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Wolf44 said:
Ok the experts say there will be six QBs take on the first round next year. They all agreed this was a poor QB class. Yet you want to keep holding onto the thinking there are mystery QBs that are going to be better than Pickett. There are already better prospects than Pocket projected to go in the 1st round next year.

As for getting Stroud or Young. Do you really believe even if they could make a trade at a reasonable price that stubborn Tomlin would admit a mistake,LMFAO. We are stuck with Pickett for the next 4 years regardless of any opportunity to get a better QB in the draft.
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These are the same experts that propelled Malik Willis into the first round when, in reality, the NFL had no interest. Also, there isn't a reasonable price when trading into the top 5, even if you're in the middle of the pack.

I just don't understand why it's so hard for you to come up with any names. I personally would've waited until next year as well because there is excellent arm talent coming up. It's more in the mold with what I want to see at QB because Ben Roethlisberger spoiled me for nearly 20 years.

Stroud and Young will be out of reach, but there are some interesting (and potentially better) options.

Tyler Van Dyke is my favorite to have a breakout season and shoot up draft boards. He would've been my early favorite for the Steelers if he continued to develop.

Will Levis is interesting as he has a big arm and is physically closer to a Ben Roethlisberger or Josh Allen, just a little shorter. His TD:INT ratio needs improvement.

Jake Haener is on a lot of top QB lists. He's improved his numbers over the past two years and has a chance to explode up the draft board next year. He's said to have an elite arm. Seems to be in the same size mold as Matt Corral.

Anthony Richardson is in a lot of top 4 lists and he has barely played and isn't very accurate with his passes.

Phil Jurkovec is another name, but beyond his deep ball, I don't think he's very impressive in terms of being first-round talent.

Spencer Rattler got beat out by a freshman at Oklahoma and transferred to South Carolina. That is considering he was in a very QB friendly offense. He also seems a bit too cocky in a bad way.

Hendon Hooker has prototypical size and completed 68.2% of his passes with 31 TDs and 3 INTs. He'll be an old prospect and despite his numbers, I cannot forget how many open receivers he missed against Pitt.
 
I would have preferred NONE of those options at any of those picks. Although I will be completely happy to eat crow, I don't like any of those QB prospects, particularly given that we have Mitch and I believe he can hold down the fort for 1-2 years (and potentially more). I would have traded back out of our 1st (if possible) as the players I really liked at that spot were gone. I would NOT have changed the Pickens pick at all. I think that was tremendous value in the 2nd.
 
I heard an expert predict DJ U from Clemson as a top 5 pick QB next year…I predict he may not even be the starter for Clemson by the end of the year

Maybe this is one of the 6 QBs Wolf’s experts are predicting…predicting a year out is even harder than the current draft which is a total crap shoot as it is.

I’m not even sold on KP love the guy, question how the skill set may translate. That being said I’d ride with KP over DJU 8 days a week and twice on Sundays.

So maybe KP is better than a top 5 pick
In next year’s allegedly QB rich class. Only time will tell.
 
Fiji Mariner said:
I heard an expert predict DJ U from Clemson as a top 5 pick QB next year…I predict he may not even be the starter for Clemson by the end of the year

Maybe this is one of the 6 QBs Wolf’s experts are predicting…predicting a year out is even harder than the current draft which is a total crap shoot as it is.

I’m not even sold on KP love the guy, question how the skill set may translate. That being said I’d ride with KP over DJU 8 days a week and twice on Sundays.

So maybe KP is better than a top 5 pick
In next year’s allegedly QB rich class. Only time will tell.
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I think Pickett can be very good but he'll have to do a couple of things. First, he needs to settle in the pocket and not run himself into pressure. Far too often leaves a clean pocket. Second, he'll need to win as more of a cerebral QB because he does not have the same physical abilities of guys like Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, etc. He always works on his craft in terms of improving his mechanics, we'll just need him to do the same with the playbook.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
I think Pickett can be very good but he'll have to do a couple of things. First, he needs to settle in the pocket and not run himself into pressure. Far too often leaves a clean pocket. Second, he'll need to win as more of a cerebral QB because he does not have the same physical abilities of guys like Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, etc. He always works on his craft in terms of improving his mechanics, we'll just need him to do the same with the playbook.
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The Steelers always have the unorthodox player who doesn’t fit the trend. He’ll do fine
 
You are right Pickett is the QB God that all other draftees will be compared to. Again every expert said this was a mediocre QB class and only one QB was picked before round 3. Next year much better prospects are out there but please hang your hat on Pickett, he is just a guy.
 
diver said:
Maybe.

Look, my point is we just don't know one way or the other with Pickett. IO don't know if he'll be special or not. I just object to anyone who states with absolute certainty he'll be average. I would have the same issue if someone said he'll be great. We just don't know.

But also, there have been some "franchise" guys who haven't won all that much. It is no guarantee. It surely helps, no doubt. What's the definition? Ben was called franchise but only won 2 in 18 years. That isn't a shot at Ben, but more trying to define franchise. Manning 2 in 18 or so. Marino, none. Is this definition something we should get worked up about? And if Pickett isn't considered that, it is that big of a deal?
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I agree... I'm a fan of Pickett just not a fan of Pickett at pick 20... My thoughts are run with Mitch Mason and Pickett... Don't force the issue with the rookie, no need to. IMO a franchise guy is a QB you can rely on every week, is smart with the ball and leads. Football is a team sport and a QB alone is not winning anything.
 
BamaSteeler52 said:
I agree... I'm a fan of Pickett just not a fan of Pickett at pick 20... My thoughts are run with Mitch Mason and Pickett... Don't force the issue with the rookie, no need to. IMO a franchise guy is a QB you can rely on every week, is smart with the ball and leads. Football is a team sport and a QB alone is not winning anything.
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If things are equal or slightly favor Mitch he should start. At least out of the gates. See if that great QB coaching in Buffalo payed off....
 
Wolf44 said:
You are right Pickett is the QB God that all other draftees will be compared to. Again every expert said this was a mediocre QB class and only one QB was picked before round 3. Next year much better prospects are out there but please hang your hat on Pickett, he is just a guy.
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You seem to have difficulty answering simple questions directly, but I'll try again with another one:

All of your "experts" had Willis going fairly early in the draft; in fact, by the time he was chosen, there was about a 1% chance of him still being on the board at that point. Again, these are the same "experts" who predicted in May of 2021 that Howell and Rattler would be top 5 overall picks this year. So, what gives you any confidence at all in these people accurately predicting the strength of next year's quarterback class?
 
Fiji Mariner said:
If it wasn’t offered they sure the hell should have been the ones picking up the phone to ask, a phone call isn’t that hard

You’re telling me the Chiefs wouldn’t take one pick higher for the exact same compensation??? No way…also no way in hell the Chiefs are worried about not trading with us because we are sooo much more competitive with them than the Pats.

Plain and simple, we should’ve had those picks if our dudes are doing their work. We also do have trade history with the Chiefs, so it’s not like they’re opposed to working with us.

Same old draft day story, we need new blood that isn’t so damn lazy on draft day
Adios KC, it’s been real
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If you have read anything that Colbert has said post-draft...he has said Pickett was the guy they wanted. They were shocked he was there at 20. Texans have stated they had a trade in place with the Steelers but that they(texans) backed out. So Tombert was most likely wanting to move up to get Pickett. There was exactly zero chance the Steelers were moving back from 20 when Pickett was there for them to draft.
 
FordFairLane said:
How pissed will this board be if Rudolph beats out both and then leaves because we can’t resign him.
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I am thinking Mason won't be around by the first game of the season. I am thinking they took a QB in round 7 for a reason.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
I think Pickett can be very good but he'll have to do a couple of things. First, he needs to settle in the pocket and not run himself into pressure. Far too often leaves a clean pocket.
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Absolutely agree. Watched replays of couple of Pickett's games and he has nervous feet and tends to leave a clean pocket too early. That is likely due to him being hammered behind horrible Panther offensive lines in 2019 and 2020.
 
FordFairLane said:
How pissed will this board be if Rudolph beats out both and then leaves because we can’t resign him.
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Wouldn't blame him as he has been shown no respect of any kind here by the team.


Salute the nation
 
slashsteel said:
If things are equal or slightly favor Mitch he should start. At least out of the gates. See if that great QB coaching in Buffalo payed off....
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What about our great QB coaching ? Can we elevate our QBs ?




Salute the nation
 
I honestly think it will be an interesting battle. I feel if Rudolph doesn’t win he likely is traded/released and that’s why they drafted 2 Qbs. Let one sit on the PS. But if Rudolph wins and if he wins imo he’ll have to be head and shoulders better than the rest. That will throw a huge monkey wrench in the works. Because they can’t release Trubisky or Pickett. So then we go into the season with Rudolph at one, likely Mitch at two, and Pickett at three. Then they have to tag Rudolph if he does well. And if he does well again they are kinda stuck trading Kenny. Likely for a way later draft pick. Or just having him be a backup.
If Trubisky wins kenny will be two and I feel Rudolph is traded for a late round pick. Jackrabbit guy sits on ps unless an injury happens. Then we have another battle next year again.
If Kenny wins Rudolph again is traded, Mitch is backup, then released in 2023, and jackrabbit guy gets to fight out backup spot with 4th-7th round pick.
 
With the signings of Daniels and Cole what makes anyone think that Linderbaum was an option?
 
SteelerFan448 said:
I think Pickett can be very good but he'll have to do a couple of things. First, he needs to settle in the pocket and not run himself into pressure. Far too often leaves a clean pocket. Second, he'll need to win as more of a cerebral QB because he does not have the same physical abilities of guys like Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, etc. He always works on his craft in terms of improving his mechanics, we'll just need him to do the same with the playbook.
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This will be perfect because we don't have clean pockets
 
FordFairLane said:
I honestly think it will be an interesting battle. I feel if Rudolph doesn’t win he likely is traded/released and that’s why they drafted 2 Qbs. Let one sit on the PS. But if Rudolph wins and if he wins imo he’ll have to be head and shoulders better than the rest. That will throw a huge monkey wrench in the works. Because they can’t release Trubisky or Pickett. So then we go into the season with Rudolph at one, likely Mitch at two, and Pickett at three. Then they have to tag Rudolph if he does well. And if he does well again they are kinda stuck trading Kenny. Likely for a way later draft pick. Or just having him be a backup.
If Trubisky wins kenny will be two and I feel Rudolph is traded for a late round pick. Jackrabbit guy sits on ps unless an injury happens. Then we have another battle next year again.
If Kenny wins Rudolph again is traded, Mitch is backup, then released in 2023, and jackrabbit guy gets to fight out backup spot with 4th-7th round pick.
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Again, the Steelers won't have to worry about that happening at all. I wish they did, but Rudolph just has shown no signs of blowing up and becoming THE guy.
Troglodyte said:
With the signings of Daniels and Cole what makes anyone think that Linderbaum was an option?
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Not to mention you don't know internally how they feel about Kendrick Green. I don't think he has it to play center, but hope I'm wrong.
 
FordFairLane said:
I honestly think it will be an interesting battle. I feel if Rudolph doesn’t win he likely is traded/released and that’s why they drafted 2 Qbs. Let one sit on the PS. But if Rudolph wins and if he wins imo he’ll have to be head and shoulders better than the rest. That will throw a huge monkey wrench in the works. Because they can’t release Trubisky or Pickett. So then we go into the season with Rudolph at one, likely Mitch at two, and Pickett at three. Then they have to tag Rudolph if he does well. And if he does well again they are kinda stuck trading Kenny. Likely for a way later draft pick. Or just having him be a backup.
If Trubisky wins kenny will be two and I feel Rudolph is traded for a late round pick. Jackrabbit guy sits on ps unless an injury happens. Then we have another battle next year again.
If Kenny wins Rudolph again is traded, Mitch is backup, then released in 2023, and jackrabbit guy gets to fight out backup spot with 4th-7th round pick.
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I see no scenario where the Jack Rabbit is better than Mason... People complain about Mason but think a bad QB taken in the 7th round is somehow better. My thoughts on Mason is a career #2 that can help the team win some games when needed... Mitch strikes me as a #1... Pickett has done nothing in the NFL so judgment on him can't happen yet.
 
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