILB). This entity’s records are publicly searchable at: nevadapilb.glsuite.us.

There’s no Jesus Campos licensed with the PILB.

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There’s no Jesus Campos licensed with the PILB.

Be hilarious if the security guard turns out to be an illegal immigrant. You know how hotels are about hiring their help.
 
stepping into WigWhirled...

supposed for an instance that the images we've seen are actual images and not doctored.
we can google images of the hotel and see carpet patterns and insides of the rooms.
we have eyewitness accounts that this happened. people were shot. people were killed. windows were busted out of the Mandalay casino hotel.
we have a body of whom they say committed this

nice and neat

but, look at the images again. nice and neat.

Above the Mandalay Casino is Four Seasons. owned by a Saudi billionaire.

All in the same building.

Is there a way to access Four Seasons from Mandalay Bay? keep in mind, this guy had allegedly blocked off stairwells,etc.

In Wigdom - Paddock was an accomplice in gun running. His room was being used to run guns. At his age, he couldnt haul the guns up by himself. Obviously this was done by others during the time frame he was there. Or naive bellhops running "luggage" up to his room, with a $100 tip to stfu. This **** was planned, no doubt. All the cameras in Las Vegas and we don't have any footage of him with anyone else during that time? Hard to believe. Though it's fact that the shooting occurred. People reported hearing multiple guns being shot (which could happen if he was holding two ARs at the same time, but not with using bump stocks to fire off 19000 rounds per second). So what IF this was a gun deal gone bad? What if Paddock was shot prior to all this happening? What if - when the cops were alerted and prior to the swat team strolling to the room - the shooter(s) then accessed an entrance into Four Seasons? There are also rumors/witness accounts of black SUVs leaving the hotel as soon as the shooting started.

Timeline:
Shooting starts
black SUVs leave the casino
security guard is shot
shooting stops
tick tick tick tick tick
SWAT barges through the door riddled with 200 holes to find Paddock dead from suicide
nice and neat

What if this security guard wasn't really a security guard, but just some dumb dick trying to figure out what is going on and called police? Could his background info be changed? What if when he was shot, the shooter(s) then left the room and fled to the Four Seasons hotel?

yes, yes if ifs and buts were nuts...
 
What if that so called security guard who was shot just up and goes poof just before he was scheduled to do a bunch of interviews. His current location is not known.
 
Lot of peculiarities with Jesus. Armed security at his residence, he didn't show up for Hannity show, and the family has nothing to say. This is the chick who asked a question of Sheriff Lombardo and dressed down by him for decorum. I think Wig is onto something.

[video]https://www.pscp.tv/LauraLoomer/1mrxmmBAWqNxy[/video]
 
Lot of peculiarities with Jesus. Armed security at his residence, he didn't show up for Hannity show, and the family has nothing to say. This is the chick who asked a question of Sheriff Lombardo and dressed down by him for decorum. I think Wig is onto something.

[video]https://www.pscp.tv/LauraLoomer/1mrxmmBAWqNxy[/video]


Guy has armed security because this was no one man show. If he actually saw others then this makes him a target. This entire case is so far out of the normal nut job killer investigation.
 
been rather quiet regarding the investigation. Haven't heard much of anything of leads or motive. I wonder how far under the rug it's going to get pushed. . .
 
Boy they sure better be looking for other folks in this crime. All of this silence is either we're tracking others or we're covering **** up. The stuff going on between the FBI and the LVPD is really odd. It's just all off.
 
Now campos is missing apparently. He was supposedly all set to do some interviews and just vanished.
 
It's amazing to me how quiet this has gotten. I mean you search for "Stephen Paddock" on Google, I don't find a new article on the internet ANYWHERE over the last 2-3 days.

The media is only running puff stories about the victims now.

There has to be more to this. They HAVE to have information now after the full force of the FBI looking into this guy for 2 weeks. How they are keeping it under wraps is beyond me. When it comes to Trump, the leaks are everywhere. Paddock? Tight as a drum.
 
I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but have to admit there are way too many loose ends and strange occurrences here. Wtf is going on?
 
I would like to see the door and floor where 200 bullets rang out from Paddock's room. Should look like Swiss Cheese there.
 
I would like to see the door and floor where 200 bullets rang out from Paddock's room. Should look like Swiss Cheese there.

For all we know it's already been fixed.... We haven't even seen PICTURES of the hallway yet. How do we have some crime scene picture leaked and others not?

All the information released so far seems contrived. Like they had the storybook written and just conveniently released those pieces that worked for the story.

"Lone Wolf". "No way to anticipate it". "No apparent reason or cause to set him off."

I mean, is that it? Is that going to be the story and the rest buried forever?
 
For all we know it's already been fixed.... We haven't even seen PICTURES of the hallway yet. How do we have some crime scene picture leaked and others not?

All the information released so far seems contrived. Like they had the storybook written and just conveniently released those pieces that worked for the story.

"Lone Wolf". "No way to anticipate it". "No apparent reason or cause to set him off."

I mean, is that it? Is that going to be the story and the rest buried forever?

Right, there has been no reason or cause that set him off to construct this well-thought out plan for months. It was so sophisticated, the LVPD can't give a reason why. Dude snapped and that's all we need to know. Jesus Campos will be a figment of our imaginations and will forget that he even existed. We will not get the full truth because we can't handle it, so will have to settle for the vanilla version we are given.
 
I'm thinking this is some sort of staged set up. No video footage to be had yet. All very clandestine. Smells of CIA involvement or it's something in the realm of terrorism,gun running. Did they every clarify what weapons they actually collected? I'm still stuck on that photo of a rifle laying across Paddocks leg. It looks placed.
 
agreed about the AR on tripod positioned just so over his leg.
way too convenient.

this image:
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as if he was penning something, then shot himself.

this one:
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a gun resting right in front of the bar. just an odd place. or placement. see the evidence marker of 19? that is marked. none of the others are marked. just odd.

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back to the pic/area of where the guns were. if he was shooting out of that window, and someone was, quite literally all the brass conveniently positioned itself in the same area as where his body is (see above). and the ammo conveniently positioned next to the sofa.

so he was using the back of the sofa to prop the guns on. i can buy that. there are 4 guns in that area. what we don't see is what is behind that table/chair/whatever that thing is. we can see a piece of luggage (wheels on the bottom). three guns have tripods, but one is by the door.

where are all the empty magazines? with the number of bullets fired, he was either grabbing at a stockpile of guns and throwing them down when the magazine emptied. which would fit the idea that he wasn't "into guns" as his brother said and would have a problem swapping out magazines. but, even then, i'd expect a lot more guns laying around on the floor and not thrown into that table/chair/whatever when empty.
 
For 200 shots fired into the hallway, only one door has bullet holes (in a tight pattern) and the other door looks like it hasn't been hit at all?
 
there is a "do not disturb" sign on the floor. which would absolve the maids from not seeing what was in the room.

i would like to believe that he was a lone shooter, but too much **** just doesn't add up. and i try to not go into the deep rabbit hole that wig so enjoys.
 
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Near the doors to Paddock's room was a room service cart, with empty plates - and two cameras showing Paddock what was happening in the hall. A third camera was in the peephole of Paddock's door, but none of the footage was recorded
 
this mock up doesn't match the images inside the hotel room. so it's off.

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