I said the next day. I know i said that..look at the game threads you disappeared in each and every one. This one right there posting til the end of course
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We need a new Head Coach.......FIRE TOMLIN NOW!!!
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I said the next day. I know i said that..look at the game threads you disappeared in each and every one. This one right there posting til the end of course
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Oh, look. Six second-half posts in the second half of the Ravens game. Then countless posts right after it. Yikes.
Besides.. am I mistaken, or didn't you disappear after a bad loss recently, then pop back up and announce "I haven't posted lately because I don't want to argue about Tomlin"..?
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Nice sentence.
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He the whole thing
Your last post in the Raven game thread is page 36 of a 55 page thread. When it was insured the steelers had it you were gone. No great game Steelers nothing..just like the previous two. As long as the game is in doubt or we are losing you're posting away..
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Not trying to win a literary award here. Just pounding the keys.
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Oh sweet Christ. Meanwhile, you posted once in today's thread. I'm shocked. "til the end of course" LOL
I've spent the last two weeks raving about Bryant, Tuitt, Ben, etc. Never enough for the cheerleaders.
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Sensitive? Of course it was sarcastic, but Tomlin does suck. Just thought it was hilarious that this was the top thread when I logged back on after the game.
Because im superstitious.. and hadnt posted in the last two and we won
I had chislic and beer for lunch...
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Oh my sweet lord.
Your right SD im done. Just pissed with the loss.
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Just saw a stat the Steelers are 8-10 vs teams with losing records since 2012.
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Ha, fair enough.
This thread amuses me.
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You are just making **** up now. I said neither wins or losses are all that dependent on the head coach IMO. I thought I made that perfectly clear by saying that very thing about 10 times. Guess not. You want to blame Tomlin for today, fine, but blame Tomlin, the position coaches, the Coordinators and the players because everything was awful today. On the field they were getting outworked, outclasses and outmuscled. After the pep talks are over it's time to man the **** up and play. No excuses. The players do not get a free pass for not performing between the whistles as much as you want them to.
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You said very clearly that the HC's only real job is to give press conferences. He's the PR man, nothing more, right?
I spread the blame around quite evenly. But over eight years, we've cycled through a lot of different players and coordinators, and one of the few common threads in alllll of these awful losses and alllll of the awful gameplans and allllll of the ****** drafting is Tomlin.
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I sure did and I stand by it 100%. So now go ahead and tell me where I said the Head Coach should get all the credit when they win and no blame when they lose. Again, don't make things up. I said they get too much credit and too much blame for having not much effect. Show me a Head Coach with a fantastic record and I'll show you a Head Coach with a great staff of Assistants and a roster with great talent.
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That's because you're looking for a reason to nail him to the wall. If you weren't so emotionally involved, you might be able to be more objective. Take Vince Lombardi and put him in charge of a horrible team that is devoid of talent. Does he win the Super Bowl this year? Take a crap coach and put him in charge of a team loaded with All Pro's and future HOF players. Does he have a very good shot of winning the Super Bowl this year? Call up Bary Switzer and ask him. That tells you all you need to know about who is more important players vs. coach. Simple as that.
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They do. They also get soooo much credit that is undeserved. I've said multiple times that I don't think much of Tomlin's coaching ability either way but you are so wrapped up in your emotional witch hunt that you keep disregarding it. I MUST love him if I think he gets too much blame. Never mind the fact that I think the same thing about every other Head Coach in the NFL.
Now a guy like Jon Gruden I could see having a much greater effect on the outcomes of games because I see him as a genius when it comes to X's and O's. He would be like having another Offensive Coordinator out there and probably the better one at that But it's my opinion that there aren't a hell of alot of guys like him that come along. Exception to the rule.
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LOL. Yeah, you weren't wrong.
For all our disagreements, at least insaniti isn't acting like a stubborn douchebag.
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Where do you get this ****? Some magical vendetta against Tomlin. LOL. I loved the hire and saw loads of potential before he revealed what he really is.
But nope, not good enough. If I criticize him, I MUST have some deep-seeded hatred of the guy. Why? I dunno. But I must have one, somewhere, some way. It can't just be that my opinion of him changed because, ya know, I have eyeballs and a brain. Nope, vendetta.
This year? No, of course not. But my money is on him turning it around, not treading water year after year.
Win the Super Bowl with the Jags? LOL. That's a MASSIVE strawman.
(1) Winning the Super Bowl with the awful Jaguars would be the ONLY proof that Lombardi was a good coach? If he went 9-7 or 10-6 with their ****** roster and rookie QB, it would be a failure and would prove your "point"?
(2) We're not the Jags, and no one is asking for Lombardi or any other top-3 all-time coach. What we're clamoring for is a coach who can find, develop, and maximize talent - and many of them do - then add MORE talent to the roster at an acceptable pace.
Coaches play a huge role in bringing talent to the roster. They have final say on game plans - if a team's weekly plan is ****** (like ours), they're expected to force changes or otherwise improve performance. Coaches implement things like specific drills, overall coaching philosophies, practice habits, etc. And you think none of that really matters? Building a roster.. developing game plans.. structuring team practices and meetings.. fostering habits and work ethic.. that's all just minor stuff?
That happens, and they do often fail. How did Switzer do after 1995? How about Jim Caldwell? Bill Callahan?
A team's immediate success is dependent more on players than the HC, yes. But over the course of eight years, when a team has the SAME problems every second of the way.. I mean, how do we not draw a connection there? The guy largely responsible for assembling the roster and structuring the game plans.. no connection there? Yeesh.
But to say they account for 5% is absurd. And to say that a coach CANNOT make his team one iota better than the quality of the players is silly.
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Will you quit crying if I admit I was wrong, you know, because I was? It will happen a lot more too. Better?
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How in god's name is this an appropriate analogy? Tomlin has been our coach for 8 ******* YEARS. If the team is devoid of talent, that is just as much his fault as it would be if it were stocked with talent and we were still losing.. what's the difference?
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