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Brice Young for just one genius. Every expert says next year's QB class is way better.

We know Pickett is not ultra athletic, we know Pickettt does not have a great arm . Funny most could see Baker Mayfield was not athletic, was not blessed with a great arm and was just a guy. It doesn't take a great deal of ability to see Pickett is a mediocre guy way over drafted as evidence by QB desperate teams passing over him. Exactly what traits do you think Pickett possesses to become a great QB. We have a better QB on the roster and now that Tolin has his guy you can damn sure bet he will play Pickett regardless if he is better than Trubisky. That is what happens when you pick a QB in the first round, he plays , especially an old , 24, rookie QB. If he is bad, do we draft a better QB in the 1st round next year and hurt the Pitt guys feelings, thought not.
Bryce Young probably will be number 1 overall. Good luck with the Steelers being able to jump up to that position in any given year.
 
I doubt Pickett would have been there the next round. I read an article about Carolina earlier and Carolina was looking at 3 options. One of those was taking a QB in rnd 1. They seemed to like Pickett so he would have been snatched up. Im sure other teams beside Carolina would have taken a hard look at Pickett if he was there in round 2. Value wise it is a tough call. On one hand there was not much left when we took Pickett, but on the other hand we still could have used some other positions. I would have probably taken a shot at willis at 84. He might have the most potential, but also one of the riskiest
 
Not sure on that. Jarvis Jones spinal injury had him off many draft boards and his horrible workout numbers had him drop like a stone on the rest. I wouldn’t doubt he wasn’t on any teams top 50 besides ours.
No, based on NFL playing time Jones was a better pick. I don’t think Reinstra, Ricketts and Richardson combined had as much playing time as Jones.
 
Bryce Young probably will be number 1 overall. Good luck with the Steelers being able to jump up to that position in any given year.
C J Stroud and others. Now you are moving the goalposts. We picked a mediocre QB and there are much better QBs next year in the draft but we are hamstringed with this stiff, that is the entire point
 
C J Stroud and others. Now you are moving the goalposts. We picked a mediocre QB and there are much better QBs next year in the draft but we are hamstringed with this stiff, that is the entire point
And the guarantee the Steelers will be in a position to draft any of the much better QBs next year?

If Pickett is as mediocre as you say, Trubisky will start and the Steelers will be in the same HYPOTHETICAL 2023 draft position as they were before they drafted Pickett.
 
And the guarantee the Steelers will be in a position to draft any of the much better QBs next year?

If Pickett is as mediocre as you say, Trubisky will start and the Steelers will be in the same HYPOTHETICAL 2023 draft position as they were before they drafted Pickett.
Exactly the point. We are stuck with Pickett who is a middling talent. There are better QB prospects throughout next year's draft and Trubisky is Pickett's superior physically, athletically and has put up better stats than most NFL. QBs. Tomlin panicked in his handling of the QB position as he has had Ben his entire tenure. He signed a failed player in Haskins, he stupidly overpaid Rudolph for 2 years, he signs Trubisky for 2 years at 14 million plus ,overdrafts an older Pickett who he cannot sit and groom behind Trubisky and then drafts a second QB. He is just throwing **** at the wall hoping something sticks. This is Tomlin post Ben, it won't be pretty.
 
No, based on NFL playing time Jones was a better pick. I don’t think Reinstra, Ricketts and Richardson combined had as much playing time as Jones.

Way off. Totally different coach. Totally different mind set. Tomlin plays his 1st rounders even if they suck balls. (see jarvis and bush especially) Back in the day, 1st rounders rarely started in the rookie years. Tomlin carries them in spite of options.
 
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Exactly the point. We are stuck with Pickett who is a middling talent. There are better QB prospects throughout next year's draft and Trubisky is Pickett's superior physically, athletically and has put up better stats than most NFL. QBs. Tomlin panicked in his handling of the QB position as he has had Ben his entire tenure. He signed a failed player in Haskins, he stupidly overpaid Rudolph for 2 years, he signs Trubisky for 2 years at 14 million plus ,overdrafts an older Pickett who he cannot sit and groom behind Trubisky and then drafts a second QB. He is just throwing **** at the wall hoping something sticks. This is Tomlin post Ben, it won't be pretty.
And if they drafted one of next year’s prospects it would still be throwing **** at the wall hoping something sticks.
 
How do we know the Steelers were offered a similar deal?
If it wasn’t offered they sure the hell should have been the ones picking up the phone to ask, a phone call isn’t that hard

You’re telling me the Chiefs wouldn’t take one pick higher for the exact same compensation??? No way…also no way in hell the Chiefs are worried about not trading with us because we are sooo much more competitive with them than the Pats.

Plain and simple, we should’ve had those picks if our dudes are doing their work. We also do have trade history with the Chiefs, so it’s not like they’re opposed to working with us.

Same old draft day story, we need new blood that isn’t so damn lazy on draft day
Adios KC, it’s been real
 
If it wasn’t offered they sure the hell should have been the ones picking up the phone to ask, a phone call isn’t that hard

You’re telling me the Chiefs wouldn’t take one pick higher for the exact same compensation??? No way…also no way in hell the Chiefs are worried about not trading with us because we are sooo much more competitive with them than the Pats.

Plain and simple, we should’ve had those picks if our dudes are doing their work. We also do have trade history with the Chiefs, so it’s not like they’re opposed to working with us.

Same old draft day story, we need new blood that isn’t so damn lazy on draft day
Adios KC, it’s been real


My hope is that new blood comes from outside the STEELERS organization.


Salute the nation
 
The first round of this draft couldn't have gone worse for the Steelers, each pick in front of them it was a damn it moment.

By the time #20 rolled around and they looked at who was left, Pickett seems like a logical choice. From what I have read he won't fail
from lack of effort. I honestly believe he has the best shot at succeeding of the group listed above.
 
Here's the problem as I see it about waiting for the "better" talent next year. The Steelers will be good enough this year to be at least a .500 team, which means
once again drafting at 20-24. Trading up 10-15 spots, gambling that they will be elite, will cost a lot of draft capital. Though these college QB's have another
year to prove themselves, I don't see next years class being another 2004, and if they do, will be a top 5 pick.
 
I wanted Ridder. I'm gonna trust they know what they are doing. They had as much data to Evaluate Pickett as you could have. If they are really wrong all connected with the decision should be gone.
 
Whatever dude Pickett is a god among QBs. Funny thing is he is not as athletic or skilled as Trubisky who has made the Pro Bowl and has pretty good numbers with an awful Bears team. No need to draft Pickett when he is nothing but a guy.
I asked a genuine question and never mentioned anything about Pickett. Who are all of these great QBs in next year's class? I want to know who to watch.
 
Brice Young for just one genius. Every expert says next year's QB class is way better.

We know Pickett is not ultra athletic, we know Pickettt does not have a great arm . Funny most could see Baker Mayfield was not athletic, was not blessed with a great arm and was just a guy. It doesn't take a great deal of ability to see Pickett is a mediocre guy way over drafted as evidence by QB desperate teams passing over him. Exactly what traits do you think Pickett possesses to become a great QB. We have a better QB on the roster and now that Tolin has his guy you can damn sure bet he will play Pickett regardless if he is better than Trubisky. That is what happens when you pick a QB in the first round, he plays , especially an old , 24, rookie QB. If he is bad, do we draft a better QB in the 1st round next year and hurt the Pitt guys feelings, thought not.
To be fair, both Brees and Brady came out of college with an arm rated worse than Pickett… both of them really developed the arm that got them to the hof around the age of 25. And Pickett is average in almost everything… many qbs come out with sub average grades in areas. Mayfield had below average height and threw into coverage too much…

Anyone trying to tie Pickett to mayfield in any way is just wrong… Pickett may fail at the nfl level, but it wont be for any of the reasons mayfield did in Cleveland…

Most rookie qbs are 23… 24 isn’t ideal but its not outrageous either… especially since he already has a firm base in nfl qb training

Remember playing qb in the pros is absolutely diffthan college. One of the biggest transitions is learning pro style reads and technique. Pickett is agead of the curve there… while that may mean he doesn’t have giant leaps to make that contain untapped potential like some of these guys, it also means he is more of a good bet to be able to play nfl style qb with less risk of him being a total bust
 
Pickett at #20, if we waited til #52 to draft a QB then we wouldn't have got Pickens in the 2nd, meaning we'd still be chasing and forced to draft a WR in the 3rd and we wouldn't have Demarvin Leal. So being that we drafted the best QB rdy in this draft, got a solid WR in the 2nd and solid DE in the 3rd, I think it actually played out perfectly for us.
 
I doubt Pickett would have been there the next round. I read an article about Carolina earlier and Carolina was looking at 3 options. One of those was taking a QB in rnd 1. They seemed to like Pickett so he would have been snatched up. Im sure other teams beside Carolina would have taken a hard look at Pickett if he was there in round 2. Value wise it is a tough call. On one hand there was not much left when we took Pickett, but on the other hand we still could have used some other positions. I would have probably taken a shot at willis at 84. He might have the most potential, but also one of the riskiest
Pickett would've been long gone by the time out pick came around in the 2nd
 
Not sure how you are saying Trubisky is superiorly more athletic than Pickett. They ran the same 40 time and Pickett's vertical was 6" more than Trubisky at 33" which is good. Picket is Taller and about 5 pounds lighter. Not sure how arm strength compares, there is no stats listed for Pickett.
 
C J Stroud and others. Now you are moving the goalposts. We picked a mediocre QB and there are much better QBs next year in the draft but we are hamstringed with this stiff, that is the entire point
How is a QB that never played a snap in the NFL a stiff? Premature much?

BTW there is no hamstrings to rookie QBs. If you don't care for them bring in another the following year. Happened with Rosen right?
 
Exactly the point. We are stuck with Pickett who is a middling talent. There are better QB prospects throughout next year's draft and Trubisky is Pickett's superior physically, athletically and has put up better stats than most NFL. QBs.
Not sure where you're coming up with this statement. I liked the Trubisky signing; I was good with him starting for the Steelers for a couple of years. But he isn't superior to Pickett physically and athletically.

40 yard dash:
MT 4.67
KP 4.73

Vertical:
MT 27.5"
KP 33.5"

Broad jump:
MT 9'8"
KP 10'1"

5-10-5 shuttle:
MT 4.25
KP 4.29

Keep in mind that Trubisky's numbers are from 5 years ago, when he was 22. He'll be 28 before the season starts. Pickett has a clear edge in several categories; it's very close in others. Pickett has smaller hands (obviously) and shorter arms, but is more than an inch taller.

So what are you talking about?
 
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